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Shitzu tips please

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orenisthenewblack · 11/05/2018 07:37

I have a puppy, for first time ever! Never had a dog before and I am in love.

Got our Shih Tzu at 8 weeks old and he's now 16 weeks.

I would love your top tips on grooming, bathing, bum fluff care, feeding, biting etc.

He's already learnt a few tricks but still struggling with having him sit in the car. He nearly choked himself yesterday trying to get out of the seatbelt.

He's slowly learning how hard he can bite but I'm worried that letting him play bite is sending mixed messages.

He's been for a puppy trim two weeks ago, but was in pain yesterday as his poo got stuck in the hair around his bum. I feel awful.

This is a learning curve for me as I have previously been a cat woman, so would appreciate any top tips and no judging pls

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LEMtheoriginal · 11/05/2018 07:38

Insurance insurance insurance.

orenisthenewblack · 11/05/2018 07:51

Yep, sorted that out this week.

I've remembered another question. How short should his summer coat be and when to go for it?

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AvocadosBeforeMortgages · 11/05/2018 08:09

Are you taking him to training classes? With a young dog and a first time owner I'd regard it as being utterly essential - and the sooner the better before problems start to set in. Bear in mind that quality does vary and some trainers are still peddling disproven theories such as pack leadership. Look for someone accredited by an organisation like APDT or IMDT, or one that's part of another reputable organisation like Dogs Trust Dog School.

When working out what to feed him, again quality varies enormously and anything you can readily buy in a supermarket tends to be awful quality eg Pedigree, Bakers. Allaboutdogfood.co.uk is an excellent resource for finding a good quality one.

orenisthenewblack · 11/05/2018 08:14

No classes as yet. Will look into it, thanks.

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orenisthenewblack · 11/05/2018 10:31

Blush just noticed the spelling mistake in the title. Rookie mistake 😂

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MrsMozart · 11/05/2018 10:42

Don't let hom play bite. They can get quite snappy. Ditto ensuring they don't get to choose a sofa / chair.

Coat - find a good groomer! Those coats grow and matt like billyo.

Very sensitive hearing. One of ours 'trained' my DH to get up at 5am.

Teeth - keep an eye on dental hygiene.

Eyes - they protrude and can get scratched. Speak to your vet on how best to ensure their health.

Exercise - one of ours would've happily walked all day; one would only walk on grass; one would disappear given the chance; one not bothered either way.

Training - they can be trained, it's just not at the top of their To Do List.

orenisthenewblack · 11/05/2018 10:49

So I'm making enquiries re: training classes. Having a nutrition talk tomorrow at pets at home .
How to stop them eating flowers, grass and tissues?

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NotARegularPenguin · 11/05/2018 10:51

I might have misunderstood but you don’t have his collar attached to the seatbelt do you?

Always had these dogs when growing up, I remember having to wash shitty bottoms sometimes. Keep on top of the grooming.

Dottierichardson · 11/05/2018 10:55

I had a Shih Tzu for 12 years and loved him dearly, but I screwed up his early training and it took years to undo. I took him to the wrong vet, the wrong groomers and the wrong training classes. He developed a lot of issues over handling as a result. I also failed to get him used to handling early on, and because of their fast-growing hair Shih Tzus need to tolerate a lot of handling. Also they will put up with a lot of bad handling when puppies but not when they are older.

Positive rewards based training is the way to go, but beware if the trainer is not APDT they may mix rewards with more old-fashioned techniques. The class I went to did this, lots of positive stuff but too fast, too noisy, forcing dogs into sits and when he nipped from stress the trainer took his jaw and jammed his upper teeth into his lower jaw! Didn’t help the nipping and totally freaked out my dog. Discourage any biting and play-mouthing from early on by offering alternatives. Observe classes before committing and see if dogs/owners seem happy and relaxed. Found a brilliant class for my second dog.

Grooming get him used to very gently handling, even tiny hair pulls can make some dogs very wary. Also if possible find a mobile groomer who will come to your home, that way you can monitor them and it’s less overwhelming for the dog. Some people like long hair on Shih Tzus but it’s a pain to keep from matting (and this pulls on the skin and can create sore spots) and limits mobility, also hoovers up dirt/twigs etc.. Short hair is much easier on the dog. Also see if vet has service for nail trimming, had a lot of groomers who trimmed nails down to the quick, my dog subsequently refused to let anyone near his paws. It’s important to keep hair around eyes and in ears in check as Shih Tzus are prone to eye problems and ear infections. If your Shih Tzu is comfortable with handling hair over eyes can be trimmed a little with baby nail scissors, easier to handle and rounded edges means less chance of injury. Also get the dog used to gentle swabbing round eyes to remove debris, cosmetic cotton wool pads are great for this. Ear hair can be dealt with at the vet’s. My OH had Shih Tzus before who were happy to have hair plucked at home, but some have very sensitive ears and won’t tolerate it.

My Shih Tzu developed allergies, ear infections and hot spots when he was two – see my comments on an earlier thread.

Bottoms can become impacted, the easy way to avoid this is gentle cleaning with non-perfumed baby wipes after a poo.

Make sure you have a decent vet, some of them are very old-school ‘dominance’ theory types too. Read reviews online.

Teeth – get him used to daily tooth brushing, and get his teeth checked as overcrowding can be an issue. Have teeth deep cleaned at the vet’s on a regular basis, mine was done once a year. But he had terrible teeth.

My second dog a supposedly ‘difficult’ Irish Terrier went to a decent APDT class, was groomed at home and had a very proactive, up to date vet and is the most easy-going dog imaginable. My Shih Tzu was a wonderful, charming eccentric but a nightmare to groom and hated vets.

