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If you're worried about your pet's health, please speak to a vet or qualified professional.

Vets and vet nurses what's your opinion?

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DandelionWars · 21/07/2020 20:07

My dog has allergies. Trigger unknown. He was previously under a vet in a different town and has had a special shampoo and steroid cream on repeat prescription to treat hot spots and keep his skin soothed. This worked great all of his until we moved towns and to a house with a garden. Last summer his skin was horrendous and his left ear was sticky and weepy. I took him to a local vet. Hundreds and hundreds of pounds later and various failed treatments we found a combination of allergy tablets and shampoo that worked. He stops itching in the winter so I took him off the tablets.

Summer rolls around again and his ear turns black and weepy and his skin flares up. I've been trying to get him in the vets for this and a broken dew claw since the start of june/end of May. They insisted it was not an emergency and they would not see him until today, obviously since he's been without his medication since the start of June his skin looks terrible.

We saw a different vet who diagnosed chronic dermatitis and chronic ear infection. I agree with the dermatitis diagnosis. He's had dermatitis (which to me means allergies?) since he was a puppy. The ear gunk, ime, is caused by his allergy not an infection but if they want to clean and give him antibiotics I'm willing to pay for that, although we tried that last year and it just kept reoccurring until we tried the allergy tablets. It did reduce the symptoms while he was on them so I'm happy to pay for them. This vet also wanted to give him antibiotic injections, steroid creams and take him to do a special wash on his skin. All unnecessary, imo but I'm sure it will calm the symptoms while he's on the steroids so again I'm wling to pay.

My issue is that he needs sedation for his dew claw treatment which means it needs to be an am appointment. I work for an agency swamped due to covid. We can't get time off without giving two weeks notice. There is no one else to deliver the dog to the vet at 8am so he will have to wait until August when I have time off booked. Its not ideal, I know but honestly, his dew claw is not bothering him much. He rarely looks at it. If it was bothering him I would call in sick to take him. I've booked the appointment for the 5th of August.

My issue is that his skin is bothering him a lot. He is really suffering and this new vet is refisimg to treat his skin until his dew claw is done. The treatments he's suggested cost £250+ for the initial treatment plus ongoing costs for the steroid injections and skin washing. Im very unhappy with the cost when I know the shampoo and allergy tablets he had last year are far cheaper and far more effective but I'm livid that they're willing to let him continue suffering even now they've finally agreed to see him. He's not registered at any other vets so I can't get a second opinion. Is it right that they leave his skin and ear treatment until I can take him for his dew claw? What options do I have? The vets reasoning is that his dew claw is the most serious issue and needs treatment first. He would not believe that his skin and ear bothers him more. I feel terrible for the poor dog. He is in pain and he is uncomfortable and there's nothing I can do for him until August. I can't afford to pay £250+ plus weekly injections while calling in sick every week.

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Barryisland · 21/07/2020 23:54

I think you need to find a way to get the dog to the vets for a morning appointment to sort the dew claw. The vet wouldnt have suggested it if it wasnt needed. If you really cant get time off work do you have a relative that could do it or pay a Dog walker to transport ?

DandelionWars · 22/07/2020 00:16

There is no-one else. They want him to wear a cloth muzzle so it would have to be put on when he gets there because they're quite dangerous and there is no-one else who would be able to muzzle him. He's trained to let me muzzle him, I never thought he'd need anyone else to muzzle him. The only family I have close-by is my mum who is scared of him and my ex who the dog is scared of. There's no way in hell my mum would muzzle him or that the dog would let the ex muzzle him.

I might have a plan B. The ex has said I can register him where he takes his dog by saying my dog belongs to and lives with him. Apparently you need to have an animal registered with them to be seen by them not the animal that you are making the appointment for. And you are allowed inside that vet so they may agree to look at his dew claw without sedation. He'll let anyone do anything to him as long as I am with him. I'm going to phone them tomorrow.

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DandelionWars · 22/07/2020 00:35

And why does it have to be an 8am appointment? I know for sedation they have to have an empty stomach but when I explained the work situation why did they not suggest a 5am breakfast and a 5pm appointment for sedation rather than allowing him to suffer?

