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Border terriers

78 replies

Pumpkin5piced · 30/09/2021 21:16

Tell me everything please..

Can they ever be off lead? For reference I live in a busy city so will see lots of dogs on walks and in parks

How are they with other dogs? Children? (I hear good with children, not so much dogs)

Do they bark excessively?

Are they clingy? Can they be left at home?

I was looking at companion type breeds so I guess a terrier will be less clingy and prone to SA than them

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KittyMcKitty · 01/10/2021 20:56

They are amazing clever little dogs. Ours is the friendliest dog ever and v submissive with other dogs - and scared of our cat (but will chase other cats). We live rurally and she will walk forever and tbh needs a good walk every day or she gets bored.

She does bark if people come to the door. I wouldn’t have her off the lead around sheep (although she ignores the ones in the field behind the garden). She has great recall apart from when she doesn’t feel like coming back 😂. She also catches mice in the garden sometimes.

They’re very loyal and great fun - she thinks she’s a lap dog! And in general she’s just a really happy fun little dog with a massively positive attitude. There’s generally someone working from home but she’s fine to be left but I think she would be lonely if left all day every day.

KittyMcKitty · 01/10/2021 21:00

Just seen other posts about swimming- she thinks it’s a very suspect activity - even crossing a little stream she has to balance on stones in a very precarious fashion but give her a big mass of deep mud and she will lay down in it if she’s hot!

Learntoloveyourself · 01/10/2021 21:05

Mine is 14. They are great dogs. Fab with babies, kids and people. Has never once growled at a human. Unpredictable with other dogs but you get plenty of warning if he feels uncomfortable. Was great off the lead but did want to chase cats, squirrels and sheep and recall was non existent in the early years.

Nowadays he’s slowed down a fair bit and sleeps a lot but still loves his walks in the countryside.

My heart will break when he is no longer with us.

Pumpkin5piced · 01/10/2021 21:09

@Powertothepetal see, what you’ve said is what worries me.
Walking away from other dogs would be near enough impossible. I live in London so most walks would be in big London parks, which are full of dogs. Either that or smaller local parks, and pavement walks. Both as likely to see other dogs.

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Justfivemoreminutesplease · 01/10/2021 21:18

My “old lady”. Nearly 16 and the best thing ever. Now a bit deaf, a bit blind, a bit incontinent and gets into a habit of staring at walls.
Not really a barker. Also hates black labs - when she was longer, she would seemingly spot them a mile off and that was about the only time she barked.
Still goes on daily walks, but now more of an amble.

Border terriers
Justfivemoreminutesplease · 01/10/2021 21:18

Younger not longer Hmm!!

grannycake · 02/10/2021 07:20

@Pumpkin5piced There is a chance any dog you have could be reactive - and that also will vary in it's intensity. I don't think borders are more likely to be reactive than any other breed

Darkchocolateandcoffee · 02/10/2021 07:26

@HundredMilesAnHour

My neighbour got a Border terrier puppy during lockdown (cliche I know). We live in a gated development in central London. Puppy went everywhere with my neighbour. All the neighbours love him. He was very well socialised as a result from an early age. Still very friendly and affectionate with everyone. He's an adult now. Never heard him bark even once nor have I ever seen him on a lead. He trots along next to his owner through busy streets (and it's very busy where we live), sits by the football pitch in the park while my neighbour is playing, sits happily in his car etc. It really is a classic story of man and his best friend. Quite lovely to see actually.
Ahhh!
userxx · 02/10/2021 08:08

@Justfivemoreminutesplease Awwwwww, bless her 😍. She's a fantastic age!!

OverByYer · 02/10/2021 09:43

My border only became reactive before she was attacked. Before that she was super friendly to other dogs. In terms of being reactive she doesn’t bite she will growl or when we walk in our estate bark as she thinks she owns the place

userxx · 02/10/2021 10:00

Quite a few borders on here reactive after attacks, same with mine. Such a shame when they were fine before.

Tanfastic · 02/10/2021 19:24

I've got a four month old Border Terrier and he's a whirlwind of mischievous energy! Totally different to our Lhasa Apso we had previously, a lot harder as a puppy without a doubt. He hardly ever stops and is into everything.has been relatively easy to train so far but we've not started on recall just yet. Probably won't risk him being off the lead round where we live anyway. He's also a massive chewer and very nippy. He's been brilliant at night though. I can't see that we will be able to leave him in a room by himself without being in a crate any time soon tbh as he wouldn't be trusted. He's crate trained though so we pop him in there for now. I really hope we will be able to at some point though!

I assume Borders become a bit more chilled as they develop?!

He's a happy friendly little chap though but not quite the lap dog we had before.

InTropicalTrumpsLand · 02/10/2021 19:51

I'd look for a breeder with show lines, then. Won't eliminate the chance of a reactive puppy, but parents who are able to stay still among dozens of dogs in a dog show could pass this trait to their offspring. Also, be honest to breeder about your circunstances, and they will be able to indicate a more laid down puppy for you.

