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Puppy Survival thread part 4

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GooodMythicalMorning · 01/09/2017 08:56

Puppy's getting bigger!: continuation of Bitey's thread. If anyone wants to join feel free.

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passmethewineplease · 27/09/2017 17:44

Wolfie it's a poodle cross cav. Not MN favourite cross but we feel like it's right for our family. Smile we're calling her Snowy. Can you guess what colour she is? Wink

I dont think I'll bother with one of those snugglepups then! Will see how she goes.

On the grape thing... we recently looked after our friends pup and my darling daughter threw her grapes on the floor and she had one! We had to do a trip the vets! £220 later she was OK and there was no actual grape in her sick. Still I wouldn't be able to forgive myself especially as she was a friends pet!

DueNov · 27/09/2017 17:49

I have a Yorkshire terrier that's the chewie. One. Ironically he looks like chewbacca too lol

CornflakeHomunculus · 27/09/2017 18:17

passme apologies if you've already done so but please make sure you see all the official health test documentation for the parents, particularly the CKCS.

Some of the most devastating and prevalent hereditary health issues in the CKCS can't be reliably avoided just by crossing them to another breed. Even when they're being used for cross breeding it's absolutely vital that the CKCS has had an MRI done to check for any indications of Chiari Malformation/Syringomyelia. The breeder should be happy to show you the official BVA certificate for this test and be able to talk you through the results in terms of what they mean and how they're relevant to their breeding choices.

They should also be following the recommended MVD breeding protocol for the CKCS parent. This means that the CKCS parent should have been at least two and half years old (with no signs of a heart murmur) when they were first bred from and only then as long as both their parents had no signs of heart murmurs by the age of five years.

These are still necessary whatever breed a CKCS is being crossed but particularly when crossing to another breed (such as miniature or toy poodles) where neither condition is unknown.

Obviously these are on top of the necessary annual BVA eye tests (both breeds can suffer from hereditary cataracts and as yet there aren't DNA tests available) and DNA tests for Degenerative Myelopathy and Macrothrombocytopenia (both of which are present in both breeds involved) plus a DNA test for vWD Type I for the poodle parent. Although vWD isn't present in the CKCS so such a cross can't be truly affected it is possible (though rare) for a carrier to become symptomatic to a degree so the test should still be done prior to breeding.

As I said, apologies if you've seen all the certification and it's all fine but breeders of CKCS crosses who actually make use of all the necessary screening schemes are so vanishingly rare I felt it was worth mentioning.

Elphame · 27/09/2017 18:30

passme £220?? I though £68 was an expensive enough grape!

passmethewineplease · 27/09/2017 18:52

Hi cornflake. Yes we've seen the relevant checks and got the relevant paperwork. My friend has a CKCS so I'm aware that they really do struggle with their health sometimes. We've waited a long time and researched for ages before settling on a breeder. Thank you though.

Honestly I couldn't believe how expensive it actually was! She was in there for about 15 minutes. Shock

I'm nervous and excited.

CornflakeHomunculus · 27/09/2017 19:06

Sounds like you've been really lucky to find a decent breeder passme, I've never yet seen a breeder of CKCS crosses who bothers fully health testing.

BiteyShark · 27/09/2017 19:56

Looks like we are on a tick run again. I managed to kill one crawling in the inside of his ear a few days ago but tonight we have had to pull two of the bloody things from his eyelid. Thankgod the nexgard kills them so they can be pulled out easily as one was so close to the corner of his eye Sad

passmethewineplease · 27/09/2017 21:04

Thay sounds horrible! Poor biteypup. Have to say that's one thing thing that creeps me out.

Elphame · 27/09/2017 21:16

I don't like removing ticks! I have this gadget that gets them off the cat.

Talking of cats it's been a hard couple of days. My 5 year old neutered tom is beyond horrified that his house has been invaded and I've barely seen him Sad. We've moved his food bowls to the windowsill but he's only been in for meals since Sunday night... He comes into the sitting room, sees the nterloper is STILL here and vanishes rapidly.

However pup is asleep on my foot whilst the cat is curled up (mostly) asleep on a chair 6ft away. I'm hoping we've cracked it! It certainly helps that the pup is used to cats from his breeders house and is not the least bit interested in this one.

Fillybuster · 28/09/2017 11:17

The Antiboop - 4 month old non-chewy type here too....I'm waiting to come home one day and find he's suddenly destroyed the furniture! Grin

We've got a cockapoo and he's a joy: the poodle brains definitely help balance out then spaniel daftness (I say this as the proud and loving part owner of 2 previous cocker spaniels!)

Yokohamajojo · 28/09/2017 11:29

Talking about all the poisonous things, I didn't realise acorns were poisonous Shock I am sure he has chewed one recently but no ill effects but will avoid from now on! My biggest worry is all the bloody crab tree apples lying around our area! lots of different varieties and they look bad to me. Are they poisonous? Mostly he ignores them but then all of a sudden he takes an interest in them!

