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My last dog died under this vet, should I change vet for new dog operation?

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StaplesCorner · 23/03/2018 12:48

This is a tough one. Some people may remember me I had huge support on here at the time, under another username, my dog had to be put to sleep 3 years ago after complications from an operation that may not have been necessary.

The vet is a great person I really rate his honesty and integrity, I trusted them with my last dog but I had a feeling I was wrong to do that on the day I handed the dog over for an exploratory operation - I had a terrible feeling it was "wrong". Immediately after the op my boy developed necrotising pancreatitis - he was sent home saying he's fine but within a few hours it became clear he was far from fine. The vet did everything possible to save him, but it was horrible the things that animal endured, I will never get over it. I wasn't 100% happy with the care he received whilst being kept at the vets - one day I took the kids to see him and there was fluid on the floor under him and my DD kept saying mummy there's something wrong. The nurses insisted it was wee, in fact his wound had opened up Sad.

We had him home for 2 week but he had no quality of life and I could see no end to the interventions so we decided to have him put to sleep. Bearing in mind all he had originally was recurring diahorrea we felt we'd made the wrong decision to allow the vet to do the operation. He waived £000s in fees, wrote to us, came to the house etc., he was truly contrite. We didn't "blame" him, but we questioned his methods. I spoke to other vets/veterinary nurses at the time and they were all saying that the vet had taken unnecessary risks.

2 years later we got another dog. Unbeknown to us he had a retained testicle, and it is apparently in the abdomen somewhere, so to be removed will require abdominal surgery - we went back to the same vet, our choice, but we now have this dilemma. The vet is keen to remove the hidden testicle, he says it MUST be done. But i think that the risks of cancer are often overstated?

My question is this (a) does it really have to be done, as I say I question the risks if we leave it there and (b) how can I cope with mine (and my family's) fear of handing over another dog to this vet (I know the vet must be nervous too). Should I just move practice?

So as not to drip feed, my friend who originally recommended him years ago now feels he should not have operated on her dog - different circumstances but that dog had to be put to sleep as well and she feels the operation led to this outcome. This is feeding my paranoia - we both feel that the vet is always quick to operate if that makes sense.

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teaiseverything · 23/03/2018 12:54

So sorry to hear about your other dog Flowers

As someone whose dog has had many operations, tests, procedures etc and knows what excellent care looks like, I wouldn't be standing for any of this again and would go elsewhere.

I think it's quite black and white regardless of fees being waived: if you'd been given a refund for a botched surgery on yourself, would you still go back to that surgeon?

StaplesCorner · 23/03/2018 12:58

No tea I wouldn't. I was just thinking after I posted this, if this was one of the kids, what would I do?

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mrsjoyfulprizeforraffiawork · 23/03/2018 12:58

I, too, would definitely go elsewhere or, at the very least, get a second opinion from another vet at another practice about need for surgery.

JuniLoolaPalooza · 23/03/2018 12:59

Not a dog owner but have seen a vet who seemed very keen on surgery. Can you see another vet for a second opinion? Is there a way to monitor your dog non-surgically for the testicle becoming cancerous? It doesn't sound like you'd be happy to proceed with this vet.

teaiseverything · 23/03/2018 13:00

God I'm just re-reading that. I didn't mean to come accross as patronising. Sorry if it did.

StaplesCorner · 23/03/2018 13:01

Not at all tea

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StaplesCorner · 23/03/2018 13:03

I wonder if Greyhorses will come on later too. I'd appreciate their opinion.

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teaiseverything · 23/03/2018 13:03

I meant across. The one bloody word I've never been able to spell Grin

villainousbroodmare · 23/03/2018 13:03

The retained testicle does, absolutely does need to be removed. You could leave the descended one if you wish.
Change vets if it gives you more confidence.

BiteyShark · 23/03/2018 13:07

I think if I was in your situation I would find a different vet. Not only would you get a second opinion on whether you needed the OP but also you wouldn't be wondering all the time whether the same thing might happen.

Is there any reason why you didn't pick a different vet for your second dog?

aaarrrggghhhh · 23/03/2018 13:08

If the vet employed methods which possibly led to the death of your previous dog my question would be why WOULD you use this vet?? Unless there is some pressing reason (e.g. remote rural and only nearby vet) would it not be all round less stressful to simply use another vet then you won't have all that awful second guessing you might have? If you are worrying now I suspect you will continue to worry so using another vet could be a practical way of minimising the need for that worry?

Good luck with the pup.

