New puppy daytime schedule

[firsttimewoofy]

Hello - first time dog owner and I I’m a new pup on Friday!

Ive read they needs lots if sleep, stimulation etc. So I’ve put this schedule together. Would you tell me what you think or if I’m being too optimistic? I plan on taking him out every hour for toilet breaks as well as the ones scheduled in.

8am - take pup out to potty

8:15 - pop in crate with some toys

8:45 - training session with food

9:15 - toilet break

9:30 - put in crate for nap

11 - play time in pen

12 - training session with food

2 - pop in crate for nap

3 - play time

5 - take out and about for socialisation

8 - meal

10 - crate for bed

@DoubleTweenQueen

I thought OP's 'schedule' was a jumping off point and has taken on board lots of suggestions and considerations? And I'm sure will be flexible when her pup comes home and they settle down together.

I hope so.

No idea why the name calling and personal attacks are necessary though

Too easy for online stuff to go places a personal chat over a cup of tea would never venture. Never mind

I'm currently eagerly awaiting training classes to get going again - 99% to train me to train my 5.5 month ESS! I'm always open to suggestion!

@DoubleTweenQueen

Too easy for online stuff to go places a personal chat over a cup of tea would never venture. Never mind

I'm currently eagerly awaiting training classes to get going again - 99% to train me to train my 5.5 month ESS! I'm always open to suggestion!

Well training you to train is key so it sounds like you're starting out the right way

What are you aiming for? Learning theory or applied behaviour analysis is pretty universal it's just about applying it (as I'm sure you already know)
Dogs trust have some good online training videos on their website, and kikopup on YouTube is great if you're into clicker training if you're looking for inspiration.

Yes have seen kikopup! Really nice.

My girl is just gorgeous and so clever. She has learned to behave really nicely in the house and with the children; a bit of obedience and good manners (we are working on 'stay' and barging through doors). House-training really good. Knows to not jump on furniture - she has her own comfy places - or go upstairs (no gate).
Exercise is in the garden which is 0.7 acre so lots of space and trees, smells and the odd pheasant to flush. Retrieving very good and recall play really good in the garden. Whistle training to call her back a bit hit & miss.
Heel work - an issue. Tried to start this early on, but just too bouncy. All vids I've seen have a well behaved pup trailing along step by step, and treat by treat, at left leg of handler. I can maybe get her to sit in the right place, then perhaps a couple of steps, then she wanders off - indoors,now she's settled down a bit. Have dived in to some loose-lead along our quiet lane, and she can be wonderful for short periods, so I am doing some of that each day.

I want to build obedience and recall, and steadiness - not chasing birds and squirrels. I am ready for it to be a long-haul.
I long for the days of off-lead rambles.
I wonder if she has me wrapped around her paw :) She's from a working line - lovely temperament though, but willing to please me yes, and the urge to please herself, we need to work on
Will be going to gundog training, hopefully in late spring. I don't want to take her hunting, just find what she enjoys and responds to

I feed mine 3 times a day so essentially breakfast, lunch and a dinner. your puppies dinner seems waaay too late. mine is 5ish. They will spend a lot of time with you so you can watch them for toilet cues. Bedtime for ours is 8 or 9.

your puppies dinner seems waaay too late. mine is 5ish
Oh yes didnt notice that. Mine would literally be gnawing my arm off by 8pm and he's not even that food motivated
Your schedule seems way too full on to me, virtually every minute accounted for. Do you always micro manage things? Do you not need any time in the day for non dog related things? Work, kids, eating, shopping, sleeping, showering

No, never micro manage anything!! But I thought I should try and be a bit more organised with a puppy. The crate time was really to enforce naps but it seems from people’s experience that they had to do this for some puppies and not others. I will adjust dinner timings, I guess it might be a bit of trial and error and seeing what suits!!

I am looking forward to it though!

DoubleTweenQueen your last post gives me a lot of hope!

Still need that photo firsttimewoofy. Its the law

Ahhh I was going to wait till he was home but since so many people have asked, here he is!

He’s a cutie. Still stuck on a name though.

A-dor-ra-ble!

@DoubleTweenQueen

Yes have seen kikopup! Really nice.

My girl is just gorgeous and so clever. She has learned to behave really nicely in the house and with the children; a bit of obedience and good manners (we are working on 'stay' and barging through doors). House-training really good. Knows to not jump on furniture - she has her own comfy places - or go upstairs (no gate).
Exercise is in the garden which is 0.7 acre so lots of space and trees, smells and the odd pheasant to flush. Retrieving very good and recall play really good in the garden. Whistle training to call her back a bit hit & miss.
Heel work - an issue. Tried to start this early on, but just too bouncy. All vids I've seen have a well behaved pup trailing along step by step, and treat by treat, at left leg of handler. I can maybe get her to sit in the right place, then perhaps a couple of steps, then she wanders off - indoors,now she's settled down a bit. Have dived in to some loose-lead along our quiet lane, and she can be wonderful for short periods, so I am doing some of that each day.

