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Cocker ate 1 raisin.

103 replies

nevernotstruggling · 04/03/2021 20:23

I'm pretty sure he's eaten them before as I didn't know it was an issue until recently and he's 6. I dropped 1 on the floor.

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GuppytheCat · 05/03/2021 08:50

Our vet said ‘We could save a lot of our time and yours if we knew why some dogs react and others don’t.’

This was on about Trip 3 for the bloody raisin-obsessed hound, after it had snaffled a bit of Danish pastry from next door’s hedge.

BillieSpain · 05/03/2021 08:52

@CaffeineAndCrochet

I didn't know grapes and raisins were toxic. I'm glad I've seen this.
God, me too Shock

I knew about chocolate. DD probably knows though. I am sure I gave my dog a home made flapjack in the summer, full of raisins Hmm

I won't do that again.

However, as other posters say, DDog will eat what ever she finds on walks. I risked my life when someone had left BBQ rib bones on the side of the road, I had to prize them from her jaws!

BillieSpain · 05/03/2021 08:56

@nevernotstruggling

He's fine so far. I didn't sleep very well but he did! He's mithering me to get up now by sighing loudly.
So sweet OP!
dontdisturbmenow · 05/03/2021 09:00

I had no idea it was an issue until our puppy was about 6 months. I used to give him some but although he shoved everyrhing, he wasnt keen in the grapes and only played with them in his mouth.

I'm sure he would have swallowed some bits, certainly juice, never caused him problems despite a very dodgy tummy.

sunflowersandbuttercups · 05/03/2021 13:27

My vet described it as similar to a peanut allergy in that one is enough.

Great way of looking at it.

You wouldn't tell a peanut-allergic child to "just have one, it's fine" so I don't know why people are so laid-back when it comes to their dogs. You don't know whether your dog will have a fatal reaction, but why the fuck would you risk it?

nevernotstruggling · 05/03/2021 14:04

I've been checking on him all day on the dog cam. He's snoozing in his bed after sitting at the patio doors watching the bunny and wandering around. He's fine. When we reach 24 hours I will relax.

I'm banning bloody raisins now!

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Frenchfancy · 05/03/2021 17:59

But surely if it is like a peanut allergy then you observe. If a child ate a peanut but had no known peanut allergy you wouldn't rush them to hospital, have their stomach pumped and keep them in on iv drip for 72 hours!
Obviously if there is a known allergy then your reaction would be different.

Pleased your pup is OK op.

nevernotstruggling · 05/03/2021 18:00

We are home. Dog is full of joy. I think we are done with this saga 😀

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JesusInTheCabbageVan · 05/03/2021 18:13

Glad he seems to be OK OP!

I think almost all of us have a raisin horror story - here's mine. www.mumsnet.com/Talk/the_doghouse/3459677-FUCKING-DDOG-has-just-eaten-a-mince-pie-FFS

To those downplaying it... while it would be horribly, horribly unlucky for a dog to die after eating a single raisin, it could still happen. The problem with keeping them under observation is that by the time they start showing symptoms, it's too late. Raisins etc cause organ damage in dogs that are susceptible, and you can't fix that.

I'm honestly not trying to guilt trip you here OP - it's just something to bear in mind for the future, and for anyone else in the same position. Smile

As pp have said, it's nothing to do with body weight/quantity. From documented cases, we know that x number of raisins CAN kill a dog weighing x kilograms. The thing is, when a dog dies, they don't get a post mortem, so this isn't an accurate or reliable estimate. Literally all it means is that one dog was observed to die after eating x raisins.

The peanut analogy is much better.

BiteyShark · 05/03/2021 18:39

@Frenchfancy

But surely if it is like a peanut allergy then you observe. If a child ate a peanut but had no known peanut allergy you wouldn't rush them to hospital, have their stomach pumped and keep them in on iv drip for 72 hours! Obviously if there is a known allergy then your reaction would be different.

Pleased your pup is OK op.

If people want to wait and risk organ damage to their own dog knowing the risks then that's their decision.

But I don't think it is wise to tell posters to not bother seeking vet advice, or 'one won't hurt' when the vet advice is to bring them in if a recent ingestion.

nevernotstruggling · 05/03/2021 19:05

I think I made a proportionate response. I think it's very important to understand the risks.

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sunflowersandbuttercups · 05/03/2021 19:13

@Frenchfancy

But surely if it is like a peanut allergy then you observe. If a child ate a peanut but had no known peanut allergy you wouldn't rush them to hospital, have their stomach pumped and keep them in on iv drip for 72 hours! Obviously if there is a known allergy then your reaction would be different.

