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Off-lead walking

47 replies

WhyOhWine · 05/02/2021 11:03

There are a couple of places near us where walking dogs off lead is pretty common. Ours has good recall so we let him off lead when in these places and he loves it. most dogs I see off lead seem to stay pretty close to their owners, subject to the occasional run around with another dog.
Since ours has hit teenager age, however, when he is off lead he does not always stay particularly close to us. For example, if we are walking in a wooded area, we will be on the path and he will go off running through the trees jumping over branches etc (and probably chasing the odd squirrel) so we can't always see him. He does still come back when called although we are not always sure whether he will appear on the path in front or behind us.
We have been happy to let him do this (in areas we know are safe, e.g. he could not get out onto a road) as he really seems to be enjoying himself (and people often remark on how happy he looks), so we only call him back to check in from time to time rather than making sure he is always right by us.
However, I very rarely see other dogs doing this, so I am now wondering belatedly if we should in fact be training him to stay closer to us more constantly, e.g. by recalling him very frequently.

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Hoppinggreen · 05/02/2021 11:05

I do let mine off lead where safe but I do prefer to still be able to see him.
It’s pretty easy though as he’s pretty lazy so doesn’t go far
I think you have to do whatever you feel is safe and you are comfortable with

RogersVideo · 05/02/2021 11:12

I have an irish setter and when off lead she has a very wide roam. It's just what she naturally does; I don't worry about it as she checks in regularly, though like you I've noticed most other dogs stick closer to their owner.

sunflowersandbuttercups · 05/02/2021 11:12

I wouldn't let mine out of my sight, and as a dog walker if a dog ran about like you described (disappearing from view regularly) they wouldn't be walked off-lead.

For me, it's a safety issue - both his safety and the safety of other dogs and people. If he's out of your sight, you don't know what he's doing. He could be eating something dangerous, running off on a scent, pestering another dog or person, chasing a bike or jogger - all sorts. And it only takes a few seconds for them to disappear out of earshot.

I wouldn't be happy if I was walking through a forest and an unknown, loose dog was running around me. I love dogs but I don't know it's temperament, where the owner is etc. And not everyone loves dogs either - you don't want him to end up pestering or following the wrong person.

drinkingwineoutofamug · 05/02/2021 11:16

Mine does this in safe areas. But she comes back to me to check I'm still about. If she's happy I'm happy.
Going walks around the estate though and play park always on lead.
It really seems dogs can't be dogs these days and not allowed to do what dogs do. Ie woof, growl , play with other dogs.
Dogs have feelings, personalities which people want to train out of them to be dog robots .

Amanda0878 · 05/02/2021 11:27

Just curious as I don't have a dog. How do you know if they go to the toilet when running around like this. I saw a woman doing this in a local park and because the dog was behind her she didn't notice when it pooed on the grass surrounded by children running around on said grass.

drinkingwineoutofamug · 05/02/2021 11:30

It's not just dogs that shit in the woods.
In play parks you should keep dog on lead. But that's my opinion.
But saying that if dog goes to the toilet on a path in the woods I will bag it up.

sillysmiles · 05/02/2021 15:17

For me that would be totally fine if you are ok with it. Personally I'd call him back every so often and treat or high praise for coming back and touch his collar and then let him off again. So that he gets into the habit of coming back and that coming back does not mean going back on the lead.
Our guy doesn't like being out of our sight because wen out of our sight he becomes "deaf" to being called. So we trained him to keep us in his sight. In the forest we used to hide from him if he's being a brat and he'd get a fright and come looking for us!

persistentwoman · 05/02/2021 17:22

WhyOhWine
I have had the same dilemma. A young dog who loves running and heads off into the woods, leaping logs and enjoying the speed and the freedom. He always came back but I could see that he was starting to go further and further away - sometimes being out of sight for up to 5 minutes. I reluctantly decided that this wasn't safe for him so stopped it. I now keep him on the extended lead through the woods but make sure that I take him onto open fields with a ball thrower. He has become quite obsessed with chasing the ball and he speeds after it using lots of energy. He doesn't seem to miss the woods and we walk home with him quite exhausted. It's also improved his recall and he spends much less time rushing over to greet strangers and other dogs with me calling after him. While part of this is maturity, if I've got the ball in my hand (always have a spare in my pocket) he's much more focused on me now.
I suspect that eventually he'll wander along near me calmly and he can be off the lead in the woods as well but not until he's older and calmer.

JayAlfredPrufrock · 05/02/2021 17:24

Spaniel by any chance?

