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Should large reactive dogs be muzzled?

34 replies

Slub · 30/10/2021 18:42

I'm talking in places like dog friendly pubs? Reactive to both dogs and people.

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MrsTerryPratchett · 30/10/2021 18:44

I wouldn't take a reactive dog into a pub. Surely it's cruel to the dog. Isn't it? My nervous dog wouldn't be having a nice time.

SuperLoudPoppingAction · 30/10/2021 18:44

Reactive like bitey or reactive like warning growls?

I probably would muzzle but my dog came pre-muzzle-trained

Wolfiefan · 30/10/2021 18:45

I agree. I wouldn’t take a reactive dog into a place like that. Stressful for everyone involved.

Slub · 30/10/2021 18:49

Reactive like lunging and aggressive barking and whining constantly and licking its lips.

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MrsTerryPratchett · 30/10/2021 18:59

Yeah, no pubs in that case.

Wolfiefan · 30/10/2021 19:00

You can’t honestly think that a dog lunging at people in a pub would be ok if it was muzzled! Or is this a reverse.

FreshFreesias · 30/10/2021 19:02

I’ve never seen this. All the dogs I see out and about are friendly.
Where is this savage creature that you speak of Op?

MrsTerryPratchett · 30/10/2021 19:04

@FreshFreesias

I’ve never seen this. All the dogs I see out and about are friendly. Where is this savage creature that you speak of Op?
I was in the pub about three weeks ago with a reactive small dog. PITA for the waiting staff who were barked at every time they walked past. And the owner did nothing. Bloody lingered if anything!
Slub · 30/10/2021 19:16

@FreshFreesias

I’ve never seen this. All the dogs I see out and about are friendly. Where is this savage creature that you speak of Op?
Yorkshire It's a very large GSD and the owners come into the pub and think it's behaviour is OK "because it's reactive " Owners of nicely behaved dogs usually leave and dog less customers give a wide berth or leave.
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ThatNameAgainItsMrPlow · 30/10/2021 19:20

Yes, —vicious— “reactive” dogs should be muzzled. Why do you even need to ask?

WithANameLikeDaniCalifornia · 30/10/2021 19:25

OP, you should consider finding a pub that doesn’t let animals in it. I’d never go in a dog-friendly place because dog owners can get all pissy if you object to their dog jumping on/mauling you and growling at you. I just want to relax and can’t be bothered with these fuckwits.

Slub · 30/10/2021 19:26

@ThatNameAgainItsMrPlow

Yes, —vicious— “reactive” dogs should be muzzled. Why do you even need to ask?
Because the owners of said dog don't think it does 🤷‍♀️ So I thought I'd ask for the opinions of other precious fur baby dog owners.
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Slub · 30/10/2021 19:29

@WithANameLikeDaniCalifornia I'm not being chased out of my much loved local by a fucking badly behaved human (and their equally badly behaved dog)

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familychallenge · 30/10/2021 19:29

I'd say the dog shouldn't be in the pub, muzzled or not- it's clearly unhappy and stressed and in an environment to creat that. Leave him at home - everyone would be happier!

familychallenge · 30/10/2021 19:32

And I think the landlord should speak to the owners- dog friendly pub or not, it isn't ok to have a dog that upsets most of your customers there. I take my dog to the pub, usually after walks, and he's happy there- not woofy or aggressive at all, usually just sits under table or on a blanket. If he was being a nuisance I'd take him away because he would be unhappy and so would I.

Wolfiefan · 30/10/2021 19:32

The owners are being arseholes.
Publicans should ask arseholes to leave.
If they won’t I would leave. Dogs can get muzzles off.

santabetterwashhishands · 30/10/2021 19:33

My large dog is reactive to other animals but ok with people,he's not muzzled but he's walked in the early hours of the morning and late at night so there's less animals around for him to react at 🤷‍♀️.
He wouldn't enjoy socialising in a dog friendly pub he would be stressed and everyone around him would be on edge so he stays home happily (it's common sense but apparently lots of people don't have that they thing their entitlements troop everyone else's)!
My lovely bellend of a neighbour has had the RSPCA out to me twice as I don't walk my aggressive dog apparently 🤷‍♀️ ( I do but he's asleep like most people at those hours).
The RSPCA man applauded me and said he's gorgeous well kept and it's sensible to avoid other animals Andorran people should do as I do.

SirSniffsAlot · 30/10/2021 19:37

The dog is reacting because it's afraid.