Elphame · 28/09/2017 14:17

Apple seeds have cyanide in them so yes potentially poisonous as it seems are the leaves.

SkeletonSkins · 30/09/2017 10:24

Hello all, completely dropped off this thread but thought I'd pop in and say hello! Hope all the pups are doing well!

Life continues with Skeleton pup, he's great and so much fun. He's getting a lot more confident and last night when there were lots of fireworks, he was stood at the window looking at them while my collie was sat on my knee scared!

So I think it's time for the snip haha. I'm going to go for October half term but I'm going to ask if I can stay with him while he is sedated. Around the same time last year our gorgeous 5 year old dog went in for something fairly routine and died, and what bothers me the most is that he was with strangers as he closed his eyes to sleep. I really hope the vets will be accommodating of that.

BiteyShark · 30/09/2017 11:07

Hi Skeleton glad pup is doing well. If you explain the situation I hope they let you stay at the vets but not sure if the sedation is a two part thing (sedation to calm and make them dopey then later the real sedation that puts them under). Maybe one of the vets that post here might pop up and advise if it would be possible?

SkeletonSkins · 30/09/2017 17:03

I've stayed with my other very nervous dog before until he was dopey and that would be fine - I just don't want him to be stressed at being alone if that makes sense.

BiteyShark · 30/09/2017 17:15

Oh totally understandable. I worried like mad when BiteyDog went for his and I have no history of anything bad happening in the past. I do hope they can accommodate you.

passmethewineplease · 30/09/2017 17:43

She's here.

We're all smitten. She's had 2 wees outside already! :)

BiteyShark · 30/09/2017 19:03

Very cute passme Grin

bluetongue · 01/10/2017 05:21

Hello little one Smile

Well there's good news and bad news on the Bluepuppy front. The bad news is now he's taller he's managed to get the protection off the front doors my dad put on and has done more damage to them Sad On the plus side, no more reports of Hom crying from the neighbours. I even asked one of them in person. I'm not sure is the door damage means he's still suffering separation anxiety or if it's just a learnt behaviour now. I'm trying to tell myself 'it's just stuff' but the damage has upset me.

bluetongue · 01/10/2017 05:26

Sorry for the typos. Was feeling a bit upset Sad

BiteyShark · 01/10/2017 05:41

blue he’s still young and probably ‘likes’ the doors. My dog is obsessed with the holes that are cut into the floor for radiator pipes as he can smell and wants to eat the lagging that goes round the pipe. Despite cutting the lagging off he still has moments where he will stick his nose over the hole and sniff and lick it until I force him out of the room ‘to get over it’.

Perhaps the doors are bluepups ‘thing’. Remind me again are they wood? If so how about you order one of those wood root chew things for when you leave him as it might satisfy that taste/urge. Mine has one because he likes to eat wood as well and I figured that was better than the wood from the garden that splinters.

We have been experimenting with letting BiteyDog sleep in his bed but in our bedroom. It’s a bloody nightmare. He wakes at 3 for preening time which is ok as I can ignore the licking sounds but then he is up at 4, 4:30, 5 etc and I keep putting him back in his bed but after a while he is back up. Not sure this is going to work but don’t want to put him back into the kitchen in his crate as he isn’t destructive but just doesn’t settle. I do eventually take him for a pee but I am sure he could hold it and the getting up isn’t because he is desperate so don’t know how to break that habit.

bluetongue · 01/10/2017 05:57

Yes, the doors are wood. I guess my stress is twofold. Firstly that I have always believed that damage to entry and exit points is a 'red flag' for separation anxiety Secondly, they are the original doors and I'm sad they are damaged. He does love to pick up sticks, bark etc and chew them while out and about. The thing is there is other wood he has access to ( furniture, skirting boards etc) that he hasn't touched. At least I don't rent!

It's unfortunate that my front doors ( double doors) lead straight into my main living room. I can't just use a baby gate to shut them off.

Preening time! A boy has to look his best Grin

BiteyShark · 01/10/2017 06:18

We have wood everywhere in the house so I think they are choosy in which they like Grin. Uk site but you might find similar if you want to try and break the door habit

www.amazon.co.uk/Green-Wilds-EP-04-D-M-2202-Chewroots-Medium/dp/B013M0UA7M?tag=mumsnetforum-21

Hopefully he will grow out of it anyway as my dog is still maturing and we are celebrating his 1st birthday today Cake. When he does grow out of destroying stuff is there any chance of getting them repaired professionally (I am always amazed how great restorers can be) and keep that in mind when it upsets you (which is totally understandable).

Oh yes on the preening time I am sure he thinks he is a cat as he does the whole licking the body clean thing Confused

bluetongue · 01/10/2017 06:40

Happy birthday Bitey dog Cake Glitterball

DeepfriedPizza · 01/10/2017 07:55

PizzaPup has a bit of a cough. I've looked on YouTube and it doesn't sound like kennel cough. It's not all the time, she only does it about 4-5 times a day and seems fine apart from that. Any advice?