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Chihuahua

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CleverQuacks · 29/04/2018 18:41

Hi all,
I am currently in the early stages of considering getting a dog. I am doing lots of research. I want a small breed dog and having been looking at a chihuahua. I would love to hear people’s real life experiences with chihuahuas. What are the pros and cons? As I say I am only in the very early stages of considering this so all advice would be brilliant!
Thanks

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Bloodynorris · 07/05/2018 22:28

I have one and would have another if dh would allow me. My little man was so easy to toilet train and as soon as my alarm clock goes off in the morning he goes straight to the back door to do his business and then back to bed. His very loyal to me and loves cuddles. He is very good with children. I would say definitely get one but so your homework on where you are planning to get him from.

User467 · 07/05/2018 22:29

I assume you contacted and met with breeders that advertise online to know that? I can't imagine you'd just be making unfair assumptions. I'd love to see you tell my breeders that they didn't care about their puppies.

Wolfiefan · 07/05/2018 22:38

Would be quite happy to. I bet they wouldn't care.
I have met enough breeders who do care and would never advertise. I wouldn't give the time of day to those who farm their dogs for money.

SpanielsAreNuts · 07/05/2018 22:52

Interesting that fluffy wishes to ignore the fact that all good dog welfare organisations advise never to buy from online selling sites.

It's widely acknowledged that KC Assured Breeders aren't all good breeders. The scheme is flawed.

Breed club or for working/specific job type dogs the relevant discipline clubs are always the best bet by far (although not perfect - nothing is perfect afterall).

Cross breeds are often worse tbh since virtually no one health tests them (even when certain health issues are common place in both parent breeds) and they are a puppy farm favourite (no KC reg restrictions on breeding every season or more than 4 times in bitches life). Also used by money maker back yard breeders to alternate KC litter with cross breed, to over breed the bitch. A true Heinz 57 variety working mongrel line is better than cross breed or pedigree in a lot of cases.

Pedigrees and cross breeds should always be fully health tested and bred with careful thought to conformation of resulting pups (some crosses lead to horrific conformation, as can poorly bred pedigree). Obviously certain breeds are bred totally wrong for health, in which case choose another breed or find a breeder who is working hard to maintain the temperament / characteristics of the breed, whilst breeding out over-exagerations in conformation.

The socialisation difference between good and bad breeders is immense.

Wolfiefan · 07/05/2018 22:56

Spaniels I know someone who bought a pedigree that would attack her and try and drag her to the floor. Bit her often and huge health issues. All down to the breeder and background.
I have a nasty suspicious mind. If nearly 8/10 pups sold are from puppy farmers? I assume every breeder is one until I can prove that wrong. Buyer beware.
And it's not just about having a lovely healthy pup. It's about the welfare of the parents too. I know what's happening with my girl's parents. They're not breeding again. They're living a loved and happy life. As every dog should.

User467 · 07/05/2018 22:56

Neither would I, but then that's not what my breeders did. I know that, you don't.

QOD · 07/05/2018 22:56

My pups dad is KC registered,mum isn’t. She bred within her family home. She’s kept one of th litter for their own
Dpup is a hilarious fiesty little thing who grew up in a mad house of dogs and kids. She came crate trained and independent

My friend has just bought a KC registered GS He is a stunning dog with a great temperament
However, he was bred in a KC version of a puppy farm. They breed several litters a year, they live in beautifully clean, heated pens and all the adult dogs are rotated though being house pets and bred from
Her pup therefore is not used to being in a home. Not crate trained. They are still taking it in turns to have 1 sit up super late so they can toilet him after midnight. Then one gets up at 5am to toilet him
He howls all night on and off.
It’ll all come out in the wash as me nan used to say, but my family bred puppy is way easier/trained and socialised

I don’t know how normal the GS set up is but friend is a seasoned dog owner and has ‘shown at crufts’ in the past so you’d assume it’s ‘normal’

Wolfiefan · 07/05/2018 22:57

If they advertised to strangers online then I do.

Wolfiefan · 07/05/2018 23:00

Family bred? Often without health tests or knowledge about inbreeding or how to find the best mate. Often not the healthiest or best example of the breed being bred from.
Ours came from a breeder. She was in the house. Used to all household sounds. Used to people. Handled and socialised. They don't breed litters every year. Far from it. The mum of my girl had one litter. She will have no more. That's a good breeder. They have also stayed in touch and supported me. We have reunions for the pups too!

User467 · 07/05/2018 23:03

Okay wolfie. You're right, I'm wrong.

tabulahrasa · 07/05/2018 23:37

Fluffy, your pal Elsie is a backyard breeder, I don’t know why you mention her on multiple threads with different scenarios, but none of them are good ones...

QOD...neither of the breeders you mentioned is an ideal one...there’s no good reason to be breeding a non KC registered dog if it’s an eligible breed, KC registration is only withheld for major issues, extreme inbreeding, overbreeding a bitch.., nothing good and the GSD came from a puppy farm, puppy farmers do use KC registration for eligible dogs, there isn’t a KC equivalent of a puppy farm - it’s just a puppy farm.

If you think of dogs as cars... if you’re buying a car you know you have a choice between a reputable dealer with all the proper paperwork or someone selling stolen cars or worse, but there’s also a whole lot of options in between and you choose where your line is as acceptable.

