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On lead dog

26 replies

ItsOnlyADog · 25/08/2021 04:19

Please can someone explain why they keep their dog on a lead and then go to great lengths to tell me that their dog is friendly and is miffed because my (trained) dog has walked straight past their dog - as he has been trained to do. I give up!

My dog loves a run around with other friendly, off lead dogs. He knows not to interact with an on lead dog so doesn’t. How the fuck do I, or my dog, know which on lead dog is friendly or likely to incur a hefty vet fee? 🤷🏻‍♀️

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Ylvamoon · 25/08/2021 06:50

Simple answer, you don't.

On the other hand, dogs can be on a lead for a multitude of reasons from poor recall, having allergies to simply eating any crap thy find.

Arabelladrinkstea · 25/08/2021 06:58

Are they really miffed or do you just perceive this?

Never in all my years of dog walking has someone ever been ‘miffed’ at me because my dog has ignored there dog! Hmm

LublinToDublin · 25/08/2021 07:05

How many on-lead dog owners have "gone to great lengths" to tell you they are miffed?

In my experience on-lead dog owners are rare and want other dogs at a distance. I'm very surprised this situation could occur enough to exasperate you Confused

SherryPalmer · 25/08/2021 07:10

How the fuck do I, or my dog, know which on lead dog is friendly

then go to great lengths to tell me that their dog is friendly

Haven’t you answered your own question here?

Saucery · 25/08/2021 07:11

I think you’ve met an odd ‘someone’.
I like owners like you - my puppy needs to learn that not every dog wants to play with her and it helps enormously to have a calm, well-trained dog to walk past and ignore her.
I also like the owners who stop to ask if their dog can say hello, they can see I’m doing a Sit Watch Me for a reason.
The aim is that one day my dog will be the calm one walking past excitable puppies unless given a clear signal to stop and say Hello Grin

GreenTortoise · 25/08/2021 07:28

Someone is miffed your trained dog has walked past them? Hmm I doubt it.

Not every lead dog is not friendly.

My sister has her dog on a lead, she eats anything she can find and my sister being 7 months pregnant can't just run over to her to see what it is she has eaten. She's a very friendly dog. Probably the friendliest dog I've ever came across. Definitely wouldn't be miffed or care that your dog walked past.

TerrierOrTerror · 25/08/2021 07:52

I'm the owner of an "on lead dog"

She has zero reliable recall, though she is improving on a long line so we have hope it will happen one day. She also loves other dogs far too much and would run up to any, regardless of their body language or if they were on lead. Unacceptable in my book, so she remains on lead or long line where it is appropriate.

Personally I love it when I see owners like you, it's so much easier to work on my dogs "friendly reactivity" with a dog who is ignoring her (on lead or not) rather than one who will just let their dog run up to mine.

I don't know of any other owner who would be miffed in the scenario you are describing to be honest.

Thank you for training your dog to be the ideal, but just remember some of us have dogs who haven't pick up the necessary training or reliability yet!

Hekatestorch · 25/08/2021 07:58

If they are going to great lengths, you can simply say 'dog is trained to not approach on lead dogs'

Thats its. If ask further, just point out that not all lead dogs are friendly and lots of owners of on lead dogs, don't want unknown dogs approaching because their dogs are nervous, fear aggressive, being trained etc.

If there's time to go to great lengths and you to hear these great lengths there's time for you to explain why.

Newfluff · 25/08/2021 08:04

They are not miffed, just letting you know that their dog is friendly because people often struggle to keep their dog away, its much much rarer to have a dog trained to stay away.

tabulahrasa · 25/08/2021 08:28

Can’t say I’ve ever been miffed...

But mine is currently an on lead dog because he hit 9 months and decided recall was optional, so I do often tell people he’s friendly - just because otherwise you get some people panicking a bit trying to keep their dog away and he doesn’t need loads of space or anything .... it’s just that he’d follow their dog home if he was loose.

icedcoffees · 25/08/2021 08:36

I've never once been miffed because a dog has ignored mine - that's odd to say the least.

