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Puppy Survival thread part 4

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GooodMythicalMorning · 01/09/2017 08:56

Puppy's getting bigger!: continuation of Bitey's thread. If anyone wants to join feel free.

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BiteyShark · 04/09/2017 07:03

Hi Fillybuster. We never had our puppy in the bedroom. Instead he was in his crate in the kitchen and everytime he cried I would get up and take him outside in case he needed the toilet then straight back in the crate. No talking or playing. When he was very young I had to keep repeating this many times but he did get it in the end that at night it was sleep or toilet. Make sure you make his crate a den, perhaps hang a blanket over it (I had an igloo bed in mine so it was den like). Make sure no noises or lights can disturb him etc.

For the day I did work up to leaving him alone over a period of a month and yes I did cry it out which a lot of people say is cruel (whilst I hid to make sure he was ok). This was to get him used to be being alone for a few hours before he was picked up for daycare as I am out all day a few days a week. He also had a kong with a treat in it that he only got when he was left alone in the day.

2016mumma · 04/09/2017 07:10

Hi all,
We recently bought a beagle puppy. She's lovely. We are having all the usual puppy issues, weeing inside, chewing etc. We expected all of this.
Our DS is a year and is being used as a chew toy. We are consistently telling her no, any ideas for getting this to stop

BiteyShark · 04/09/2017 07:19

2016mumma the only thing that worked for me on the nipping was a timeout as he tended to do it when he was overtired or overexcited and needed calming down.

Is the nipping happening because your DS is noisy and thus over exciting your puppy. If so I think I would try and keep them apart unless you are fully supervising them and then when it happens you can jump in and distract with toys for the puppy to chew on instead of your DS.

2016mumma · 04/09/2017 07:31

No Ds is a pretty laid back child and isn't overly noisy I think as he is crawling around she sees him as a litter mate and wants to play. We will try the time out

BiteyShark · 04/09/2017 07:44

Ah then it sounds like she just is playing and at that age is very nippy. Can you keep them apart using play pen for the puppy or child gate when you need to. At other times you need to distract with toys so the puppy starts to learn nipping humans is not ok but her toys are fine. I used to say no, give him a toy and say good boy when it was simply normal nipping. When he was doing the shark attack in the evening then I knew he was over tired so timeouts worked then as he used to fall asleep and wake up much calmer.

FoddyWaddle · 04/09/2017 07:48

Good morning everyone, can a please join? We have had our little chap for a couple of days now and he is preey awesome!
So far he is doing pretty well at house training and we seem to be getting more outside than inside except for in the mornings when he will wee in doors. Today iv been taking outside every 15 minutes and he will still wee inside. I ignore accide ts in the house and just pick him up and take him outside and use our key words. He is rewarded with lots of fuss and treats outside. I am guessing he will 'get it' in his own time. This puppy buisness is like having a newborn again.

2016mumma · 04/09/2017 07:48

Thank you we shall give that a go

BiteyShark · 04/09/2017 07:57

FoddyWaddle welcome and yes they do get it eventually. I used to almost camp out in the garden until he had to go before taking him inside so effectively forcing him to pee outside rather than inside. Are you cleaning up his accidents thoroughly so it doesn't still smell to attract him to pee there again?

Wolfiefan · 04/09/2017 09:44

And take him out on a lead. Don't just open the door!

monkeywithacowface · 04/09/2017 10:07

Quick question, do you guys reward wees and poo's outside with a treat every time or just praise? I have read somewhere advising that you should and somewhere that says you shouldn't!

We're doing pretty well with toileting no poo's at all in the house since we got him and just a couple of wee's.

TheAntiBoop · 04/09/2017 10:16

We just praised. Took him out and had a little play then ignored him while he sniffed around. Whilst performing say the key word and then lots of praise and playing after. Before bed it was just out and ignore until he went. Accidents inside totally ignored.

What helped was pup finding his 'soot' - he likes a particular spot of grass for his wee and the gravel for poo. Now we just need to make sure he goes in the right place on walks as the middle of the pavement isn't ideal!!

He now will only go outside and we only have an accident if he can't get out (so our fault!). He's also going a lot less frequently so poo two to three times a day and a wee every few hours.

GetTheStartyParted · 04/09/2017 11:11

Hopping onto thread 4 from 3 Smile I've just bought the wahl nail trimmer after reading this and pup jumped up to try and run away so now I'm sporting a fat lip Grin oops! Managed to take a little off each though and she is still my friend so all good!

GetTheStartyParted · 04/09/2017 11:15

@2016mumma my pup goes wild for any one crawling or lying on the floor. She sees it as playtime. Sounds like yours is thinking the same.

BiteyShark · 04/09/2017 11:26

monkey I praised but did at one time supplement with a treat when he went. Not sure it made any difference either way tbh.

Oh dear Get I guess the vibration was a bit of a surprise for pup initially Grin

monkeywithacowface · 04/09/2017 12:40

Well DH has just dropped the bombshell that he doesn't want to keep the dog. Apparently he just can't see past all the negatives and he's realised he's not enough of a dog person, he likes them but not enough to tolerate one in the house for the next 10 to 15 years.