I want to build obedience and recall, and steadiness - not chasing birds and squirrels. I am ready for it to be a long-haul.
I long for the days of off-lead rambles.
I wonder if she has me wrapped around her paw :) She's from a working line - lovely temperament though, but willing to please me yes, and the urge to please herself, we need to work on
Will be going to gundog training, hopefully in late spring. I don't want to take her hunting, just find what she enjoys and responds to

Happy to give suggestions but probs better on a new thread if you want to start one. I'm sure plenty of other posters will have suggestions too

No idea why the name calling and personal attacks are necessary though

Calling someone out for hectoring, snide comments and deliberately refusing to read my posts by insisting I'm saying something when I'm not is not name calling or bullying.

I literally replied to a previous poster who said they recommended doing a range of feeding techniques with 'thanks, will do' and you still insist that I am going on about hand feeding alone and that I'm incredibly 'rigid'. Goodness me. If that is not engaging with other views and taking them on board, I don't know what is. It's extremely off putting.

I've read quite a lot and not come across the term 'enrichment' - and I pointed out to you I didn't know what it meant. You could have had the courtesy to explain rather than be snide about my lack of supposed research, seeing as you're determined to say this forum is all about sharing experiences, but you didn't.

Anyway, I really don't want an argument with you so I thank you again for your help.

Hes gorgeous OP 😍

@WaltzingBetty Yes, I will do that if I can put my finger on a specific issue :) At the moment, I think I'm just feeling a bit out of my depth generally, although I think I've done ok so far, fingers crossed regarding bad habits! (Mine, not hers)

@DoubleTweenQueen have you considered online training? We do sessions over Zoom. As you say, it's more about training the human and teaching us the techniques to train the dog, so the lack of physical contact isn't really an issue. Most of the work is done as homework anyway. I've found it really good.

I literally replied to a previous poster who said they recommended doing a range of feeding techniques with 'thanks, will do' and you still insist that I am going on about hand feeding alone and that I'm incredibly 'rigid'. Goodness me. If that is not engaging with other views and taking them on board, I don't know what is. It's extremely off putting.

Actually I have at no point said you're going on about hand feeding alone. What I said was:
Hand feeding alone won't teach bite inhibition, train your dog or mentally stimulate it

You ignored the questions I asked so that I could offer further suggestions and instead said that I was in a mood and bitchy (nice internalised misogyny there by the way).

I've said that the goals you're aiming for may not be achieved with hand feeding alone, advised additional strategies and asked some questions so that I could give you further suggestions. You ignored that in favour of attacking me

I've read quite a lot and not come across the term 'enrichment' - and I pointed out to you I didn't know what it meant. You could have had the courtesy to explain rather than be snide about my lack of supposed research, seeing as you're determined to say this forum is all about sharing experiences, but you didn't.

Actually I explained in my post at 20.08 yesterday. I literally said:
I asked why you want to hand feed - if it's for activities that stimulate and enrich your dog's physical and mental well-being then it's not the hand feeding that matters - it's the training and the other activities that you're doing.

I thought using the term in an explanatory sentence would be helpful - activities that enrich your dog's physical and mental well-being.
You've obviously ignored/not read that and responded with another unpleasant post calling me snide.

You also said that you were going to stop engaging with me. Yet here you are, still attacking me 🤷‍♀️

Still obviously not even reading my posts/and or wilfully misunderstanding what I've said.

Still calling names.

Lovely

[quote DoubleTweenQueen]@WaltzingBetty Yes, I will do that if I can put my finger on a specific issue :) At the moment, I think I'm just feeling a bit out of my depth generally, although I think I've done ok so far, fingers crossed regarding bad habits! (Mine, not hers)[/quote]
No bother. Looks like the playground bullying has taken over here so I'm out anyway.

Well I wasn’t aware only women can be in a mood, as far as I know men can be too. So definitely projecting your own misogyny there.

And given that you’re making accusations of bullying and name-calling, I thought it only fair to point out what exactly was said. Not sure where the name calling is coming from when I simply pointed out you were making a snide comment.

Ive thanked you enough times for your advice but you are determined to fling around accusations and paint yourself as a victim. So goodbye and off you trot. No doubt you’ll feel that’s misogynist too.

Words like “gaslighting” and “misogyny” and “attacking” wilfully repeated in a thread talking about puppies. Goodness me. It’s certainly active here.

I thought using the term in an explanatory sentence would be helpful - activities that enrich your dog's physical and mental well-being.
You've obviously ignored/not read that and responded with another unpleasant post calling me snide.

Ah right, the way you had phrased it I thought enrichment was some sort of technical term, especially when you told me to read more as I had not come across it. My apologies on that point if I misunderstood.

