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Old dog with possibly fatal condition

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HildegardeCrowe · 11/06/2021 18:35

I have a beloved JRT cross rescue dog who’s approximately 14 (found as a stray with no previous history). His hind legs have recently become quite unsteady, he can’t climb stairs anymore and is dragging his knuckles when he walks. His planting reflex seems to have gone too (a test where you fold the paw over and see if the dog puts it back in the right position. If it doesn’t it’s not good). All these symptoms point to a possible condition called degenerative myelopathy which soon leads to paralysis and death (it’s incurable). I’m taking him to the vet but am wondering if I should agree to any possible suggestions such as an MRI. These are hugely expensive and my insurance isn’t great now because he’s old. What would you do for an older dog with a potentially deadly condition?

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LEMtheoriginal · 11/06/2021 18:38

How is his quality of life?

HildegardeCrowe · 11/06/2021 18:39

It’s good. He loves his walks and is eating well so no problem at the moment.

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villainousbroodmare · 11/06/2021 18:40

I would have a chat with the vet, probably wouldn't choose to go down the route of expensive diagnostics and would instead look at what (if anything) can be done to give him good quality of life. If prospects are poor, I would put him to sleep and would not allow him to deteriorate to a point where he is struggling.

HildegardeCrowe · 11/06/2021 18:41

Thank you @villainousbroodmare. Those were my thoughts too.

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Helenluvsrob · 11/06/2021 18:42

He’s 14. What gives him pleasure in life ? What is just endurance for him ?

I don’t think I’d be putting him through mri etc as it’s not without discomfort and at least I assume sedation.

But I might think differently if my dog was 14 …. I’d hope I could still be objective and put his needs and comfort first but gosh it must be so hard ( and I managed end of life care for my mum and dad !)

HildegardeCrowe · 11/06/2021 18:48

He still seems very happy @Helenluvsrob. And I do love him fiercely; I live alone most of the time now DD’s at uni and he’s my constant companion and sleeps with me at night 😊 But I would never put him through unpleasant medical procedures because that would be selfish and I want him to be comfortable. I’m sorry about your parents - now that IS hard.

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cupsofcoffee · 11/06/2021 19:41

I wouldn't put a 14yo dog through any expensive tests or procedures, especially if they require anaesthetic.

I would do everything possible to keep him happy and comfortable.

albird · 11/06/2021 20:22

Theres a facebook group devoted to this condition - it has a lot of very useful information but can be hard reading at times.

PermanentlyDizzy · 11/06/2021 23:01

We are in a similar position OP, I really feel for you.

My boy is approaching 16. He has odd neuro type episodes, which may or may not be partial seizures (vet not sure). He has well managed arthritis and old dog vestibular disorder, which flares up from time to time. His back end is getting weaker, he’s wobbly, doesn’t do stairs, but can get up and down the back door step. He knuckles over on one hind leg intermittently, but does still right it and will if you do the planting reflex test as well. He’s recently had full bloods done and they were all ok.

We have good insurance and have discussed referral to specialist neurologists with our vet, but, given they don’t want to do anything about his one dodgy tooth, as the feels GA would be unwise, there’s no way we would put him through an MRI or any other tests. So we’re trying to capture video of his episodes and she is going to use those to consult with them for ‘best advice’ for management instead.

Meanwhile, he’s happy, still loves his food, brain training, snuffle and licki mats and going for short pootley/sniffy walks. He sleeps a lot and isn’t interested in his toys anymore, but boy can he shift when he wants to - usually when he smells dh making his afternoon apple and peanut butter snack! He’s a bit deaf and doesn’t hear when we get his food bowl out anymore, but if he smells food being prepared in the kitchen or the scent of food in the oven he’s in there like a shot. He likes his routine, we are clearly told what he expects when and he doesn’t stand for any delays (he does top class Paddington stares). He still has a geriatric version of the zoomies after his dinner every evening and likes to play a game where he goes in and out the back door, while one of use ‘chases’ him. Then he stands on the lawn and waits, till we get just within reach of him and off he goes at his geriatric zoomie pace, back indoors to start the loop again. We have to do that four times every evening. After that he’s always exhausted, but super happy. He also still likes to sneak up to the magpies and pigeons on the fence and do one great big ‘woof’ to scare them off. So despite his struggles, he still has a decent quality of life and happy and enjoying himself.