Pleased your pup is OK op.

It's not comparable though.

If you have a life-threatening peanut allergy, it will likely show right away with an anaphylactic reaction, even if you've never had a reaction before. If someone was struggling to breathe, you'd take them to get immediate medical treatment.

With dogs and raisins, it's not an instant thing - can take 12/24 hours for the damage to become apparent, and by then it's too late to make the dog sick, so you have to let the toxin run its course and hope that your dog isn't going to die of renal failure at the same time.

If people want to take that risk with their own pets, that's fine, but encouraging other people to just "wait and see" is highly irresponsible and incredibly dangerous.

ImAncient · 05/03/2021 22:00

Glad he seems fine op.

EmilyEmmabob · 05/03/2021 22:18

My DDog ate chocolate raisins after he decided to climb on the table and steal them. I phoned the vet, took him in for stomach pumping and hydration which took a few hours and cost a fortune. He'd had about 30 altogether.

I had to make an appointment for a couple of days later to check for kidney damage, it doesn't show straight away but there will be signs after a few days. Once they have problems then it's too late.

One might cause a problem, one might not. My DDog was fine but that's perhaps because he didn't get chance to digest them. It doesn't matter about quantity and the vet was very clear about that.

I'd contact the vet, they'll most likely agree that you did the right thing but surely it's better to have piece of mind?

Hm2020 · 06/03/2021 18:58

When I was a kid we used to give my Pomeranian a packet of Cadbury’s chocolate buttons as a treat Blush he lived till 17 but we know so much more now he used to walk back from the shop carrying the packet in his mouth 🤦🏼‍♀️

nevernotstruggling · 06/03/2021 22:06

He's still totally fine - the dog. I'm a bit hyper vigilant though!

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sunflowersandbuttercups · 07/03/2021 07:36

@Hm2020

When I was a kid we used to give my Pomeranian a packet of Cadbury’s chocolate buttons as a treat Blush he lived till 17 but we know so much more now he used to walk back from the shop carrying the packet in his mouth 🤦🏼‍♀️
Most dogs can tolerate a bit of milk chocolate just fine though - it's all about the quantity of cocoa and the weight of the dog.

Most milk chocolate has very little cocoa and is unlikely to do any harm in small doses (always check the online toxicity calculators though).

Raisins are different in that it's not based on amount or the size of the dog - it's totally random. Luckily OP's dog is okay though 😊

BalancedIndividual · 08/03/2021 13:50

Sorry, but taking a dog to the vet over eating 1 raisin sounds like such a 1st world problem to me...

sunflowersandbuttercups · 08/03/2021 13:56

@BalancedIndividual

Sorry, but taking a dog to the vet over eating 1 raisin sounds like such a 1st world problem to me...
What a weird attitude.

I'd rather make 100% sure that my dog was going to be okay than risk him dying of renal failure.

BalancedIndividual · 08/03/2021 14:01

@sunflowersandbuttercups

Thats like saying youre going to take a toddler to the hospital just because you gave him a peanut. Sometimes you have to use common sense imo.

sunflowersandbuttercups · 08/03/2021 14:18

[quote BalancedIndividual]@sunflowersandbuttercups

Thats like saying youre going to take a toddler to the hospital just because you gave him a peanut. Sometimes you have to use common sense imo.[/quote]
Well, yes, if I knew my toddler was deathly allergic to peanuts, I would absolutely take them to hospital.

The point with dogs is you don't know if they're going to react until it's too late, and they can't tell you that they don't feel very well. If you can get them to the vet within an hour or two, the vet can make them vomit them up.

If you choose to leave it and "wait and see", and your dog turns out to be one of the unlucky ones, you could end up with a dead dog.

Not a risk I'm prepared to take, tbh.

JesusInTheCabbageVan · 08/03/2021 14:51

@BalancedIndividual

Sorry, but taking a dog to the vet over eating 1 raisin sounds like such a 1st world problem to me...
Only if you're not particularly fussed about dogs. Which is fine if you're not, but you need to understand that other people are.

Complaining about rude joggers (plucking an example out of the air here Smile) is very much a first world problem. Worrying about something that could cause renal failure in a much loved pet... not so much.

BalancedIndividual · 08/03/2021 15:25

@JesusInTheCabbageVan

Blush
JesusInTheCabbageVan · 08/03/2021 15:30

Grin Grin Fair play, it was naughty of me to look you up. Poor form.

nevernotstruggling · 09/03/2021 13:52

The dog lives.

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