The difference is that unlike with cars, money won’t need to be part of your decision because actually the worse the breeder the more they tend to charge.

So it’s nowhere near as simple as puppy farm and anybody else is a good breeder, and yes, as wolfie says you’re safest assuming everyone is dodgy and only accepting them as not after they’ve proved they’re not.

Fluffypineapple · 08/05/2018 00:12

Tabulahrusa. I don't have a friend called Elsie. I was hypothetically speaking.. But I'm sure you know that.

I have 2 KC registered dogs. Both are very well trained and compete at Crufts - agility. I'm extremely happy with my dogs. Even though I found them advertised on a puppy selling site.

Are you backtracking by any chance? Both you and Wolfie have been insistent all through this thread that everyone should buy from reputable breeders and have stated that "reputable" means KC breeders. You have both stated that KC breeders do not advertise as they breed to order. Sorry CRAP!

I will state again - not ALL breeders who advertise on social networking or media sites are puppy farmers. FACT!

tabulahrasa · 08/05/2018 01:39

“have stated that "reputable" means KC breeders.”

All reputable breeders of breeds eligible for KC registration will KC register litters... that does not mean every KC registered litter comes from a reputable breeder, and I’m very very sure I have never said that.

“You have both stated that KC breeders do not advertise as they breed to order.”

No I didn’t... I said and it wasn’t on this thread, that reputable breeders do not advertise on pets4homes and I’ve definitely never said they breed to order. Breeding to order would mean the motivation for breeding would be to sell puppies...

BiteyShark · 08/05/2018 05:45

I think one of the problems is the term 'puppy farm' is being used to describe anyone that doesn't conform to the definition of breeding to show etc and if they advertised anywhere.

Most people that I know in RL would use the term puppy farm to be a place where they breed and sell in pet shops or are dealers in multiple breeds etc. They do not class a breeder in their home as one and neither do I for that matter. I talked to several 'home breeders'. Some were awful and had never even heard of the genetic tests for the parents and were not even going to do a vet check before the puppy left them (no checks, no vaccinations, no chip etc). Others were very good and I bought from one who had done the necessary DNA tests from the parents, all the vet checks, contracts etc. My conscience is clear even if others on this thread would judge my choice of breeder as I go by my values and standards rather than others.

However, even the worst home breeder I found was more ignorant on health conditions than anything else. They were no where near as bad as one 'proper puppy farm' that I inadvertently visited when in the initial stages of investigating getting a dog and yes I ran a mile as it was obvious when I stepped over the door step that the set up was for mass producing puppies.

Wolfiefan · 08/05/2018 07:17

I too haven't said KC reg breeders don't advertise. I also haven't said KC equals good breeder. I actually said it is
Just that the KC has them on a list. You're not reading my posts.

InfiniteSheldon · 08/05/2018 07:24

Bloody hell Wolfie you've made your point stop ruining the thread

tabulahrasa · 08/05/2018 08:10

“I talked to several 'home breeders'. Some were awful and had never even heard of the genetic tests for the parents and were not even going to do a vet check before the puppy left them (no checks, no vaccinations, no chip etc). Others were very good”

That’s exactly what I meant when comparing it to buying cars...there’s a whole spectrum out there.

“even if others on this thread would judge my choice of breeder”

It’s not about judgement, it’s that I’ve seen the results of people breeding litters with not enough knowledge, where they’ve done the relevant health tests but don’t understand confirmation or the lines well enough and have managed to introduce other health issues or have unwittingly bred dogs with major behavioural issues.

So if someone is still at the point of looking for a breeder, it’s that their best bet of a healthy happy pet is with the best breeders.

InfiniteSheldon · 08/05/2018 08:55

. I would love to hear people’s real life experiences with chihuahuas. What are the pros and cons? As I say I am only in the very early stages of considering this so all advice would be brilliant!

You've made your point about breeders! Now please can we just talk about our beloved Chihuahuas without the keyboard warriors dominating.and pontificating

I love my jrt/chi and my little white chi but she is very fragile. She only weighs 2k she just didn't ever get any bigger and she sheds hair constantly. Both mine will happily walk for an hour or more but I pick her up regularly and especially if there are unknown but dogs around. Neither will leave the house in rain or shine which is a bonus (I think wind hurts their ears). With Chihuahuas they like to sleep right under covers most chi's i know sleep in bed with you so expect that too! Mine are proper lap dogs and I have a little blanket I take out with me so they don't have to sit on the floor in cafes and pubs Grin I have no shame.

SpanielsAreNuts · 08/05/2018 12:25

www.dogstrust.org.uk/help-advice/advice-for-owners/buying-a-dog/buying-a-dog

Download puppy PDF and it has a section on not buying from online adverts.

Other welfare organisations say the same about online ads.

chihuahuaowner · 08/05/2018 17:50

I've name changed.
We had a long haired chihuahua - absolutely gorgeous - we loved him to bits but he was hard work- very territorial and aggressive with strangers/ visitors.
Feisty with other dogs.
Hated walks and would sit down on the path and refuse to move.
He'd run away when he saw his lead coming out.
Loved a trip in the car, but went ballistic if a motorbike passed by.
He was so cute to look at. Loved cuddles.
I'd get another long haired chihuahua in a heartbeat but not in a position to own one at the moment.
There's a lovely long haired female one walking with its owner in my area - she's beautiful.
I'd get a female chihuahua.

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