Struggling with housetraining

[Powertothepetal]

I know the advice is to take out on waking, eating, after play and every 30 minutes but my pup (9 weeks) only wants to play when taken out…

I take him out and he has a great old time running round in the garden but does not want to toilet there.
Eventually, which can be 30 minutes plus, he will toilet but frankly I don’t really have time to stand outside for what would literally be pretty much all day bar nap and feed time for him to wee and poo!

He has impressive bowel control and can hold it for a frighteningly long time!

I have another dog and he often watches her going to the toilet but doesn’t want to follow her lead and if it’s cold or raining he actually whines and jumps up desperately to go back inside!

I have tried taking him out on a lead but first he hates any form of pressure and panics and tries to back out and second when he realises he can’t go and run off he just sits and whines or jumps up whining to go back inside.

Help! 😭

You really just need to persist. Yes, it's boring and time-consuming, but that's part of toilet training unfortunately - there's no way around it.

Personally I would persist with the lead so he can't run about and play - and when she does get it, add a command word (something like "wee wee" or "go toilet"), and give him TONS of praise and some high value treats that she only gets if he goes in the right place.

He'll get it eventually but it is just a case of persisting, really. There's no magic solution - it is time consuming and dull, unfortunately!

We have been going through toilet training a pup recently, we only stayed outside a maximum of 10 minutes at a time, if no wee or poo we would go back in for 10 minutes of calm time, then back out for another try. We also found our puppy was able to hold bladder and bowels far longer than we were anticipating, so going out after each meal, sleep, play, every 30 mins etc, was just too frequent. We went out about every hour or so to start.

Ahhh puppies :D

Your best bet is honestly to persist with the lead. Take him out for 10 mins max and then go back inside if he won't do anything. Ignore any whining or protests. ;)

Meanwhile, you can try to get him more comfortable with the lead indoors. Using it, treating him for any kind of calm behaviour, etc. Especially since he'll be old enough to walk on public ground soon enough and you'll need to make sure he can be walked on lead without backing out of his harness / collar :)

When mine was little sometimes he wouldn’t go outside but would as soon as he got back in the house. Top tip I got was to carry or hold him on my lap for the 10 mins or so I was inside before going back out to try again. Helped prevent some of the indoor accidents

IMO 9 weeks is too young to have any expectations of toilet training. I’d just keep him confined to the kitchen and use puppy pads or newspaper for any accidents. When he’s peed and poo’d he can come into the rest of the house for a short time.
From 12 weeks we did half an hour out every three hours, including after meals and on waking (6h). He was clean at 4 months and completely dry at 5. Plenty of accidents along the way!

It’s true that they don’t pee if you carry them!
We live in an apartment and it’s what I did for the wake-up pee after I missed a puddle on the communal staircase. My neighbour was not happy…

The 10 minutes in, 10 minutes out plan is good advice. I wouldn’t use puppy pads, as then you will have to teach him to unlearn that it’s acceptable to go indoors.

Re the lead and resisting pressure. Have a look on Kikopup’s YouTube channel. She’s recently done some videos about getting pups to make positive associations with lead pressure that might help.

... and don't forget to have little treats ready for when he eventually does the business in the garden!
A good boy toilet/ wee/ poo whatever followed by a treat will teach him to go on comand.