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NeverGotMyPuppy · 30/06/2019 16:24

DH and I are thinking we may be soon ready to take the plunge and get a dog. I have wanted a dog for about 25 years (no exaggeration) and I want to get this right.

About us:
I work 3 days a week, DH often WFH. I am a private school teacher so I get a lot of holidays. We would get doggy day care or a dog walker as appropriate.
We have a baby and would like a second within the next 15 months or so. We only plan on 2 children
We have a cat.
We have a three storey large house with a reasonable sized garden. There are parks and woodland very close by.
We are an active family.

My only real concern is shedding - I'm afraid I don't like labs because of the sheer amount of hair. I'm asthmatic- not badly but I could do without having to hoover 20 times a day.

So hit me with suggestions please!

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Hecketyheck · 01/07/2019 11:56

I came on, as usual, to say rescue Greyhound, but see someone has beaten me to it. I would never have considered a greyhound on the basis that I wanted something energetic that I could run with, "pretty" and fluffy. However, I did loads of research before getting our dog and I kept on and on coming back to the retired racer.

They are SO easy in terms of settling (well ours was). Greyhound rescues are much more "lax" about rehoming to homes with children as greyhounds are usually so gentle and tolerant. They are very very lazy and lie around a LOT which means that if you are dealing with children they are not under your feet begging to be entertained. Ours is relatively dense which makes her even easier. I can only speak for ours, but she is calm and calming, enthusiastic for a walk and has done up to 6 miles over the moors with us, crap at jogging, very good at sprinting, exceedingly tolerant of our children and affectionate and we all totally adore her.

DH who was desperate for a spaniel (which I vetoed wholeheartedly on the basis we live in the middle of a city and would never have time or energy to devote to such a high-energy breed) says that he is infinitely glad we got a grey and would never even consider another breed now.

So, my advice would be get a low-energy breed whilst your children are young because however much time you think you will have to exercise a high-energy breed, you really won't. I would also second waiting for a bit until your DC are school-age but I don't want to rain on your parade.

Greyhound22 · 01/07/2019 12:07

Whippet 👍 or lurcher

If you really want a dog go for it. I can tell you will look after it.

MN both hates dogs and doesn't believe anyone should have one unless they have children 8+, don't work etc

Hecketyheck · 01/07/2019 12:41

MN both hates dogs and doesn't believe anyone should have one unless they have children 8+, don't work etc - you do realise you're posting this in the "Doghouse" where most people either have dogs or are thinking of getting them and therefore presumably don't hate them?

NeverGotMyPuppy · 01/07/2019 12:57

@HecketyHeck thanks - unfortunately my parade has had some showers but isn't a complete washout... so im still in 2 minds...

I think we will definitely wait till after we have had DC2. Q is then how long we wait.

I WANT A DOGGY!!!
The easy to train thing is because we are both inexperienced owners. I dont want to get a breed that really needs some experienced expertise.

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IAmAlwaysLikeThis · 01/07/2019 13:01

OP, having never had a dog, you can't understand how much work they are.

With two kids, one a baby...don't do it to yourself.

You're setting yourself up for a really hard time.

Wait til the kids are in school first. It was hard enough for me when I didn't have kids.

Fucksandflowers · 01/07/2019 13:08

I don't think any of the breeds listed on this thread need 'experienced expertise' to be honest, they are all quite handler focussed/biddable though some of them, like the spaniels and collies could be problematic if you don't teach them how to settle and/or overexercise and over stimulate them but I don't think there are any real specialist breeds listed here.

When I think of breeds requiring 'experienced expertise' I think of dogs like livestock guardian breeds and Belgian/Dutch Shepherds, maybe some types of hunting hound.

NeverGotMyPuppy · 01/07/2019 13:14

@fucksandflowers that's good to know and echoes the experiences of friends, who all have spaniels/spaniel crosses bar a lurcher.

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Hecketyheck · 01/07/2019 13:15

We've done no training with ours - other than "wait" which she is really good at her, sit (which is hopeless for a grey as they can only crouch and her butt doesn't touch the floor, but she tries bless her) and the kids ruined her with "paw" - when she "sits" for food now she waves one leg uselessly around in the air.... Her recall is utterly diabolical so we walk her on lead mainly and off-lead only in the enclosed field next to us when she has either a muzzle on or has a ball to distract her (which she is obsessed with). She came to us fully kennel (and therefore by extension house-)trained and walking stunningly on a lead. I had two one-to-one training sessions with her but neither were much cop.

Greyhounds all the way OP! If it's any consolation I waited 34 years for my dog....she was worth the wait. I have never been as excited about anything in my life as the week before we went to get her!

BiteyShark · 01/07/2019 13:15

The easy to train thing is because we are both inexperienced owners. I dont want to get a breed that really needs some experienced expertise.

A few trainers have said it's a good idea to start and continue obedience training for the first year of a dogs life. I think that was good advice as it's not just the puppy months that require consistent training but all through the teenage stubborn period.

I think certain breeds have different challenges so you just have to pick which ones you think would be more problematic for you rather than thinking a particular breed will be easy to train.

NeverGotMyPuppy · 01/07/2019 13:20

HecketyHeck the way you write about your dog is exactly how I want to with mine.

Ok. I guess waiting it is. I dont think it's fair if we both work full time so I suppose it will just be a wait and see thing, hopefully we will be ok on DH's salary and I continue with PT (we should be he earns well, but km aware of how much money 2 kids a cat and a dog could take up!!!)