I'm torn between feeling sorry for him and wanting to punch him. Other than crying a lot I feel completely lost on what to do next. I mean seriously what the hell am I meant to do? I just told him I didn't know what to say to him and to go to work. Do people split up over dogs? I honestly don't think I could think less of him if I tried right now. Shit. Shit. Shit.

TheAntiBoop · 04/09/2017 12:55

Oh wow!

Have to say I feel a lot of dread at the thought of having this responsibility and tie for the next 15 years but when I look at the dog I think that I chose this and he didn't so I really just have to buck up and get on with it. It's been 5 weeks but I'm starting to feel more relaxed about it

I think you've had the dog a week? Is that long enough for your Dh to have truly come to a decision? He also can't make the decision in isolation - what does he say when you say you want the dog to stay?

BiteyShark · 04/09/2017 13:00

monkey how stressful for you. To be honest neither DH nor myself was fully prepared for the impact of a puppy despite all the preparation. It was more my idea of getting a dog and DH admitted if I hadn't wanted one he would not have got one.

Several times we both asked each other if we had made a mistake during the first month but now both of us love him to bits and the house is empty when he isn't there (at vets or with dog walker).

I would sit down and find out exactly what the issue is with DH and the puppy to see if this is something that will go when the puppy grows up or whether there is a compromise. E.g. If he is worried about days out investigate day care or boarding etc.

BiteyShark · 04/09/2017 13:06

Also monkey I honestly can't say I fell in love with my puppy at first. I cared for him 24/7 and worried about him but it took several months for that real doggie bond to form. Maybe that is the same for your DH.

FoddyWaddle · 04/09/2017 13:11

I hope I am cleaning it thoroughly, Im trying my best to clean it as soon as i see it. Thats easier when my DH is home so 1 can clean whilst the other takes him outside. I use a special spray that is for destroyimg the enzymes ect. Who knew urine could cause so many problems

monkeywithacowface · 04/09/2017 13:24

I don't think he's going to come home and demand the dog goes, I know he feels bad about upsetting me.

I think his concerns are ones that will be go in time and training but DH is not very good at seeing light at the end of the tunnel. I admit myself it has been a tough week and I am certainly not in love with the dog yet! But I was prepared for this as I'd read lots on here and other forums about how tough it is so wasn't expecting it to be a breeze!

It was me that wanted one really so I've taken on the lion's share of the work and I'm not expecting him to do much apart from the occasional keep an eye on him. Oh I don't know, there's a chance he'll come around but this puppy raising business is draining enough without having to jolly along a miserable dh to boot. I just want to tell him to man up and get on with it!

TheAntiBoop · 04/09/2017 13:29

He will! Early weeks are tough but he will look back and wonder what his problem was!!

Primrose06 · 04/09/2017 14:15

Hood afternoon, a puppy can be a handful.
You need to chat and see what the main issues are.
We got ours in Jan. I was not really a dog person , am not sure why but someone dd knew owned a bitch that had puppies. Dh was not keen nor was dd and adult son allowed he would leave home if it went near him. I read the books but puppy hadn't so there was the first hurdle. We set house rules as to where she was allowed and toileting .Given it was Jan and weather pòor and she very tiny when we got her we used training pads cut in half .She adapted to them with few accidents until she was able to go outside.We all love her so much and adult son has a special relationship with her and gets her to do trcks for him . I was going to put her in kennels when dh and I went away but adult son and adult daughter looked after her.
What I am saying is that hopefully things will change like they did here.
Our puppy went into a crate from the beginning. Given her small size she started off with restrictions on where she could go.
Now at 10 months she has full run of sitting room and conservatory with a door leading to a fenced garden.
It took time and she far from perfect yet but not helped by dh spoiling her and letting her away with things.
She has enriched our lives beyond belief.
I think you should ask for time and let him have a special involment with the dog.. The others now prefer the dog to me 😊

roundtable · 04/09/2017 15:12

Good luck monkey. The early stage is hard and I think people don't always realise how life changing a dog is.

It's my dh who's been asking for a dog for the last 5 years. I put him off as he travels a lot and I know I'll do most of the work (which is true). I finally relented as I've never been anti dogs - I grew up with them but I have had my days of huffing and puffing about how things have changed and not for the easier. Also didn't factor in dc2 being jealous of her!

Don't let him give up. Flowers

TheAntiBoop · 04/09/2017 16:34

Pup has discovered pigeons. Not good!!

GetTheStartyParted · 04/09/2017 16:53

@Bitey i think it was but she didn't mind it too much so should be good.

@monkey there have been a lot of times that I've wondered if it was the right choice. I'm not a dog person but my family had wanted a dog for years. I finally said yes and as I am at home, she is my dog first and foremost. I do 95% of the care for her.

It's been tough and my DH struggled as he didn't spend much time with her. My adult DD finds her hard work but my DSs and I adore her. My DH wouldn't be without her now but still isn't quite convinced we made the right choice.

I hope you can find a solution to your problem.

@Anti sounds fun! My pup likes birds but is scared of cats and I have to carry her past the big, bolshy ones that sit in her way Grin