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Best breed with kids

102 replies

Christmasfairy2020 · 29/01/2021 18:48

Hi
I have not owned a dog before. My mum always has had dogs. I really want a puppy since there are 0 rescue dogs around here. I had kids aged 11 and 6 whom love dogs. We have an elderly cat. I'm unsure of breeds I was thinking dalmation as a friend has one. What are your thoughts as I'm literally a novice. I want a mid size dog that likes to walk

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Christmasfairy2020 · 30/01/2021 09:21

Thank-you London mummy. Yes my cat was a rescue cat originally she was 1 when we got her
She is 12 now. I think I was thinking of a dog for the companionship as well as the kids loving dogs. But as we both work so I just cannot commit to 2 hour works twice per day as otherwise the dog would probably end up moving in with the mother lol. Thanks everyone xx

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Ylvamoon · 30/01/2021 09:26

Not read the whole thread...

What about a Whippet? We had them growing up and they are lovely couch potatoes. They do need some walking/ running as they have short bursts of energy.

On the down side, they are a bit "boring" as doing tricks or play fetch is not their forte! (But I do know of one pure breed that is ace at flyball- so it can be done!)

InTheNightWeWillWish · 30/01/2021 09:35

We have MN’s most hated, a cockapoo, and MN’s most loved, a labrador puppy. Because of pup we are on 2x 30 minute walks a day, which is enough for the cockapoo but she also likes to go and go and go. We’ve kept our dog walker on during lockdown (which I would recommend anyway as it can be great socialisation for them) and yesterday the cockapoo was out for 3 hours with the dog walker (dog walker’s choice, not because she was under exercised). We’ve always done other things with our dogs, other than just walking them endlessly for hours to tire them out. During the week, if we walk the dogs they don’t go off lead either. At the minutes we are doing days with the dog walker - they’ll have a 40 minute run and a 25 min on lead walk. Non-dog walker days they have 2x 30 min walks on lead. Weekends they might have a longer walk but pup and lockdown are limiting factors at weekends now.

Outside of walks, we do some form of obedience every day. Sometimes it might be 10 minutes over the course of the day, sometimes it’s a bigger blocks of 20 minutes a couple of times a day. We play with our dogs. We do food exercises, scattering their food and making them sniff it out. We do scentwork. Before lockdown we would do flyball.

The labrador hasn’t really been road tested yet due to lockdown but the cockapoo is happy with 1x 40 minute walk but also happy walking for 8 hours a day. Neither of my dog are overweight. We go to dog training which does high energy activities such as agility. Dog training is really strict on the weight of dogs, if any dog is overweight they will not be allowed to use the agility equipment for risk of hurting themselves. The vets have always said both dogs have a lovely shape, are lean and aren’t concerned with their weight or activity levels. My dogs enjoy their walks but it’s not their only highlight of their day. Both dogs love the 10 minutes running in the garden chasing a football with DH. Lab particularly likes his 10 minutes of an evening parading around with his half chewed bone proudly showing it to everyone. His 15 minutes scouting for any dropped food after dinner is another highlight of his day.

We know a few cockapoos and none are neurotic. Ours is stubborn. None of the other cockapoos we know are stubborn, the attitude is just part of her temperament. We did have to work harder at training than other people we know with cockapoos. But someone we know with two labs had to work harder training the second because he was considerably slower on the uptake than her first lab. Individual temperaments of dogs is always going to play a role. We worked hard with training with the cockapoo and she is now one of the best behaved dogs we see when out and about. Although, if you do get any kind of cross breed and post asking for help, MN will tell you all the problems are a result of picking a cross breed rather than saying these are normal puppy problems and this is how you address them. We don’t have kids but our both our dogs love kids, the cockapoo more though. Many breeds are great with kids though. Staffie S also have an awful rep but every single one I’ve met has had a beautiful temperament and been wonderfully well trained. Although the older ones are very stubborn and refuse to admit they’re old now - usually pushing themselves to do the same level of activity they did when they were pups!

sunflowersandbuttercups · 30/01/2021 09:47

@Christmasfairy2020

I think after reading i won't get a dog yet as other than before school runs and lunch break and after work (wfh) I won't be able to provide enough exercise for one. I think I will stick with cats and borrow my mums dog :) thanks mumsnet I'm glad I asked as otherwise I would be none the wiser Grin
I think that's really sensible and a good plan.

