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Labradoodle or cockerpoo?

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GinAndTonicOnIt · 10/06/2021 07:27

Hello! Married with three young kids. Looking at either a labradoodle or a cockerpoo. Which would you recommend? Kids are ages 7, 5 and 3. One DC has mild special needs (similar to autism).

Many thanks!

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1starwars2 · 11/06/2021 08:27

My poodle cross is fabulous and not at all barmy.
The food obsession of labradors would put me off. Especially with small children.
Our dog would never take food, unless offered (and even then is a bit fussy).
So many people with labradors have issues with illness with their dogs stealing inappropriate food.

YelloYelloYello · 11/06/2021 08:34

@ATowelAndAPotato
Honestly from what you have said I would get a Labrador. I don’t think their shedding is as bad as the longer haired breeds
I know you would assume that because it has a short coat it wouldn’t shed badly but it really does. In spring it comes off then in chunks.

Chocolateandamaretto · 11/06/2021 09:15

I've just done my first spring moult with a lab and it was A LOT. Like hoover in the morning and then need to again in the afternoon a lot. Our Roomba is basically on all the time.
Also he is just coming up to one and I can't run with him yet. You need to be careful with anything a bit lab and their hip/elbow joints. So if you're getting a dog to run with then factor in up to 2 years of wait time before that can happen.
Tbh it sounds like you're not getting a poodle because your husband doesn't like their frou frou hair cuts - I think you need to find some pictures of standard poodles that haven't been clipped to pom poms and show him!

YelloYelloYello · 11/06/2021 09:34

Unfortunately poodles are not to my husbands taste.
Is it just the stereotypical show cut he doesn’t like? Because most poodles don’t look like that. If he likes the look of a cockapoo then he’ll like the look of a poodle. I’ve attached photos of poodles with standard cuts to show you.

(Although if you’re prioritising appearance that highly over temperament and personality then you may need to reevaluate being a dog owner at all.)

Labradoodle or cockerpoo?
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0ntheg0again · 11/06/2021 10:36

My SIL has a "miniature" labradoodle, sold as a miniature but of course is not! lovely dog but very very needy. I agree with PP that please show your DH some photos of poodles that has not got the silly poodle cut.

Otherwise there are lots of breeds out there, Labs, retrievers all lovely or a nice terrier or schnauzer? Just go for a breed that hasn't got many known health issues, which I guess doodles haven't but then you have the problem with horrible breeders

GinAndTonicOnIt · 11/06/2021 17:08

I'm still researching. I am quite alarmed by the posts saying how different labradors are from cocker spaniels.

Size - I understand they are poles apart

But I thought both breeds were easy to train and a nice temperament, good with kids? I have never had a dog before, so am basing all of this on what I've ready online. Is this information incorrect?

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cupsofcoffee · 11/06/2021 17:17

@GinAndTonicOnIt

I'm still researching. I am quite alarmed by the posts saying how different labradors are from cocker spaniels.

Size - I understand they are poles apart

But I thought both breeds were easy to train and a nice temperament, good with kids? I have never had a dog before, so am basing all of this on what I've ready online. Is this information incorrect?

I would say they're very different breeds, yes.

Cocker spaniels are like crazy little whirlwinds of energy. They're bred to hunt so they often follow their nose. They need a fair amount of exercise and a good amount of mental stimulation too. The ones I walk all have a "job" - they work (on shoots), or do things like agility and cani-cross. Their owners also do a fair amount of brain work with them each day at home.

Labradors are originally fishing dogs but are now more commonly gun or hunting dogs. They also have a great sense of smell but generally love the water. I'd say an adult labrador is probably much calmer than an adult cocker spaniel, though they shed a lot. I've never met a labrador that didn't appear to leave half their coat behind on my jeans :)

Personally I find labradors slightly dull, though I know that's a hugely unpopular opinion on here! I love cockers but they do require lots of work and I wouldn't pick one (or a cross of one) if your child has special needs as they're not especially calm animals!

GinAndTonicOnIt · 11/06/2021 17:36

Thanks for replying @cupsofcoffee that's very helpful! It really shows that the internet can only help so much. Talking to actual experienced owners is vital...!

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GinAndTonicOnIt · 11/06/2021 17:38

@YelloYelloYello the poodles do look lovely!

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GinAndTonicOnIt · 11/06/2021 17:40

I haven't looked at poodles at all. But maybe time for a re think! Would they tick all the boxes?

  • easy to train
  • good therapy dog
  • energetic when you want it to be
  • calm when you want it to be
  • shedding free
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GinAndTonicOnIt · 11/06/2021 17:41

@YellowMonday the Portuguese Water Dogs look perfect, but I can see any for sale unfortunately

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GinAndTonicOnIt · 11/06/2021 17:48

Thanks to all who advised the Australian labradoodles. They are PERFECT and I want one. But sadly we can't afford one. I know all dogs are expensive but they really are exceptionally pricey to buy

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GrandmasCat · 11/06/2021 18:08

You can make a big poodle look like the Portuguese Water Dog if you order the same haircut.

Poodles do not shed and are easy to train, but all the other items in your list will depend on how good a trainer you are as an owner, be it a poodle it any other breed. 🙂

crochetcrazy1978 · 11/06/2021 18:12

If you're looking for a non shedding dog maybe consider a havanese. They definitely don't shed and are small (size of a westie) loving and chilled temperament. Don't need loads of exercise. My mum and dad have two and they are trained therapy dogs. Really nice breed

crochetcrazy1978 · 11/06/2021 18:15

Forgot to say havanese are long haired but my mum and dad have them clipped short which is much easier to manage

NameChange231 · 11/06/2021 18:15

I have a cockapoo and a Labrador.

