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Mollymolloy · 06/06/2021 23:15

We are in the middle of having a new kitchen fitted. A friend has offered us an 8 week old Labrador puppy. My children are delighted. I am not so sure as I am worried about damage to the new kitchen. We have never owned a dog before. However, I mostly work from home and my children will be home over the summer. Is a puppy a good idea?

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Turquoisesol · 07/06/2021 09:05

I wish people had been more honest with me about the reality of a puppy to be honest. We are coping but I was not really prepared. And my kids are older primary age

LadyCatStark · 07/06/2021 10:22

Unless you’re 100% commuted don’t do it!

Our puppy is 11 weeks and it’s been a million times harder than I thought it would be, despite doing research and reading posts like these where puppy owners tell you exactly how hard it is! You can’t imagine until you experience it for real. This is with a puppy who sleeps through the night and toilet trained straight away too! It’s the biting that make it so difficult, it’s relentless at first and you do have to watch them like a hawk when they’re out of their crate, which our puppy only uses for sleeping in or short period when we go out without him not for being contained while we do jobs. In the first 2 weeks I was literally dehydrated and couldn’t even go for a wee or make lunch as I tried to balance working from home and our puppy. It has been getting easier since he has been able to go for a walk but my god it’s hard work! I’d let unattended for even a few minutes I’ve no doubt he would chew up the entire house. He’s even tried chewing the corner of the walls, the carpet and the base of the patio doors!

LadyCatStark · 07/06/2021 10:23

Oh and he’s bitten holes in 3 of my hoodies, one pair of jeans and a shirt of DH’s too 🙈.

bunnygeek · 07/06/2021 11:27

If puppies weren't so cute, no one would have them.

There were still chew marks on the doors of my grandparent's house when they sold it, remnants of their lovely old Labrador

cupsofcoffee · 07/06/2021 14:52

The main reason that I am getting the dog is because I do a lot of walking and running. We live in a beautiful area with lots of lovely walks.

You won't be able to take a puppy on long runs or walks for a good eighteen months or so.

My main concern with your post is that you don't seem to have done any preparation for this at all. Who is going to watch the puppy while you're working? I know you're at home, but you can't work and supervise a puppy at the same time. DH and I took a month off work with ours before sending him to daycare - there is no WAY I could get anything done with a puppy at home - for a good month I couldn't even have a shower unless DH was home at the same time! Grin

What about days out or evenings out? You can't leave a small pup for too long so can you afford the cost of a walker, sitter etc?

Frenchfancy · 07/06/2021 15:01

Why is no one questioning why someone has a spare 8 wk lab puppy. They are normally on a waiting list and cost ££££.

Puppies are very hard work. Do not rely on your Dds to help. My teens promised help, but we're no where to be seen when puppy needed a wee at 5:30am or when she needed attention to stop her biting everything.

Dogs are great, I wouldn't be without one, but puppies are horrible.

QueenOfToast · 07/06/2021 15:23

Totally agree with other puppy owners who say it's REALLY hard work for the first few weeks. Do not get a puppy unless you have done some research and are committed and ready to deal with all the horrid bits of puppy/dog ownership - biting, nipping, chewing, eating other dogs' poo 🤢, barking, refusing to walk, pulling on lead, separation anxiety, difficulty with recall, house training issues, broken sleep.

It's very intense at first and I had a similar experience to @LadyCatStark - not dehydration, but I lost 6 pounds in the first 3 weeks of puppy ownership due to hardly having time to eat more than a mouthful or two at any mealtime and being constantly on the go.

Now my puppy is nearly 6 months, things are much more relaxed and I love having a dog. However, I had wanted one for many years and I was fully prepared for the fact that it would be very time consuming for the first few months. If I wasn't a dog mad person then I think I would find it really relentless and soul destroying. Think carefully.

BarkingUpTheWrongRoseBush · 07/06/2021 16:51

@cupsofcoffee

The main reason that I am getting the dog is because I do a lot of walking and running. We live in a beautiful area with lots of lovely walks.

You won't be able to take a puppy on long runs or walks for a good eighteen months or so.

My main concern with your post is that you don't seem to have done any preparation for this at all. Who is going to watch the puppy while you're working? I know you're at home, but you can't work and supervise a puppy at the same time. DH and I took a month off work with ours before sending him to daycare - there is no WAY I could get anything done with a puppy at home - for a good month I couldn't even have a shower unless DH was home at the same time! Grin

What about days out or evenings out? You can't leave a small pup for too long so can you afford the cost of a walker, sitter etc?

This, I've never done less exercise than the first year of having a dog. It's ridiculous. And when they can go further - you have to watch for other dogs, sheep, cars, birds, bicycles, horses.

They can be left for short periods, but not really for the first three weeks or so, and then just for half an hour or so.

Veterinari · 07/06/2021 21:37

@Frenchfancy

Why is no one questioning why someone has a spare 8 wk lab puppy. They are normally on a waiting list and cost ££££.

Puppies are very hard work. Do not rely on your Dds to help. My teens promised help, but we're no where to be seen when puppy needed a wee at 5:30am or when she needed attention to stop her biting everything.

Dogs are great, I wouldn't be without one, but puppies are horrible.

I questioned it.

The OP has chosen to ignore my questions

tabulahrasa · 07/06/2021 21:59

I questioned it too...