So, our plan is to keep doing everything we can to help him remain happy and comfortable for as long as we can. Keep monitoring him, regular vet checks (currently see them monthly) and keeping a check on his quality of life and if things change for the worse, let him go before he starts to suffer.

It really is the hardest thing to be going through. We lost our other boy relatively young (two weeks after his 7th birthday) this time last year. He had been ill for a long time with a horrible auto-immune condition, but the end was at home, sudden and a shock. I really couldn’t go through that again, even though actually, he wouldn’t have have known anything about it. I definitely want to be able to give my old boy a peaceful end to a happy life and will admit to being constantly hypervigilant for any signs that we need to be making tough decisions. I can only hope we are doing the right thing by him.

HildegardeCrowe · 11/06/2021 23:24

Thank you for your lovely long post @PermanentlyDizzy. I’d come over all tearful tonight but reading how you’re coping with your dear dog has warmed my heart. What breed is he? My boy seems quite happy too most of the time and still does short runs around the park in the morning. I think regular visits to the vet is the way forward for me too with no major investigations. Does your boy have any incontinence problems? Mine doesn’t yet but definitely can’t hold it like he used too and I have to put puppy pads down even if I only go out for a short time. I’m telling myself that his age is only an estimate as he was a stray when found so he might be even older than 14 and I’m so lucky to have had him for so long in good health.

You are definitely doing the right thing by him and I wish you both well x

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PermanentlyDizzy · 12/06/2021 01:51

He’s a Lurcher. We got him as a 14 week old rescue and he has outlived three of our other dogs, including one significantly younger than him. We were worried how he would cope as an only dog, but he’s loving all the attention and being spoiled rotten.

He doesn’t exactly have incontinence issues, but a couple of times recently he has started to poo while finishing his dinner or snuffle mat and seems unaware it’s happening. Thankfully he has a very robust digestive system, so it’s a quick and easy clean up and he is non the wiser. He’s only wet in the house once, when he woke dh up to take him out at 5.30 am and instead dh turned over and fell back to sleep, so now if he wakes us, we’re straight out with him. Same if he asks during the day. He’s not huge for a Lurcher, but big enough that accidental wees are far more than a puppy pad could cope with - more of a flood really!

We have had a visitor tonight, for the first time in over a year and he was ecstatic to see them. They’re one of his favourite people anyway, but it was lovely to reaffirm how excited and happy he can still be.

Yes, we are the same. We feel so lucky to still have him. He’s only really developed the health issues he has in the last 12 months. Before that, other than a bladder problem when he was 8, he only ever saw the vet for check ups and vaccinations. We say that every day we get to spend with him now is a blessing and a bonus and that helps remind us to make each day as good as it can be for him. He’s been such a lovely, loving, loyal member of our family that we feel it’s really an honour to be able to take care of him in his old age and repay all that love and loyalty.

I wish you and your lovely old boy all the best as well. My best advice, is to be like your dog and live for each day with him. Do everything you can to keep him happy, comfortable and pain free, have regular vet checks, listen to their advice/guidance, monitor how he’s doing and try not to waste your time and energy worrying and getting upset, when you could be using it to enjoy the time you have with him. x

HildegardeCrowe · 12/06/2021 06:34

Thank you for letting me into your life @PermanentlyDizzy. I love lurchers and whippets and have been looking for one on the rescue websites as I’d like another dog but there are so few animals available at the moment. Am in no hurry though.,Thank you for being so positive about how to handle this. My boy (Alfie) has other issues too and I wonder if it might be dementia. He gets get very aggressive and snappy if you touch him in the wrong way (to him!) but I’ve learnt how to deal with it. He’s so incredibly loving most of the time and I know he can’t help it. I just dread the time when he’s not here but you’re so right; I’ll enjoy each day I have with him and find a way of making this last part of his life full of love and the things he enjoys. And that is slow walks when he can just sniff and delve into the long grass (interspersed with short energetic runs), lots of meetings with other dogs and last but not least, snuggling up on the sofa. Lots of love to you and your boy x

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