Cockapoo - we don’t brush everyday, take the fur quite short when grooomed but does need more brushing as the fur gets longer. Has always been comfortable being left alone during the day. Was very stubborn as a teenager, god the teenage years were hard. Is a registered therapy dog and has been temperament assessed. We don’t run so don’t run with the dogs but the cockapoo has a good heel and enjoys running. I think with some training could run nicely to heel with us. Can walk 8 hours a day when on holiday but can also do a lazy day. More stubborn. Apparently dogs can’t roll their eyes, this one does. Slightly more wary of ‘scary’ things but isn’t timid.

Labrador - harder as a puppy. Does shed, it’s not loads. Not ready to be a therapy dog, far to excited and will probably take some time before calm enough to be assessed. Also loves running but is generally more clumsy than the cockapoo (that could just be our dogs though). Less able to walk 8 hours a day on holiday and less able to do a lazy day. Bigger chewer, so lots more animal chews to keep the lab occupied and stop the sofas being chewed. Is more likely to find themselves in mischief by trying to sniff out balls and other things put out of their reach. More likely to jump off something or run into something or climb on something. Also more likely to eat something it shouldn’t. Generally fearless.

Both dogs required a lot of training and a lot of time input. Both dogs were generally easy to train but even then still require large amounts of time and energy.

Poodles don’t need to have the usual poodle haircut. They have their pros and cons like all dogs. They’re easy to train, quite food driven and quite praise driven. They tend to be good all round dogs and can pick up new things quite quickly. Some are very playful and some are a bit more standoffish. They’re very intelligent but that intelligence can mean they’re stubborn. They can bond better with one person in the family so that’s something to ensure that everyone does the training. Cocker spaniels have a lot of energy, they’re very intelligent and that energy and intelligence can make them quite full on. Most cocker spaniels I’ve known have been quite timid or anxious, especially working spaniels.

I think pedigree used to have a tool that would suggest breeds suitable for your family. You answer the questions based on what is important to you and what you can give a dog and it lists a few, some usually well known ones and then a few obscure ones too.

XingMing · 11/06/2021 21:21

I have read the whole thread on this, OP, and I think you need to think very hard think about how your dog is going to fit into your life. If you have a pup, it will be t least 12 months (and 18 months would be better) before it is big and strong enough to run properly. It will be keen on smelling. Dogs don't follow the rules that humans like to think they set. My current dog, a lab, thinks she's a JRT. Her mission is to kill vermin... rats, squirrels and rabbits. She's pure Lab to look at. and pretty, but she kills small critters. The rangers who look after our local woodlands adore her. She does their job.

SoThisisMe · 11/06/2021 21:25

@GinAndTonicOnIt

Thanks to all who advised the Australian labradoodles. They are PERFECT and I want one. But sadly we can't afford one. I know all dogs are expensive but they really are exceptionally pricey to buy
Do you work outside the house? If not and you have a breeder local to you you could look at being a family care home for a breeding prospect dog? It's a big commitment but it's only for a few years and the pup would be free or vastly reduced. They might want your younger DC to be a bit older first though.
Yarisalpaca · 12/06/2021 12:40

"Apparently dogs don't roll their eyes, this one does"

Yes, we have a cockerpoo and he rolls his eyes for England. I thought it was just him, never seen another dog do it :)

GinAndTonicOnIt · 12/06/2021 15:20

Do you work outside the house? If not and you have a breeder local to you you could look at being a family care home for a breeding prospect dog? It's a big commitment but it's only for a few years and the pup would be free or vastly reduced. They might want your younger DC to be a bit older first though.

I think I will apply. We really want a boy dog though. Priorities include a dog that would fit into our lives temperament wise etc and that we could care for adequately but our only preference would a that we have a boy. Colour appearance etc we don't mind.

I've looked into poodles and I am a bit worried about the bonding with one person thing.

There would always be someone home with the dog. I agree though they may want the children to be older. It's a shame, my youngest would never be left alone and would be carefully watched with the dog. I'll apply and see what happens. If they say no I think this will be the end of our dog journey for now and we will revisit in a few years. I feel sad because there's not much else for us to look forward to at the moment but I guess we can't be selfish with this.

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tabulahrasa · 12/06/2021 16:23

“I've looked into poodles and I am a bit worried about the bonding with one person thing.”

It’s not a huge deal... most dogs have a favourite person....

Also if breed traits put you off any breed, don’t get a cross with that breed in it, because you could end up with that trait anyway.

GinAndTonicOnIt · 12/06/2021 16:28

Also if breed traits put you off any breed, don’t get a cross with that breed in it, because you could end up with that trait anyway.

This makes sense. Although, my head has now actually exploded Confused I can't work out if I'm being responsible or overthinking things if I just decided dogs are clearly not for me!

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cupsofcoffee · 12/06/2021 16:33

Also if breed traits put you off any breed, don’t get a cross with that breed in it, because you could end up with that trait anyway.

I definitely agree with this!

Don't get a poodle cross if some of the poodle traits worry you.

Planttrees · 12/06/2021 17:05

It sounds like you are sensibly thinking this through but please remember that getting a dog is like having another child. Although you think you know what you are getting they are all different individuals and have their own personality traits. I would also add that it is a huge commitment in terms of both time and money so you need to be sure you have enough of both. Finally, you will find, at least for the first 12-18 months, that you will need to change your life to fit around the dog - you can't expect a new puppy to slot into yours without a lot of hard work! I have had dogs most of my life but I would really thing twice about taking on another puppy with young children. Your life is hard enough without another young life to worry about!

OverByYer · 12/06/2021 17:08

All the cockerpoos I know are really skittish. I’d go for a working cocker over a mixed breed