But yes I plan on enriching my dog’s physical and mental well-being through a host of activities. And I hope in time to become the owner of the most polite, well rounded enriched dog to ever live.

@firsttimewoofy

Well I wasn’t aware only women can be in a mood, as far as I know men can be too. So definitely projecting your own misogyny there.

And given that you’re making accusations of bullying and name-calling, I thought it only fair to point out what exactly was said. Not sure where the name calling is coming from when I simply pointed out you were making a snide comment.

Ive thanked you enough times for your advice but you are determined to fling around accusations and paint yourself as a victim. So goodbye and off you trot. No doubt you’ll feel that’s misogynist too.

You're just ignoring that you called me bitchy then? As for names I would have thought bitchy, snidey and moody were enough. But I'm guessing if you need me to point out where you've attacked me, I'm wasting my breath

Whatever fits your narrative 🤷‍♀️ It's not like you appear to have actually paid attention to anything I've actually written anyway

And no I'm not painting myself as a victim, just pointing out that your accusations against me are patently untrue and I haven't actually said any of the things you've accused me of. You might want to work on getting your facts straight before you start attacking people and then ignoring inconvenient facts

@firsttimewoofy

*I thought using the term in an explanatory sentence would be helpful - activities that enrich your dog's physical and mental well-being. You've obviously ignored/not read that and responded with another unpleasant post calling me snide.*

Ah right, the way you had phrased it I thought enrichment was some sort of technical term, especially when you told me to read more as I had not come across it. My apologies on that point if I misunderstood.

But yes I plan on enriching my dog’s physical and mental well-being through a host of activities. And I hope in time to become the owner of the most polite, well rounded enriched dog to ever live.

Yet another example of you assuming the worst and attacking me when I've given you helpful advice.

Seems to be a recurring pattern.

You might want to go back and read through my posts. See if you actually think what I've written warrants all of the attacking you've done. If so I'd be interested to know exactly which of the questions I asked or suggestions I made were so offensive?

Yes, I do find you bitchy, hectoring, overly defensive and passive aggressive. I find you really escalate what was a genuine call for people’s experience and help with a sanctimonious and hostile stance. I’ve had plenty of good advice, and some from you, but any whiff of a disagreement and out comes your little emojis and passive aggressive comments. It’s really off putting and unfriendly.

And bitchiness is not limited to women by the way. Plenty of men are bitchy too. Stop projecting all your issues all over my thread.

A Pp talks about bollocks and out you come getting offended and telling her she lacks experience with certain dogs. I mean really who cares? It’s just a different viewpoint but you get so het up about it. In fact, you weren’t even the only poster that applied to but you were the only one to respond in that way.

I question whether some of the advice is a bit dated and you take personal offence. Cue lots of posts that I must be rigid, need to read more, and when I call you out on it, more posts about being bullied etc.

It’s exhausting with you.

I still don’t understand why you even phrased the hand feeding as one of enrichment. Do you think I plan on doing no interaction with my dog other than hand feeding it? That I don’t want to walk it, play with it, cuddle it?

A Pp talks about bollocks and out you come getting offended and telling her she lacks experience with certain dogs. I mean really who cares? It’s just a different viewpoint but you get so het up about it. In fact, you weren’t even the only poster that applied to but you were the only one to respond in that way.

Ok so it's ok for a PP to say that the advice I'd given was spouting bollocks but not for me to ask Where has anyone 'spouted bollocks'? Lovely approach to discussion by the way
And point out the flaws in her argument. Oh yeah I can see how you interpreted that as me 'getting het up'. and warranted pages of ongoing attack....

I question whether some of the advice is a bit dated and you take personal offence. Cue lots of posts that I must be rigid, need to read more, and when I call you out on it, more posts about being bullied etc.

You asked that question in a post that responded directly to advice I'd given. If you weren't questioning my advice, which advice specifically was it that you were concerned was dated? I also never said that you must be rigid. I suggested that you might want to consider a less rigid approach with your puppy than you are with your viewpoint about handfeeding being a training technique in and of itself,

I hadn't realised that suggesting a less rigid approach was something you'd choose to take such offence to. Seems a weird thing to get het up over to me.

It’s exhausting with you.
And apparently also bitchy, moody and snidey. Despite you having no examples of that. I appreciate it must be tiring to keep trying to justify your unpleasantness though.

I still don’t understand why you even phrased the hand feeding as one of enrichment.

Because I didn't. Let's face it though this isn't the first time you've struggled with comprehension on this thread. Pretty much everything you've accused me of saying to try and justify your own behaviour, I haven't actually said.

Like I said before, maybe try actually reading what I wrote rather than spending your energy derailing your own thread with squabbling and name calling.

Do you think I plan on doing no interaction with my dog other than hand feeding it? That I don’t want to walk it, play with it, cuddle it?

No. And I never suggested any of that so that's a weird leap