InTheNightWeWillWish · 07/06/2021 22:26

Labradors have a lot of hip and elbow problems that can be very expensive. Before considering the dog, you should your friend has health tested the pups. You should ask why she has one left - has someone dropped out, has the vet found a problem with them…? If in the first 6 months you decide to revoke your puppy, it needs to go back to your friend so you need to make sure she understands the legality of that.

Puppies chew. They discover the world through their mouths. So you need to watch them all the time. Our first dog wasn’t a massive chewer but she still chewed my handbag and a few shoes. Labs do tend to be more vigorous chewers. We’ve managed to get away with no chewing of furniture from our lab but we were much more prepared this time and we had loads of toys and chews from the first dog. He still tried to chew the couch legs, the hearth, the door frame. Even if they don’t chew furniture, everyone in the house has to put their stuff away or risk it being chewed. You’ll have stuff up high for a while, out of the reach of the door. It’s almost a certainty that someone will forget and leave their stuff in reach of the dog and it gets chewed.

You can’t walk a puppy too far to begin with and you shouldn’t run with them until they are 12-18 months. Especially with a lab given their hip and elbow problems.

Crate training is a good idea but you’ll also probably need stair gates to separate areas. You’ll need to allow the puppy plenty of time to rest away from the children and distractions. Puppies need so much sleep and so your children will need to learn that when puppy is resting/in bed they aren’t to be disturbed. Some puppies will just be tired and fall asleep wherever they are, some puppies need to be out in their bed (sometimes time and time again) and made to stay there until they sleep. Our lab was the latter.

Have you looked up the cost of insurance? Due to the health issues in labs, insurance is very expensive. Even for a puppy. It gets more expensive each year. Insurance for our 10 month lab puppy is £50 per month. That is for high level of cover but if they have hip, elbow or leg problems, one surgery can easily wipe out the £7,000 per annum limit. On top of that, you also have vaccinations, flea and worm treatment, check ups, spaying/neutering. Labs also eat anything so you might have a trip to the vets to make them throw up (usually not worth claiming on insurance). All puppies are like lemmings, so you could also have a vet bill for them deciding to jump off something/run into something/generally try to kill themselves.

You’ll have to do night time garden visits, waking up regularly to put them out. I think our lab took about 6 weeks to not go out in the night but would still need a wee about 11pm and 5.30am. At 10 months he can now go from 11pm to about 7am.

You’ll need to think about training. Labs can be stubborn but they enjoy learning and most are very intelligent (I’ve met a few stupid ones). Our lab is so much happier (less bored so less destructive and naughty) when he’s been doing some brain work. If restrictions go back up, you need to consider how you will keep training the puppy and socialising them.

Working from home is great because you can pop the dog out when needed and you’re around. However, puppies require so much attention. Whilst toilet training, if they need to go outside then you need to take them. Even if you’re on a call. You need to check they aren’t chewing anything. Ideally find some time at lunch to do some training with them or brain games. You can’t leave them unsupervised with a chew or toy in case they choke. You’d be better taking a few days off at least to settle the dog in. Both DH and I were working from home when we got our second pup and it was still difficult to watch him and make sure he wasn’t trying to kill himself by chewing through a cable or digging out a piece of long forgotten chocolate from under the kitchen cabinets. At 10 months now, he’s getting to a point where he can be mostly unsupervised, he mostly lies down on the rug and sleeps. However, I do have to check over my shoulder every so often and still listen for puppy in mischief sounds (you grow to recognise them).

Labs are very full on. With everything. It makes them wonderful dogs. They have eternal optimism. Every walk is just the best walk ever. Every person is lovely. Every dog is a new playmate. Every hand might have a treat in it. Everything on the floor might be food. The downside to this is that they need a lot of training. Training not to pull, not to jump, to leave food they find, to not lock people, to be calm, to wait, to be patient, to not be too friendly, to leave other dogs and people alone. It’s hard work and the whole family needs to be part of training (and agree to the same rules before you even pick up the dog).

mellongoose · 08/06/2021 04:48

I agree with some of this and agree OP needs to be totally committed. However, not all puppies are like this.

We have a 13 week lab and he settled in his crate from day one. We have the crate in a play pen for when I cannot keep an eye on him. If the door is open to the garden, he always goes out for a poo and mostly for wees.

The chewing is relentless but not furniture or kitchens! Plenty of chew toys and moving stuff we don't want chewed helps.

Our DC is 6 and has learned that if she is calm, pup is calm. My only problem is that I need to find time to train him regularly. My older dog was before DC so has my undivided attention. Hence he is really good. The pup will take more work. Getting pup alone for training in a busy house is the challenge.

Good luck!

cupsofcoffee · 08/06/2021 07:00

However, not all puppies are like this.

You're absolutely right but it's best to be prepared for the worst. My dog was relatively easy as a puppy (aside from his separation anxiety) but I know numerous people who really struggled.

Personally I found the teenage months much harder to cope with and OP will be dealing with those during the winter with a Labrador who is likely to be a magnet for mud and water Wink

I just don't think she sounds remote prepared for the reality of owning a dog and it all seems to be based on a nice fantasy of long countryside walks and runs.

Now I'm not saying those things don't happen but it takes a hell of a lot of work a and training to get there - and trying to work full-time while you deal with a puppy is going to be tough!

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