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Recall advice please!

19 replies

newname81 · 11/10/2020 20:52

Just after a bit of advice really, we have a Labrador who will be a year old in a few weeks, when he was a puppy his recall was brilliant, we used a whistle if he got distracted and just his name & come worked well otherwise.
He's a very energetic dog, very social, loves to go up to every single other dog he sees and have a sniff and try to play with them even if they don't want to. He can be very persistent and I sometimes have to put him on the lead and take him away. If I see other dogs on a lead I will put him on his lead so he doesn't run up to them in case they're nervous/temperamental etc.
Sometimes he will bolt across a large field when he sees certain dogs and he will not listen to my voice or the whistle. When I see these dogs I put him on his lead as I'm heavily pregnant and can't go running after him. But what can I do to improve his recall? Is it his 'adolescent phase' and will it just get better if I keep doing what I'm doing - saying his name and come, come in an excited voice & giving him a piece of sausage if he does, putting him on the lead if I think he might run off to another dog?
I worry that I'm getting it wrong, setting us up to fail and that we will have a dog with awful recall. Some days he's an angel and will come back even when distracted every time I call, others he will ignore me completely.

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SBTLove · 11/10/2020 20:54

loves to go up to every single other dog he sees and have a sniff and try to play with them even if they don't want to
Please keep him on lead, most dog owners hate this, I do. Unless your dog has solid recall do not let him off at all.

Wolfiefan · 11/10/2020 20:55

I worked my way through Total Recall. Brilliant book.

Shouldershrugger · 11/10/2020 20:57

Im watching this thread very closely. I have to keep my pug on the lead. His recall is awful. The minute he sees other dogs, he bolts. I've seen the training method on tv and online but it doesn't seem to work for my dog.

Wolfiefan · 11/10/2020 20:58

@Shouldershrugger that book is ace. And for little dogs a harness and long line means they can’t bolt!!

AmazingAardvark · 11/10/2020 21:30

I think it’s common for them to regress in adolescence. It sounds like you are doing the right things but as an overexcited teenager, seeing other dogs is more exciting than the treat right now. If you are pregnant and will soon be bring a baby out on walks, recall is going to be so important, so think you are right to do everything you can to install good habits now!
Agree with PP that you might need to keep him on the lead for now when other dogs are around - or use a long lead/lunge line. Concentrate on getting him more engaged with you and less interested in other dogs out on walks, and practice recall only when you are 99% sure he will listen. The idea is to manage things so he doesn’t get a chance to ‘fail’. Every time you call him and he doesn’t recall, its weakening that training. If he’s already got used to ignoring one command, it might be easier to start again with a new one (we had to do this with our dog!).
Another reason to keep him on the lead around other dogs for now - as a PP said, a lot of dogs don’t like being pestered and jumped all over, and this might cause problems with their training (my nervous dog started barking at dogs of a certain breed after one bowled her over and accidentally hurt her, and it took months of training to get her to stop).

Notapheasantplucker · 11/10/2020 21:47

Do you have anything which he finds tastier than sausage?
Keep doing what you're doing but with an even tastier treat if you can. But only give him that specific treat when you're out and you need to call him back. Don't give him the treat at home or anywhere else. The deal is, he comes back, he gets the tastiest treat ever Grin

My dog likes sprats and that was what we used to train recall.

newname81 · 12/10/2020 07:12

@SBTLove

loves to go up to every single other dog he sees and have a sniff and try to play with them even if they don't want to Please keep him on lead, most dog owners hate this, I do. Unless your dog has solid recall do not let him off at all.
How would I go about improving his recall if he's always on the lead? Genuine question not being sarcastic!
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newname81 · 12/10/2020 07:15

@Notapheasantplucker sausage is very new for him so he's very excited about it, he can't keep his nose out of the treat bag!