StaplesCorner · 23/03/2018 13:17

Ok so playing devil's advocate, would you not say that no one can every really be sure if it was his fault, he's a well regarded local vet - stuff like that?

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StaplesCorner · 23/03/2018 13:19

Is there any reason why you didn't pick a different vet for your second dog?

Only because I find it very hard to make a reasonable decision; I think my judgement on this is shot to hell. Talking about it like this is really helping.

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missbattenburg · 23/03/2018 13:22

Staples - Firstly, I am really sorry you and your last dog went through that - it sounds horrendous.

I think the way I would view this new scenario is that I had the risk of making 1 of 2 different mistakes:

  1. Unfairly not trusting a vet that is fully competent
  2. Trusting my dog to a vet that might not be fully competent

If I make mistake number 1 then all that has happened is that the vet has lost a customer.

If I make mistake number 2 then I put my second dog at risk.

Looked at like that, I think I would rather make a million Number 1 mistakes than just a single Number 2 - and so would seek a different vet (even if it's for just this one issue).

Whatever you decide, I hope it works out for you and your pup.

Greyhorses · 23/03/2018 13:25

Personally I would always remove a cryptorchid testicle.

Would I go back to a vet I didn’t trust? Probably not. I would perhaps find someone else you feel more confident with.

What happened to your dog is very very rare and it’s very unlikely for anything like that to happen again if that helps you feel a little better Smile

pigsDOfly · 23/03/2018 13:27

You sound as if you have absolutely no faith in the vet, not surprisingly, so I'm a bit puzzled as to why you would go back to the same vet for your new dog.

This operation needs to be done so find a new vet to do it. It's hard enough having a beloved pet going in for an operation with a vet you trust, with this vet you're going to be terrified for your dog the whole time he's out of your sight.

StaplesCorner · 23/03/2018 13:31

What happened to your dog is very very rare - I know that (thanks for coming on Grey) which is one of the things that is making me hesitate to move vets. I suppose I always wanted to think that it was not his fault, that it was just a horrible accident. I suppose because if it was his fault, then it was mine too for ever allowing him to do the procedure.

See? I told you my judgement is in a mess.

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jellybean1986 · 23/03/2018 14:00

I would definitely have the surgery for the retained testicle, I've worked in vets for many years and my OH is a vet, I know you would be advised the same under his care.

I would definitely recommend trying a new practice though, it's really important you trust your vet and you are comfortable your dog is receiving the upmost care.

If you feel he may have made a mistake with your other dog then you may wish to request a copy of the clinical history. This will tell you everything regarding the dogs treatment. Also, you can contact the RCVS to make a formal complaint about the vet and they will investigate the case and determine if the vet was negligent in any way.

Hope everything goes well with your new doggy :)

StaplesCorner · 23/03/2018 14:13

Thank you jelly - I couldn't make a complaint, I simply could not cope with that, but I appreciate your take on this especially as your OH is a vet.

I think "move vet" is unanimous.

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Floralnomad · 23/03/2018 16:24

Definitely have the op and I would change vet , we’ve had a couple,of incidents over the years with some junior vets at the practice we use , mainly related to horses , and although we didn’t change practice I have at times said I don’t want a certain vet . Whereabouts are you in the country perhaps someone could recommend someone .

StaplesCorner · 23/03/2018 16:31

Hello Floral - you were one of the main people who were supporting me at the time when my last dog died - thank you Flowers

The vet is very senior, maybe in his 50s? really nice guy. He was recommended to me over and over again! But i do have another practice in mind who have much better clinical facilities.

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Floralnomad · 23/03/2018 16:33

The story did ring bells but you’ve name changed , can’t believe it was 3 yrs ago doesn’t time fly .

RedHelenB · 24/03/2018 22:23

My take would be given what happened the vet would take greater care than an unkniwn vet. If you trust him enough to go back to him(As you have done) then you should trust his.opinion on the best course if treatment

Cheripie64 · 25/03/2018 16:16

Ive just got a second opinion from another vet regarding my cat. So glad I did, I now know the best way forward for my cat, which I didn't before, confused with what the first vet was saying really. I should go with your gut feeling and take your beloved pet elsewhere.

StaplesCorner · 25/03/2018 17:42

RedHelen - that's my position, but you seem to be the only one who has picked up on this so far.

All things considered Cheri I am going to get a second opinion then take it from there. He is a kind man, well meaning, but I want to get more information. There's a bigger practice not far with a larger operating facility, teaching practice with more equipment. I have used them before so I will try there.

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