BBC will my puppies make me rich.

[icedaisy]

Help sought here please. For completeness I am an assured breeder. I have posted repeatedly about ridiculous prices. I breed for the love of the breed only and have not increased prices and have indeed stopped breeding due to assessment at present.

BBC have funded this programme which is said to be a launchpad for new talent.

It will look at people seeking to launch new designer breeds as a result of facing job losses.

I have spoken to kennel club and emailed BBC. I thought I would bring it to the attention of the many reputable breeders and indeed dog lovers on this forum. I would be grateful if anyone would be minded to complain to BBC as well.

I am useless at links but if you google my title it's the first result.

I am utterly disgusted at this being funded.

Thank you.

Bathing Dd now but be back later to rant more!

That is absolutely disgusting.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/mediacentre/2020/will-my-puppies-make-me-rich link

Thank you @somethinginthewater I always end up with massive stupid links. Plus I'm so angry.

Is it not just going to record the experiences of people who are starting off breeding businesses? It says it is going to address good and bad breeding practices.
If you agree with breeding dogs which you obviously do as you are a dog breeder why do you not agree with other people breeding dogs? Is it because they are going to be breeding cross breeds? Some consider this irresponsible. Others consider breeding pedigree dogs to be irresponsible as that artificially restricts the gene pool and causes health problems and anatomical features that can make life very difficult for the dogs. It is an interesting debate and I would like to watch the program if it looks at these sorts of issues.

I have no issue with other people breeding dogs responsibly.

I have no issue with cross breeds and indeed have two on farm alongside my own.

I have an issue with designer breeds, and the use of the word designer.

I have an issue with inflated prices being glorified.

I have an issue with make me rich.

I have an issue with ensuring responsible breeding being placed forefront at all times regardless of who is doing it.

A programme to debate the points you raise about the various breeds I would have no issue with.

The write up says these people will be learning the ropes to capitalise on the demand for designer dogs. This seems, to me, to be promoting or supporting further breeding in a dangerous market.

I owned dogs for 30 years before ever breeding a litter. You will have seen posts here when people who own dogs as pets say they are considering a litter once and the comments those gather.

The entire thing just sits uncomfortably with me and my beliefs.

Perhaps I am wrong and it will focus more as you say but I'm only going from my own thoughts, and those of other breed clubs and groups I am part of. For those reasons I thought it may also shock the many knowledgeable people here.

I agree the title is terrible and could do with changing.

Morally, I see little difference between people who use their family pet to breed a litter and people who breed regularly with dogs aquired for the purpose. It's a matter of scale.

I agree you should have a knowledge of dogs before attempting to breed them but had assumed these people would have a knowledge of dogs if they are hoping to start such a business and would be educating themselves further in preparation.

It could well show them to be outrageous and unfit to care for dogs. It may be more useful if it does as it will highlight to people how important it is to be comfortable with the origins of your dog and the importance of canine welfare.

I don't know that trying to stop the film being made is a good move as they will probably go ahead with their business plan anyway and exposing their bad practice, if there is any, is not necessarily a bad thing.

Breeders have to start somewhere. The title is to grab attention.

What is the problem with pet owners allowing their pet to have one litter? If the parents are health checked. I have a male dog so it isn’t an issue for me.

My dog was bred by an inexperienced breeder, but since that was years ago, the breeder is now more experienced. She loves her dogs and cares for them in her family home. They are very happy family pets, all of them, and she would take any of her puppies back at any time. Her kids adored my dog and he had a fantastic start to life with them. I see them occasionally still and my dog sees his mummy and sister dogs, which he really loves.

It may be the case that when people go back to offices etc that there will be dog related problems. But other than that, I do not understand the problems.

@ekidmxcl

Breeders have to start somewhere. The title is to grab attention.

What is the problem with pet owners allowing their pet to have one litter? If the parents are health checked. I have a male dog so it isn’t an issue for me.

My dog was bred by an inexperienced breeder, but since that was years ago, the breeder is now more experienced. She loves her dogs and cares for them in her family home. They are very happy family pets, all of them, and she would take any of her puppies back at any time. Her kids adored my dog and he had a fantastic start to life with them. I see them occasionally still and my dog sees his mummy and sister dogs, which he really loves.

It may be the case that when people go back to offices etc that there will be dog related problems. But other than that, I do not understand the problems.

"What is the problem with pet owners allowing their pet to have one litter? If the parents are health checked. I have a male dog so it isn’t an issue for me."

Often the pets are health checked but NOT health tested. All those breed tests i.e. for hips, eyes etc. Those cost money and those breeding "just one litter" may not even know they need to do these tests. They may not have any details on the parentage of their dogs.

We'd like to think everyone will at least do a basic google on what they need, but they definitely don't. Especially now, when even a mongrel can go for thousands.

The BVA ( British veterinary association) has written the BBC requesting input to emphasis the importance of health checks and ensuring that the pup is born into the correct environment.
The veterinary profession is upset about it, but if allowed want to make a contribution to show the correct way to obtain a puppy.

I thinks it's disgusting making a programme about how to get rich quick by using animals.

There is now a petition trying to stop them:

https://www.change.org/p/bbc-stop-the-bbc-producing-new-program-will-my-puppies-make-me-rich?recruiter=10202903&utmsource=shareepetition&utmmedium=twitter&utmmcampaign=psfcombooshareinitial&utmmterm=psfcombooshareinitial&recruiteddby_id=396e81b0-de78-012f-cfd3-40406f61fb41

Often the pets are health checked but NOT health tested. All those breed tests i.e. for hips, eyes etc. Those cost money and those breeding "just one litter" may not even know they need to do these tests
So let's educate rather than saying they shouldn't do it all.

Any owner wanted to breed should act responsibly and do research into it. If they do, then they can't be criticized for starting something that others do regularly.

I'm with you @icedaisy. Goodness knows we don't need more puppies with health issues from backyard breeders.
I think the trouble with a tv programme with this title is it will encourage people who hadn't previously thought of breeding to think that's it's easy money.

This show highlights all of the wrong reasons to breed a dog, it shouldn't be done for a quick buck or to make you rich.

You should put proper consideration into breeding from your dogs, thorough health testing should have happened, their temperaments of the parents should be checked and you should have a good idea of the best way to raise and socialise a litter.

A good breeder will dedicated hundreds of hours of their time into research, and then the actual practical caring for a litter. Taking this into account with the cost of vet fees, supplies and food very few good breeders make a profit on their litters.

Also a good breeder will offer a lifetime bring back of any puppy they bred so they avoid going into rescue. So this also needs to be factored into the cost.

The BBC has been ridiculous in allowing this show to be made when they pulled out of Crufts, when this show will just promote breeding unhealthy puppies.

www.change.org/p/bbc-stop-the-bbc-producing-new-program-will-my-puppies-make-me-rich?recruiter=false&utm_source=share_petition&utm_medium=facebook&utm_campaign=psf_combo_share_initial&utm_term=psf_combo_share_initial&recruited_by_id=ed7a09e0-3a68-11eb-88c5-1d4e163340b1&utm_content=fht-26216484-en-gb%3A0

I'm hoping the title is deliberately misleading and it's really about undermining that mindset?

Statement fro the BBC

here

Glad they've changed title at least.