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Costacoffeeplease · 01/07/2019 13:30

Wait until any/all children are school age and can understand instructions on how to be with a dog, or you’re giving yourself an unbelievable amount of work and stress

woodpigeons · 01/07/2019 13:32

I would never get another border collie. My puppy was great with children, super easy to train as very clever.
We lived in the middle of nowhere, loads of space for her to run around and play, two long walks everyday.
But it wasn’t enough. As she got bigger she wanted to work and in the absence of sheep would escape to the nearest road and attempt to herd cars.
Fortunately a friend was looking for new sheepdog to train. She went to live on his farm and was very happy doing what she was meant to do.
I would second Cavalier King Charles although nowadays they have health problems so must be bought from a reputable breeder.
Mine was the sweetest, kindest dog. Loved children, loved everybody really. Always up for walks but equally happy to hang around with the children or snuggle on the sofa.

onmyholibobs · 01/07/2019 13:52

Another vote for a border terrier. Lovely temperament, don't have many health issues, very loving and loyal, clever and easy to train although can be a bit stubborn and greedy.

Aus84 · 01/07/2019 13:59

Miniature schnauzer

  • smart
  • fun
  • easy to train
  • non shedding
  • fun
  • loving
  • playful
  • snuggly
  • fun

If you choose to get a puppy, whichever breed you decide on, speak with the breeder about your family and expectations. They will have an idea on the puppy's temperament. Don't choose based which you think is the 'cutest', let the breeder match the dog to you. (Although a good breeder may not sell you a pup due to you having a young child)

Cloudtree · 01/07/2019 14:57

Not that I'm trying to influence you by showing you my new puppy but...

Please recommend a dog to us!
NeverGotMyPuppy · 01/07/2019 15:04

Oh heavens.

Look at him!!! (Or her?!)

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Cloudtree · 01/07/2019 15:15

Him. Collecting him this weekend. He's a rough collie

MapleDragon · 01/07/2019 15:16

I think the suggestion of a border collie isn't well thought out. They don't just need loads of physical exercise they need to use their brains. If you don't give them a job they'll fine one and it's generally not one you'd have chosen! They are a high drive herding breed that will chase small shrieking kids and attempt to contain them. All of this can be dealt with but it's a huge commitment to training.

Runkle · 01/07/2019 15:20

Soft coated wheaten terrier. Don't shed, hilarious personality, so friendly, easy to train.

Cloudtree · 01/07/2019 15:23

Mine will be able to rescue the DC from deep wells, run for help when they're trapped on a cliff face and warn the entire village of imminent landslides Wink. Rough collies are apparently much easier than border collies. DS2 wanted a border collie and we managed to move him over to a rough collie.

NeverGotMyPuppy · 01/07/2019 15:24

Ok so thanks to you guys my narrowed down options are:

Border terrier
Wheaton terrier
Working cocker and some have said show cocker
Greyhound

Are Italian Greyhounds of similar temperament?

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NeverGotMyPuppy · 01/07/2019 15:25

Sorry - forgot rough collies

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QuestionableMouse · 01/07/2019 16:10

I currently have a jack Russell and he adores my nephews. He'll lay on the floor and let the kids (both under 3) stroke him and dress him up. He gets walked for about an hour a day but is equally happy to chill on the couch! (especially if it's raining)

The best dog I had was a cavalier king Charles. He was the runt of litter and so tiny but so gentle and loving. He adored kids. He didn't get walks as such because he used to basically come everywhere with us.

Fucksandflowers · 01/07/2019 16:34

I think the suggestion of a border collie isn't well thought out. They don't just need loads of physical exercise they need to use their brains. If you don't give them a job they'll fine one and it's generally not one you'd have chosen! They are a high drive herding breed that will chase small shrieking kids and attempt to contain them. All of this can be dealt with but it's a huge commitment to training

God this makes me so angry!
9 times out of 10 the people who say such things have never even had one yet talk as if it is fact.

They do not need huge amounts of exercise and mental stimulation.
It can actually be really detrimental to them, they overstimulate easily then become stressful and/or destructive.
They relish peace and quiet and calm activities.
Teaching them a solid 'settle' is essential.

About the kids.
It is true that as a herding breed they appreciate peace and quiet, sometimes they get stressed by young children and feel the urge to calm them down/herd them.
Extremely dangerous behaviour to allow.
The answer is not to allow herding behaviour towards people.
Ever.
It is as simple as that.

I used to live rurally where it was mostly elderly people and I can't tell you how many had (working bred, bar one that looked like a show strain) border collies.

I think it highly unlikely that the majority of that demographic were out walking hours, training tricks, doing agility etc.

Where I live currently a few of my neighbours have (working bred) border collies and I have a working bred border collie.

None of dogs get excessive exercise or training, one of my neighbours is an elderly lady!
They are all friendly, mine in particular loves children.

I have had people say before that my collie must be 'low drive' or a 'poor worker' as she doesn't demand massive exercise, she actually couldn't less if we skip a walk, not destructive, doesn't herd/bite children etc.
No.
She is a worker through and through.

Herding drive was obvious at just 9 weeks old when we bought her.
She terrified my in laws dogs giving them the eye at less than 12 weeks old.
She tried to exhibit herding behaviour towards us and my DS (4 at the time) but it was made clear from day one you absolutely do not attempt to herd people.
When we had chickens she would happily gather them all up and keep them in one place with absolutely zero training whatsoever.

I am not saying the breed is perfect, I would happy to talk about the breed with anyone, including the 'bad' points of the breed but so much of what is said about them just isn't true.

BorderlineExperimental · 01/07/2019 17:06

Are Italian Greyhounds of similar temperament?

Italian greyhounds are very different indeed to both whippets and greyhounds, much livelier and less chilled out. Have a read of this page on the IG breed club site.

Whippets are really super little dogs, very flexible with their exercise requirements and pretty low maintenance at home.