LST · 05/02/2021 17:27

I have a collie and he likes walking ahead if us but I wouldn't let him out of sight. He likes to run around us and herd us. If we are near other people he walks to heel.

SJaneS49 · 05/02/2021 17:31

DDog does this - I think it’s just a question of using common sense. We live rurally, if there are other dogs in a field I generally keep her on lead until I’ve scoped them out a bit. She does race around in woods (only let off if I can’t see anyone) but I call her back pretty regularly. After she once got stuck in a load of thorn bushes in which she was trapped and I couldn’t see her, I don’t like to go long without seeing her.

Chasingsquirrels · 05/02/2021 17:34

@JayAlfredPrufrock

Spaniel by any chance?
Lol. My spaniel would be like this, except he wouldn't come back. Little sod.
JayAlfredPrufrock · 05/02/2021 18:01

Mine goes a long way. In a big loop.

Unless someone is throwing a ball/stick then he doesn’t come back.

DogsSausages · 05/02/2021 18:05

Mine went off lead in long grass and came back with ticks and a cut paw

TheChip · 05/02/2021 18:07

I dont let mine out of my sight, and thankfully they don't let me out of theirs. I'd be far too worried incase they had an accident and injured themselves and I did not know what had happened because I couldn't see them. Or if another dog approached them and they got into a fight or what have you

ArcherDog · 05/02/2021 18:07

As long as you know he isn’t going to be a nuisance to others then this would be fine for me.

Ariela · 05/02/2021 18:12

I absolutely hate the fact that the vast majority of people do not train their dogs to recall. So when 'something more interesting happens' they do not go back to their owner.
I would take your dog out hungry before feeding and feed dry food as treats for coming back to reinforce the message.

Also please never ever have your dog off lead on the road. Saw a white something-poo with no sense of recall (or deaf perhaps? Owners were yelling) almost get squished by white van man today.

Our current collie will not come back 100% of the time - so she is never off the lead other than in our own contained area.

JayAlfredPrufrock · 05/02/2021 18:14

🙄

sunflowersandbuttercups · 05/02/2021 18:15

@ArcherDog

As long as you know he isn’t going to be a nuisance to others then this would be fine for me.
But if the dog is out of your sight, how on earth can you know what they're doing and whether they're pestering anyone?

I hate it when I see dogs running loose with no owner in sight. Ultimately if something happens to your dog (they get injured, get into a fight or cause an accident), the owners will be at fault for not having control over their dog.

ArcherDog · 05/02/2021 18:19

@sunflowersandbuttercups
You should know what your dog is like.
Some dogs completely ignore other people and other dogs.

Al77 · 05/02/2021 18:27

Re: the dog poo and not seeing it thing. I usually keep mine close on an extender until he has been in the morning, then let him have a bit more freedom. It's possible I have missed an occasional one so I always pick up obvious path blockers left by other dogs. I think I am in karmic poo credit.

Chasingsquirrels · 05/02/2021 18:32

I have tried and tried and tried with recall.
He knows, and he ignores.
Totally and utterly has a mind of his own and only does what I want when it coincides with what he wants.
He doesn't seem overly bothered where I am.
He is also quite scared of dogs he doesn't know and if approached would run away (rather than back to me).

So he doesn't go off lead, which is a shame and the reason I persist with recall training despite feeling it is utterly pointless.

lljkk · 05/02/2021 18:34

re dog mess... the one I walk is predictable. She drops a big load 3-5 minutes after leaving home, next biggest load about 5 minutes after that. It's not that nothing ever follows, but anything 3rd or later time on the walk is probably not possible to bag & tiny in volume.

I kind of assume most dogs are fairly reliable about when/how they go, but you see people oblivious to their dogs dropping a mountain... which puzzles me. I mean, you should be ready for it to happen, with dog you know well, no??

sunflowersandbuttercups · 05/02/2021 18:59

[quote ArcherDog]@sunflowersandbuttercups
You should know what your dog is like.
Some dogs completely ignore other people and other dogs.[/quote]
Yep. Until they don't.

Every single dog who has run up to me/my dog is followed by an owner shouting "sorry! He's friendly/has never done that before!".

Letting your dog off-lead and out of your sight isn't safe imo.

TheChip · 05/02/2021 19:01

I hate the owners who shout "dont worry he is friendly" as its bounding over to me and my dogs. Their face when I shout "mine is not" is a picture, and I'd probably enjoy it (their horror) if I wasn't stuck with the task of trying to keep their dog safe.