And of course, socialise from the start!

Catsrus · 03/10/2021 08:49

@InTropicalTrumpsLand

I'd look for a breeder with show lines, then. Won't eliminate the chance of a reactive puppy, but parents who are able to stay still among dozens of dogs in a dog show could pass this trait to their offspring. Also, be honest to breeder about your circunstances, and they will be able to indicate a more laid down puppy for you.

And of course, socialise from the start!

I would actually question this - I used to show my dogs and have had both show and working lines in my breeds (gundogs not terriers). The working line breeders would put a steady temperament above looks, the show people are more likely to breed from a nice looking dog anyway. Working dogs have to be able to jump in the back of a car, mix with strange dogs and people, and not bat an eyelid.

A lot of gundog people also have terriers, when I meet that combo on a walk my experience is friendly dogs. If I were going for a border (one day!) I would contact working breeders.

userxx · 03/10/2021 09:32

I assume Borders become a bit more chilled as they develop?!

Yep, by the age of 10 they'll be chilled 😏

PieonaBarm · 03/10/2021 10:15

@userxx 😂😂

Mine calmed down slightly at 5, he's 12 now and just about chilled. Although he had a hard day yesterday and had to be reminded of his place in the household, (nothing bad, he doesn't sleep on our bed only in the kitchen, but had been barking for us to come downstairs in the night) so no sofa snoozes for him. Eventually gave up trying at 9.30pm and took himself off to his bed in the kitchen 😂 silent all night 😂😂😂

He's bonkers, wouldn't change him for the world!!!

Powertothepetal · 03/10/2021 11:44

I would actually question this - I used to show my dogs and have had both show and working lines in my breeds (gundogs not terriers). The working line breeders would put a steady temperament above looks, the show people are more likely to breed from a nice looking dog anyway. Working dogs have to be able to jump in the back of a car, mix with strange dogs and people, and not bat an eyelid
I’m not so sure.

I definitely agree that a show breeders goal is the next champion so temperament is often not a priority and dogs with excellent confirmation (but not so solid temperament) may be bred when they really shouldn’t be.

I have a working bred dog myself and I wouldn’t buy the show bred version of her breed.

But a working gundog and a working terrier are two entirely different beasts.

Gun dogs do indeed have to work with other dogs and large amounts of strange people.
They also work actively with people, awaiting instruction from their handler to go and retrieve the game.

But working terriers (as I understand it) work mostly alone both as in working with one terrier and not a group and working independently with little, if any, instruction from their owner.
Their job is to find rats, rabbits, foxes etc and go and kill them.
Working terriers should have a sky high prey drive, they often are very stubborn and not very handler focused and a large proportion of them are very dog aggressive and won’t back down in a fight, literally fighting ‘to the death’.

Many terrier breeds have been ‘watered down’ over the years, the Patterdale/Fell terrier is one of the only ones left that is almost exclusively bred for working and in pet homes people often seriously struggle with them.

While I am generally opposed to the breeding of ‘show dogs’, the idea of breeding to a specific ‘look’ and watering down a breeds instincts and traits, I do feel that working terriers are one group of dogs that really are best placed in a working home.

Tanfastic · 03/10/2021 14:54

Oh Christ what have I let myself in for 😂😂😂. I'll have to grow a pair of eyes in my arse then 😂.

Dozycuntlaters · 05/10/2021 16:48

I have a 14 month old, and she is brilliant. She walks off lead, and although she likes to explore she always checks I am still about, although she is partial to squirrels and will run if she sees one. She is brilliant with other dogs, never seen an aggressive side of her, she loves every person and every dog. If we're walking and I see a big group of dogs it's easy enough to pop her back on the lead and if I see horses I will change direction and she'll follow me, so not a problem there either. I have 2 cats, she was a pain at first but just barking, nothing more and it's mostly ok now although she just wants to play and they are not interested in her at all.

I'm lucky in that she comes to work with me but on the occasions she is left at home she is fine, normally just sits on the window sill waiting for me to come home. She's a confident feisty stubborn little thing and is definitely the best thing I ever did. I can't imagine ever being without a border now, they really are fantastic little dogs.

janex1 · 05/10/2021 17:04

We have a 12' year old female border terrier. She is friendly robust, loves all dogs and people but will stand up for herself when necessary. She is very loyal. Important to train consistently as a puppy but once trained is a great dog Barks at the front door and squirrels

Pumpkin5piced · 05/10/2021 19:08

So I’m speaking to a couple of breeders now…

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Pumpkin5piced · 05/10/2021 19:08

You’ve all convinced me

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speakupattheback · 05/10/2021 19:18

There is a sad shortage of photos of the glorious BT on this thread.

Wolfiefan · 05/10/2021 19:41

@Pumpkin5piced be careful. Go via the breed club. Check how many dogs they keep and how many litters each one has. Expect to be grilled and maybe homechecked. If anything doesn’t seem right then walk away.

grannycake · 05/10/2021 20:13

Here's mine on holiday in Scotland

Border terriers