However I might say "he's friendly, he's just on lead as he has bad recall in the woods" if they're visibly struggling to recall their own dog.

You say your dog is trained not to approach but it's good manners to put him back on the lead when you see an on-lead dog approaching.

Bigpjbottoms282 · 25/08/2021 08:37

How strange. My dog's on lead, I wouldn't give it a seconds thought if an off lead dog walked straight past. It would actually make a nice change!

ItsOnlyADog · 25/08/2021 12:21

Four times I have tried to reply today and each time the page had suddenly shut down. I’ll try to keep it brief.

If you/or someone you know doesn’t object when I keep my dig away to let you/them pass with dog on lead then I’m not referring to you/them.

I totally agree that it isn’t usual for dog owners to object to someone allowing them to pass safely. Well it never has been until recently. That is probably why I felt the need to mention it.

Anyway I’m shocked to the fire this morning. 4 times on Sunday I had owners with their on lead dogs have a go at me for keeping my dog away from theirs. My dog is a small spaniel/poodle cross so not intimidating at all and definitely not boisterous (as most poodle crosses are usually depicted).

As I was walking up the path to the Woods some bloke was walking down. I called my dog from sniffing a tree and he walked with me to pass. The bloke shouted, “What the fuck is wrong with you? My dog is alright. It a dog not a killing machine”. Then he allowed his dog to get in my dogs face and said, “See. What’s the problem?”

I was very upset by this tbh. Anyway my son showed me an article on his phone this morning. A 3 year old was attacked by an on lead dog in the very area and just after I had this unpleasant experience with this bloke. I don’t know if it is the same dog but I won’t be surprised if it is.

Shocking! Poor child. I’ll try to link the article below.

Sorry if I offended anyone. It wasn’t my intention. I was upset and confused 💐

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ItsOnlyADog · 25/08/2021 12:25

www.walesonline.co.uk/news/local-news/three-year-old-seriously-injured-21394985.amp

To be clear. The path you see on the left is the track to the woods. The cafe, picnic area and children’s play area is further on. I do not take my dog into the actual park area. I just walk up the track to the woods.

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Bigpjbottoms282 · 25/08/2021 12:25

That's sounds awful. Try not to let it spoil things for you, you're 100% in the right. That bloke sounds horrible.

Saucery · 25/08/2021 12:30

Oh that’s awful, no wonder you are shaken up by it.
I’ve had owners of some breeds roll their eyes when I crossed over with my previous dog, who was reactive to those breeds. Some even said similar to what the man said to me. It was a bit of a faff to explain why tbh. I could tell some of them just didn’t believe me and thought it was me who had something against GSDs etc!

LublinToDublin · 25/08/2021 19:28

What a horrible encounter 💐
If you'd posted that in your OP you would have got very different responses as we would have understood the situation.

I really hope you feel better.

Seriouslymole · 26/08/2021 12:31

Yuck - what a horrible time. So sorry for you OP. For reference though, my dog is on lead as she has catastropic recall and is not to be trusted around small dogs when she is off-lead. On-lead, she is terrified of small dogs so I am very grateful for the vanishingly few owners who have control of their small dogs and keep them away.

Newfluff · 26/08/2021 12:44

“What the fuck is wrong with you? My dog is alright. It a dog not a killing machine”

Ah, I've had this, from owners of traditionally feared dogs (such as rotties, and bull breeds) when I used to pick up my King Charles Spaniel. Took them a while to realise that it was for their dogs protection because mine was horrid.