I'm going to order that book today & look at a long line, I wasn't sure if a long line would be any good as he's so big? He's over 30kg now, I currently use quite a short lead so I can have him close to me when he's on the lead but would definitely look at getting a long one if it would help!

Our walk this morning was quite successful, I put him on the lead 3 times each when I saw other dogs I knew he would run over to (ones we don't know, small puppies etc). He was very interested in the sausage pieces I had so I'm hoping that will help!

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newname81 · 12/10/2020 07:15

Sorry to be constantly asking questions, is there anything I can do at home to help him improve?

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BiteyShark · 12/10/2020 07:16

How would I go about improving his recall if he's always on the lead? Genuine question not being sarcastic!

I changed where I was walking. I drove 20-30 mins away so I could walk in places where I would either see no one or could easily see them before my dog could so I was able to change direction.

I appreciate I am lucky where I live but this meant he wasn't rewarded by running up to dogs and I could focus on recall all the time.

Once I was confident, after several months, I walked where there were dogs and he wasn't bothered by them anymore because we had worked on ME being exciting. That's the key thing on recall. I stopped walking and engaged with him so we played together on walks (chasing balls, hunting balls, hide and seek, randomly walking and running away from him).

newname81 · 12/10/2020 07:19

@BiteyShark my husband has mentioned somewhere he takes him where he rarely sees other dogs so I will definitely give this a go!
There's a small field across the road that is a lot less busy that I can try and once the baby comes and I'm back to running I'll be running with him which he loves!
Thank you Smile

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yearinyearout · 12/10/2020 07:23

You could try using a whistle when you feed him at home, so he has a strong whistle/food association. This should remind him that there is tasty sausage for him when he comes back.

pilates · 12/10/2020 07:23

It’s very hard when you have a friendly sociable dog and great that you have a dog with a friendly disposition. I have heard the book total recall highly recommended on here. It’s funny how some dogs are just not interested in others and literally just walk by without a glance.

Jeremyironseverything · 12/10/2020 07:27

Ours got better when he was neutered.

dontdisturbmenow · 12/10/2020 08:26

Please keep him on lead, most dog owners hate this, I do
Just to say that this not my experience and that in my world, those who do have an issue with it are the minority.

Not that you shouldn't put the effort in continuing to teach your dog to come back to you when called, but don't freak out assuming that every dog owner will be pissed off. I have a small dog and he doesn't mind if a gentle giant comes to him.

Most dogs in the lead are because they themselves don't have good recall rather than being anxious.

Still important to get this sorted for those who are so.

PollyRoulson · 12/10/2020 08:44

@newname81

Sorry to be constantly asking questions, is there anything I can do at home to help him improve?
Yes absolutely yes.

Recall training should start in the house in a boring location with no distractions.

It is unreasonable to expect the dog to understand and come to recall out and about with all the distractions if he can not do it in a calm boring environment.

1.Throw a piece of his food across the floor, let him eat it and call him back to you where he gets more tasty food from you, then again throw the food out let him eat it and call him back to you. This game can get faster and faster and he should soon be whipping his head back to you as soon as he has eaten the treat to get back to you.

Move this game out into the garden when he is awesome at it.

  1. Have him on a lead and get him moving around then run in one direction calling his name he should happily chase after you and reward when he has run to catch up with you.
  1. Teach a hand touch - many dogs find it more fun to run up to you for a hand touch than a basic recall.

There are more but I a dashing out.

ruthieness · 13/10/2020 20:30

We always gave the dog a treat when he went on the lead and now, as soon as he sees the lead he runs to us! We started this at home - getting lead out = calling him - put him on lead - give treat - release - repeat every 10 minutes. It becomes a reflex for the dog to run to the lead!

Gibble1 · 13/10/2020 20:42

If our dogs start getting a little sloppy with their recall, we will play hide and seek with them at home and then make our next few walks up the woods and play hide and seek. They love it. Have you ever seen a dog laughing 😆

Funf · 14/10/2020 19:47

Cheese is our secret weapon

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