Most dogs wouldn't be happy with such little exercise and I think you'd be setting yourself up for a lot of problems.

Juanbablo · 30/01/2021 09:59

We have a Jack Russell. He would just as happily not go for a walk but obviously is better behaved when he's exercised. He gets 2 20 minute walks a day or 1 hour long walk. More at weekends. We have a small garden but he doesn't seem bothered about it, he's tiny so there's still lots of room for zoomies!

He is interested in the cat but mostly they ignore each other. Cat is about twice his size.

Dcs are 13, 10 and 6 and he's very good with them. He loves children and is brilliant with other dogs.

TheOriginalMrsMoss · 30/01/2021 15:10

We have a Retriever. She has an absolutely lovely temperament and a perfect family dog but don't underestimate the amount of exercise and human contact they need.

Even with 4 adults and a 13 yo in the house it can be demanding. I threw the '5 mins per month' rule out of the window a long time ago. She gets around 1.5 to 2 hours walking and in the park every day. We also have a huge garden she has free access to but she loves any form of walking, meeting other dogs and people. One benefit is she has almost always slept through the night (barring foxes making a racket in the garden).

Indecisive12 · 30/01/2021 23:52

Jumping on to ask a question about labs/golden retrievers. Once adult age would you say an hour in the morning and an hour in an evening is enough as a minimum? There’ll likely be a lunchtime walk too and at weekends 5 miles up most likely. Youngest child is 7 and he only walks 5-6 miles currently but daily.

Indecisive12 · 30/01/2021 23:52

Have enclosed garden but not massive.

Thischarmlessgirl · 31/01/2021 17:47

I’ve had Bassets and currently have a mini dachshund who can out walk all of us! They are small but my god have stamina. Both lovely with children, Bassets are very gentle and are super stubborn. Sounds like you’ve made the right choice to wait a bit

Christmasfairy2020 · 31/01/2021 17:54

Yes I'm going to wait. The cat I don't think as well is in perfect health :( so I also think I don't want to scare her. My kids have been on a walk with me today petting (all friendly dogs if owners said it was ok) so they have had some dog therapy Grin the 6 year old is literally a dog lover. But I think will wait for a bit thank-you everyone so much xx

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Christmasfairy2020 · 31/01/2021 18:01

Tbh the cats sort of like a dog anyways. I said to her yesterday you need to be a bit more like a dog and come for a walk. She did all the way to the lake and back lol. She also jumps in the eldest basket when she goes for a bike ride and if kids are outside on back or front (I'm out with them) the cat comes to watch and play with them so I have my very own cat that is like a dog 🐕 lol

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Indoctro · 31/01/2021 19:12

@StealthRoast

We have a 4 month old puppy, a Siberian Husky. We’ve always wanted one and knew that he would need tons of exercise and walking and waited until dd is almost 10, ds is almost 18.

We have a massive garden and a side run for him too for during the night etc and when he was unable to go out ( until he had his second needles plus wait time ) he was a different dog. He absolutely loves being out and meeting other dogs and is so friendly. He’s our first ever dog.

He has 3-4 walks per day including a “main” one where he ends up covered in mud and filth as we take him through woods and a country park. We live on the outskirts of a big city but have some amazing places nearby. Almost everyone we told we were getting him said we were mad etc but he’s the most beautiful character, sleeps and eats like a dream and loves playing with his toys. Huskies are said to be terrible guard dogs as are more likely to lick a burglar than bark at them. He doesn’t tend to bark anyway but howls away in his own little language Grin

You do realised a 4 month old dog should only be getting 20 minutes exercise..?? It's 5 minutes per walk.

You will do damage to this dogs legs doing what you are doing

PugInTheHouse · 31/01/2021 22:20

We have a 4 month old pug. He loves walking in spite of everything we read before getting him. He is full of energy and the loveliest little thing. Bery clever too.

They are not for everyone I get that but they are truly lovely dogs and adore kids, well any people actually. Snuggliest little things but even as adults probably only 3 miles a day is possible if they are fit and healthy.

PugInTheHouse · 31/01/2021 22:22

Also technically pugs don't even need walks as they should be able to get enough exercise indoors but we like to walk ours as he loves it.