StarfishDish · 30/08/2021 08:42

@Saucery

I think you’ve met an odd ‘someone’. I like owners like you - my puppy needs to learn that not every dog wants to play with her and it helps enormously to have a calm, well-trained dog to walk past and ignore her. I also like the owners who stop to ask if their dog can say hello, they can see I’m doing a Sit Watch Me for a reason. The aim is that one day my dog will be the calm one walking past excitable puppies unless given a clear signal to stop and say Hello Grin
@Saucery Good luck! Our pup has just turned one and still doesn't understand that not all dogs want to play Grin
vivainsomnia · 30/08/2021 11:27

On AIBU, you are led to believe that all dogs on lead are so because they are anxious. My reality is that these are the very minority. Most dogs on leads in area where other dogs are not are so because of their recall, not because they are anxious of other dogs or reactive for other reasons.

I don't understand why so people here seem to experience such struggle in communicating. I find that it is perfectly natural to pick up on sign from the dogs and their owners. My dog seems to do this very well himself. He will make a very gentle move towards a dog on lead but remaining 2m or more away. I will make eye contact with the owner. They will either make a move for their dog to get closer to mine. Or I will ask if it's ok, and they inevitably yes, absolutely. Occasionally they will say that their dog is a bit reactive but still keen for my dog to come close, very submissively, and their dog reacts very gently. Only a handful of time as someone said that their dog couldn't be approached at all, usually in a very apologetic way, and I tell them that they are no reason to apologise, it's absolutely fine, I call mine, he comes to me.

I have my dog for 18 months now and it's really not an issue. Yes there have been instances when the dog on the lead started to bark at my dog when only 2m apart. That's fine, he just turns around. No big deal. I had time when dogs have run to mine a bit too eagerly (he is small size) but they have then been very gentle and it's been no issue.

I don't get all these supposed strict 'rules'. I guess you meant well, and it was silly of him to assume you were asking your dog to come because you thought his was aggressive.

In doubt, I just ask. A simple 'is your dog ok to be approached' with a smile. 99% of the dogs owner I pass on walks are lovely, friendly and laid back and so are their dogs, on lead or not.

ItsOnlyADog · 31/08/2021 22:46

In doubt, I just ask. A simple 'is your dog ok to be approached' with a smile. 99% of the dogs owner I pass on walks are lovely, friendly and laid back and so are their dogs, on lead or not

I agree 99% of dog owners are lovely, friendly and laid back. I’m happy to allow my dog to have a sniff and a play with other, off lead, friendly dogs.

He has been trained to not approach any dog that is on lead. He doesn’t - ever! I am not going to confuse him by allowing him to approach this one - because he looks ok, not approach that one, because he is probably reactive, not approach that one, because he may be blind/recovering from surgery/elderly/wearing a yellow vest or approach that one because he looks young and probably hasn’t been taught recall…

I’m happy to allow my dog to socialise with other off lead dogs, when I give him permission. He has a run around with his friends every morning.

I’m also happy for him to ignore any on lead dog. In fact that’s what I have spent the most time teaching him. I’m not happy to call my dog to heel /put him on lead (which I always do when we meet an obviously nervous dog) to pass an on lead dog only to have the other owner then allow their dog to invade my dogs space. And in this instance verbally abuse me to boot!

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0ntheg0again · 01/09/2021 11:23

Sometimes if my dog is on a lead for various reasons, picnics/livestock/dogs he don't like etc, and we meet another off lead dog, they would make an effort to put their dog on the lead. I would say something like that, he is friendly just to explain he is on the lead for a particular reason.

vivainsomnia · 01/09/2021 12:01

You've done nothing wrong. He just got the wrong perception probably because many dog owners go length to avoid his dog. Surely though, he can't be crossed with dogs who are just not interested. That's normal behaviour, trained or not.

thistimelastweek · 01/09/2021 12:08

We keep.our dog on the lead because she has unreliable recall and the capacity for mischief.

Like the PP, I always call out to approaching dog walkers that she's friendly simply to save them the bother of calling back their own dogs which many feel obliged to do.

Of course, I'm not miffed if some dogs choose to ignore her. In fact, it's good for her to learn that she's not universally adored which is her current belief.