It shouldn't (need to) be muzzled because it should't be repeatedly taken into a situation where it is unhappy like that. It's not fair on that dog or the other dogs/people present.

icedcoffees · 30/10/2021 19:41

The dog shouldn't be in the pub in the first place - it's reacting because it's terrified and is being restricted and held in place by a lead.

The owner/manager of the pub should ask the dogs' owners to leave. It's not an appropriate place for a reactive dog to be.

AlCalavicci · 30/10/2021 19:44

Reactive dogs should not be in pubs at all , it's not fair tho have it muzzled , esp if it's not use to wearing one.

I wonder if the landlord is afraid of the dog and / or owner , that would be the only explanation as to why he hadn't booted them out.

I always took my dog with me to our local, ( non food selling) pub he would have a sniff of anyone that came to my table but other than that he hardly moved unless there were crisp or nits on offer Grin

MrsTerryPratchett · 30/10/2021 21:39

@santabetterwashhishands

My large dog is reactive to other animals but ok with people,he's not muzzled but he's walked in the early hours of the morning and late at night so there's less animals around for him to react at 🤷‍♀️. He wouldn't enjoy socialising in a dog friendly pub he would be stressed and everyone around him would be on edge so he stays home happily (it's common sense but apparently lots of people don't have that they thing their entitlements troop everyone else's)! My lovely bellend of a neighbour has had the RSPCA out to me twice as I don't walk my aggressive dog apparently 🤷‍♀️ ( I do but he's asleep like most people at those hours). The RSPCA man applauded me and said he's gorgeous well kept and it's sensible to avoid other animals Andorran people should do as I do.
You sound like my lovely neighbour. Massive, reactive bully breed. She walks him at 5am, crosses roads to avoid people. Signs and fences and gates on her home. DD was scared of the dog but I told her he's so so lucky to have found a forever home with a woman who loves him despite his issues and that she keeps him, and us, safe.

Lucky dogs.

senorafridgidaire · 31/10/2021 11:26

We have a (dog) reactive dog. The only pubs we go in are ones where we know the layout, tables are spaced far apart and we can keep out of everyone's way, and there is more than one way in or out. We never stay for more than an hour. It's like being in the SAS sometimes! If we walk in and its busy, or there are other dogs that look like they want to be friendly / may approach then we leave immediately. I do expect other owners to be respectful and keep their dogs away from us as far as possible, but I fully recognise that Ddogs issues are our problem to manage, and we never want to put her in a situation where she feels uncomfortable and might react anyway. She's happy enough in a quiet pub with other dogs minding their own business at other tables, but can't cope with any more than that.

We've only ever had 2 'incidents', one in a pub garden where we were sat in a corner close to the exit and there was a sign saying dogs must be on leads and someone came in with an off lead spaniel that came bounding over, and once in a pub which was totally empty, until a couple arrived with a labrador and for some stupid reason decided to sit right next to us even though we explained the situation and asked them not to, they wouldn't even wait a few minutes for us to move to a different table because they wanted to sit down at the specific one next to us so badly. Their dog was off lead and approached ddog who was backed into a corner under the table, up until that point she'd been happily enjoying her chew by our feet.

So in short, I think the owner obviously has a responsibility to keep their dog under control and try to avoid situations where the dog will react, but as a reactive dog owner, which is hard and fucking soul destroying sometimes, its always hugely appreciated when other people recognise the situation and do their best not to let their dogs approach and make it worse. Sometimes in a tricky situation all you need is a minute or two to gather up your dog and skedaddle, but lot of people don't even give you that.

VeganCheesePlease · 31/10/2021 18:56

Who would take a dog like that into a pub? It would be absolute hell for them!

Sitdowncupoftea · 01/11/2021 11:50

All reactive dogs should be muzzled regardless of size. Any responsible owner does this. I muzzle my large breed in situations as I cant trust "people" around him. I have to shout at people not to touch him , he is perfectly fine but won't tolerate strangers touching him. I dont know why some people feel it necessary to walk up to a strange dog and touch them without asking therefore I muzzle him where people are. It's not that I don't trust my dog I don't trust idiot people. However what pisses me off is people with small dogs that think its acceptable for their dog to to be aggressive because they are small. All dogs no matter what size or breed if they are reactive should wear a muzzle.

Welshiefluff · 01/11/2021 11:51

I think all dogs of certain breeds and sizes should be muzzled in public.

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