Snaplittledragon · 31/01/2021 22:30

but even as adults probably only 3 miles a day is possible if they are fit and healthy
Also technically pugs don't even need walks as they should be able to get enough exercise indoors
Healthy indeed Hmm
If ever there was a reason not to continue breeding these dogs, that above quote is it.
Absolutely disgusting.

yearinyearout · 31/01/2021 22:39

most important for us is keeping her mentally stimulated as we go by a '5 minute per month of life' walk a day to ensure she has low risk of developing dysplasia

From six months old you can increase to much longer walks (not overnight obviously)

PugInTheHouse · 31/01/2021 23:03

Snaplittledragon totally unnecessary comment. That was a generalisation, there are many pugs who live to over 14 years old and walk many miles easily, the same can't be said for many other breeds. They can have a lot less health issues than many other dogs who are considered onto have. I know several friends who have pugs with no issues with their health their entire lives.

Snaplittledragon · 31/01/2021 23:39

Really really not.
An awful lot of people would like to see an end to their breeding.
Along with British bulldogs.
Most of them have severe BOAS.
You said yourself they can’t manage more than 3 miles and don’t actually need exercise.
That in itself is an absolutely shocking statement.
They snore (because of BOAS)
The tail puts them at risk of spinal issues.
It is utterly unethical breeding them.

Ihaventgottimeforthis · 31/01/2021 23:49

My staffy lurcher likes a couple of hours walking a day, including one first thing in the morning, which my DC, as much as they LOVE him, never come along for 😁
OP I think you've made the right choice - it's hard as my DC love him & really thrive with a pet, but they also got nearly as much joy from my DP's dogs, so maybe just find a friend or family member with a nice dog, and hang out with them loads 😉

PugInTheHouse · 01/02/2021 05:58

Most of them do not have BOAS at all, thats utter bullshit. Some of them do but many dogs have health issues related to their breed. A lot of pugs health issues are down to owners over feeding and not exercising them. You have also twisted what i said but whatever if that suits your argument. Im not saying there are not issues as of course there can be but you are hugely exaggerating them.

Although in not actually sure why I'm even engaging with such nasty comments.

PugInTheHouse · 01/02/2021 06:04

I meant most don't have severe BOAS.

Snaplittledragon · 01/02/2021 08:34

@PugInTheHouse is that why the Kennel Club found that 50% have severe breathing problems..?
They claim only 15% of pugs breathe like a ‘normal’ non brachycephalic dog.

Other research found that the percentage of pugs with BOAS was higher than French bulldogs and British Bulldogs.

Yet more research suggests that ALL brachycephalic dogs have BOAS to some degree.

It is not being ‘horrible’ to speak out against the promotion and breeding of deformed animals unable to breathe properly.

PugInTheHouse · 01/02/2021 09:08

I do understand what you are saying @Snaplittledragon however not one of the pugs in real life we have contact with have breathing problems so perhaps thats just luck then, the oldest one is 16, I firmly believe many pugs are not looked after properly and are allowed to get overweight, this is proven to be a big issue in their breathing problems. They are greedy and it takes discipline. My friend was a vet assistant and said in her experience the pugs they saw had less issues than the other brachycephalic dogs they saw but I appreciate that is only a small number at one vets and not really representative.

I am not a breeder and never intend to be. Our pup is here now, we adore him and will do our best for him by keeping him a healthy weight and well exercised. He comes from a background of no BOAS issues at all (yes I get it is stated they all have some), we know the parents and grandparents, both the older dogs are 14 now and never had any problems so that's the best we feel we could have done to ensure we were getting a dog who can have an amazing healthy life. He is only 4 months but isn't particularly snuffly, only snores as hes dropping off (like many non brachycephalic dogs) and walks the same amount of time as all pups his age.

I do understand that you are coming from a well meaning point of view, I took offence by the way your first post was worded as it felt like a personal attack, it may well have been but I shouldn't have bitten.

blowinahoolie · 01/02/2021 10:29

It's easy to take it personally, but I think snap has made many valid points. Just like it would be fair to point out flaws of any pedigree. The breathing issues can really impact on quality of life. Not to be underestimated. It would put me off buying a boxer or similar breed.

TheVanguardSix · 01/02/2021 10:50

Good idea to wait, OP.
It sounds like the timing isn't right yet, but it will be at a certain point. And in the meantime, you can really research dogs and their temperaments and good dogs for first time owners, all of that.