The more I think about it, the more I am annoyed. Nothing was explained to me other than money. He refused to explain why he thought the previous medication would not work. He didn't offer to explain what this new treatment plan was or why it would work better than his previous one. I don't even know what the injections he wants to give him are called. I only know it is a minimum of £250 for the initial appointment and upto £100 for subsequent weekly appointments. He was very happy to discuss money and very reluctant to discuss anything else.

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BillBaileysBum · 22/07/2020 00:44

Are you completely sure you can’t change practices? I’ve just changed practices this week and they didn’t bat an eyelid.

BillBaileysBum · 22/07/2020 00:45

Old surgery was full of the type of vet you describe. Drove me mad.

Ugzbugz · 22/07/2020 01:04

Friends dog is technically allergic to herself, yeast infections etc and has to have the apoqual and steroids and literally cooked dinners of rice etc, shes generally been a very poorly dog at huge expense and doesnt always get a lot of respite, very sad

VeggieSausageRoll · 22/07/2020 01:08

I think there may be some miscommunication going on. The weekly sedation for an injection makes no sense. He'd have to be injected with a sedative to begin with, so they may as well just inject him with the ?cytopoint (or immunotherapy or whatever they are planning on using). I also don't understand the relevance of the dew claw in all of this unless they're wanting to do a full skin work up at the same time and his temperament means he needs to be sedated for this, but still doesn't make sense that he has to wait until August.

If give them a call and ask them to go through it again. Get things straight in your mind and then decide what to do.

Tapio · 22/07/2020 01:24

If you’ve been through apoquel and cytopoint I’d try some of the other suggestions. What is he fed?

There are more than just hydrolysed diets, try a different kind for 6 weeks, then a novel protein diet etc.

Tapio · 22/07/2020 01:25

And find a dermatology specialist!

Bananarama12 · 22/07/2020 02:10

Oh I'm glad you can go to a different vets Smile
If you had Apoquel that worked last year then they should just give you the same treatment this year.
They should be more flexible around the sedation times or even try and examine him in the car park with you.
These are difficult times and this is a scared dog thats poorly. I'm really sorry you are having to go through this. Flowers

ruthieness · 22/07/2020 10:03

Miconazale and Clotrimazole are the active ingredient in products prescribed by vets to treat yeast infections. These are available without prescription for human use. You could ask the vet if it is ok to use them, or maybe the vet has prescribed them in the past. Obviously proceed with extreme caution, but this might be useful if the dog has a yeast infection and you cannot get to the vet.

DandelionWars · 22/07/2020 14:04

He has an appointment with the ex's vet on Saturday. They're willing to try to trim his dew claw with me holding him if he's muzzled. He can bring his own muzzle. It does not have to be one of the awful cloth ones. They're also willing to discuss his skin options with me and the pros and cons of various treatment plans. In the meantime he can have half a Piriton a day. I gave him one this morning and the change in him was almost instant. He has not bit himself at all today. I asked about the clomitrazole for his ears. They said if I can find a chemist willing to sell me canesten drops there is no harm in trying it but only 1 to 2 drops per infected ear per day.

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ruthieness · 22/07/2020 14:14

So please to hear that! You can buy the drops online.

www.expresschemist.co.uk/product_8337_canesten-solution-20ml.html#.Xxg7QnuSk2w

Please let us know how you get on?

RoseDog · 22/07/2020 15:27

That sounds more positive, hopefully the new vet will help get him sorted, I've never heard anything like the way the last vet was behaving, especially for an older dog and you know what works for him already!

Sitdowncupoftea · 22/07/2020 17:03

I would phone a few local vets up as i changed practices the other week.

DandelionWars · 25/07/2020 10:26

He's been. He has apoquel back and his shampoo. His dew claw was done then and there and he has a medicated wash for his ear. He has to go back in a few days to check his ear.

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midnightstar66 · 25/07/2020 10:50

Do you have a vet hospital/university practice nearby? They'll have specialist dermatology vets and nurses. I remember assisting a vet with a donkey with allergies and they did a full range of allergy tests so they could make a tailored vaccine. The very had come over from the small animal practice as they didn't have a dermatology section in equine. It was really fascinating. According to him piriton is fairly useless in animals and they don't advise it.

ruthieness · 25/07/2020 13:58

Good to hear that your dog is being treated!

Immunotherapy takes about a year to become effective so you are right there is not much point for a dog aged 14. At least you do not have to worry about the long term side effects of any treatment!

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