Dottierichardson · 11/05/2018 11:48

Since I'm clearly writing an essay. I might as well add be wary of nutrition tips from Pets at Home, it's big corporation so a focus on profit and may well 'push' products they have a relationship with. Avoid, for example, Hills food, it gets a lot of product promotion but not great. Go for a food that's got natural ingredients like Burns or similar and since Shih Tzus can have skin problems might be worth choosing a hypoallergenic variety or a non-grain based one. Pets at Home vets have a similar reputation.

orenisthenewblack · 11/05/2018 11:54

Dottie I appreciate the essay! Great advice.

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orenisthenewblack · 11/05/2018 11:56

nota the seat belt is linked to his harness. I'm considering getting him a car seat to see if that would be better, but DH doesn't want me to spend on things we won't use .

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Skandinaviem · 11/05/2018 12:19

Dottie, why do you think Hills food isn’t good? Please tell me about your experiences. There are so many veterinary diets it can be a minefield for owners to navigate without appropriate guidance from
their veterinary surgeon for a breed or condition appropriate diet.

Dottierichardson · 11/05/2018 13:02

Well I fed my first dog on Hills because my original vet recommended it. They had huge displays in their office. Stupid me didn't realise it was because Hills do a lot of product placement with vets. Hills has some unspecified ingredients which some say can be a bit dodgy, like the source of fats used, it tends to have a lot of grains which can cause hypersensitivities and my first dog did badly on it. A later vet 'discouraged' its use and suggested a more natural and rice rather than grain-based kibble hence Burns. Although there are some articles online now that suggest Burns is not as great as it used to be my dogs did okay on it. But I do mix and match with fresh food as I think kibble and only kibble every day is too monotonous a diet.

The range of kibbles now is just overwhelming, so I look for rice not grain and natural specified ingredients.Having said that I have another vet who has loads of dogs, and he feeds them on whatever samples are available and they do just fine.

I also give my remaining dog white fish from time to time as she loves it - not things like tuna as causes stomach aches - as well as glucosamine/fish oil supplements for dogs to slow down the development of arthritis. She's developing it now, and it's what led to having my Shih Tzu PTS.

On cars - I don't know if it's the best method, but when my Shih Tzu was small I transported him in a carrying case which could be secured by the seat belt. I put him in a car harness when he got bigger.

AvocadosBeforeMortgages · 11/05/2018 13:03

This is quite an interesting article Skandi
www.allaboutdogfood.co.uk/articles/prescription-veterinary-diets.php

orenisthenewblack · 11/05/2018 23:01

Great tips everyone, thanks

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Dottierichardson · 11/05/2018 23:54

And thank you too. I only had my Shih Tzu PTS very recently, and had a week leading up to that to spend saying goodbye. I sat up with him and one of the things that really helped was reading through all the posts on this forum, it reminded me of how he was when he was a puppy and growing up. It also helped me with that difficult decision to let him go, as well as giving me permission to grieve through reading others talking about how they dealt with their dogs and their losses. So it was really great to be able to contribute something.

I really envy you starting out with your dog - for all his issues I loved mine to bits, he was just a wonderful, loyal, brave character. Shih Tzus are much more individual and interesting dogs than many give them credit for, I'm sure you will have many happy years together, and you sound like a great 'human' for any dog to have.

orenisthenewblack · 12/05/2018 07:38

ThanksThanks

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Lucisky · 12/05/2018 08:25

Re shitty bums. I have had a lot of long haired dogs - Yorkies, shihtzu (and now a poodle). It is very common for poo to stick to the hair. Also, if they have had loose bowels, the hair can stick together and form a sort of cage around the anus, so you can get big lumps that can't escape (hope you aren't eating your breakfast!)
The best way to deal with it is to keep bum hair short, either with scissors or clippers. If you are not happy to do this yourself, get the groomer to do it. It will take time, but you also need to train your dog to get used to being groomed and washed. I also check my dog under her tail every day to make sure she is clean.
If she does have an accident I usually stick her in the utility sink (or outside with a bucket if the weather is warm) and wash the offending area. Doesn't take a minute, and is far preferable to having a dog spread shit around the house, or get a sore bum.

LittleGreySheep · 12/05/2018 08:49

Shih Tzus are very stubborn. You can train them to do something but they won't do it unless there's something in it for them. Try saying Paw! to a Shih Tzu who knows perfectly well what you mean but has no intention of doing it until he sees the biscuit!

They are picky eaters and sometimes a teaspoon of liver pate on their dinner is the only way to encourage them to eat it. They are natural guard dogs who like nothing better than sitting in the window and peering out. They aren't good in hot weather because of the short muzzle and difficulty breathing - keep indoors if it gets hot. They tend to sometimes "snork" or choke where the soft palate goes into spasm. Don't panic - hold the head firmly, mouth shut, fingers closing the nose - just for a few seconds until the dog swallows and the choking stops. Wipe eyes every day with cotton wool soaked in warm water. And water wipes are good for the bottom!

Ylvamoon · 12/05/2018 09:38

I have hairy dogs... and your breeder should have given you advice on coat care & laid the foundations!
Google general health check - which is generally running your hands gently all over his body. Keep it short and pleasant.
Also repeat the same with a soft (baby) hairbrush to get him used to grooming. Pay special attention to paws belly and "armpit". Best way is with him standing up as it will be easier later on when you need to brush out all the mutts.
Change the brush as his coat grows to metal comb (get one with rotating teeth they are gentler) and a slicker brush...
If you do this daily as part of his routine you are off to a good start! I also use a command (brush time) so my dogs know what is coming & give them a chance to run for the hills!!! Grin

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