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Rescue Collie help?

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RentANDBills · 30/07/2017 08:53

Hi all,
I'm looking for a little bit of reassurance/advice.
I've adopted a 3 year old Border Collie recently, he's absolutely gorgeous.
I adopted straight from the family who were self proclaimed "Collie experts" and had had him from a pup, as a result it was strongly implied he was "normal".

I've had Collies before so his excitability d exercise needs haven't come as a surprise but it's becoming quickly apprentice that his last family perhaps weren't giving him all he needed.

He's exceptionally clingy, really very submissive and can get very worried.
He growls occasionally when touched, looks nervous but also wags his tail. He's apologetic afterwards.

I feel like we can get beyond this as he rows to trust me more and I give him more confidence but there are two things in particular that concern me:

  1. He's clearly never been socialised with other dogs (or people it would seem) so becomes incredibly excited/manic when he sees another dog. He's approached a few and it's been fine, though he flits between nervousness and excitement, but he'll go wild if he can't "meet" them and will thrash and thrash on the lead.
    He's a Collie. He needs huge amounts of exercise that can't be provided on lead really so this is a problem.

  2. He howls when left alone. And howls. And howls. We live in a terrace. I've tried to be with him as much as possible but inevitably he's going to need to be on his own at some point. I'm going back to work next week - he'll have a good amount of company during the day, and will not be alone for longer than a couple of hours but these hours are going to be...loud.

All advice greatly appreciated, I'm aware that these are problems that may fade with time/trust/experience but at the moment I'm getting a bit down about them.

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RentANDBills · 30/07/2017 08:53

Sorry for the typos!

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Fatjilly · 30/07/2017 13:25

My Schnauzer used to howl whenever he was left through terrible separation anxiety. I tried literally everything and finally found a solution...a new pup. It cured him overnight and he is so much more chilled out.

By the way a wagging tail doesn't always mean that a dog is happy. If he's growling and looking nervous he needs space.

Border collies are so intelligent that they need lots of mental stimulation so get yourself a good trainer. Hope he settles for you :)

DartmoorDoughnut · 30/07/2017 13:28

Maybe try some TTouch or get a thundershirt? Worthwhile giving Wiccaweys a email and asking for some advice

RentANDBills · 30/07/2017 17:17

By the way a wagging tail doesn't always mean that a dog is happy.
That's a really good point, I'll bear that in mind. Though he was actively seeking attention just didn't seem to know what he wanted, bless him.
I've seen thundershirts, I'll give them a try.

Another dog really isn't on the cards!

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BLUEsNewSpringWatch · 30/07/2017 18:25

If you Google you'll get guides on how to tell what a dog is saying with their tail.

Pollydonia · 30/07/2017 18:35

How do you feed him ? Would you consider trying a puzzle feeder ? My had had collies and without exception they are cleaver dogs who enjoy mental stimulation and can be very highly strung when bored.
Mum also used to get hers to track objects usually me and did some obedience tasks , basically always teaching something new .

Pollydonia · 30/07/2017 18:36
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Veterinari · 30/07/2017 19:55

Separation anxiety is common in regimes dogs - their entire 'family' has abandoned them. It's especially likely as he's already generally anxious.

I'd suggest contacting an APBC accredited behaviourist asap to put together a programme to deal with his anxieties.

RentANDBills · 31/07/2017 13:12

We're signed up to the local dog club to do Agility and Flyball every weekend and they're also qualified behaviourists so I'll talk to them when we go.

A puzzle toy is a great idea, I'll get on that!

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Veterinari · 31/07/2017 22:08

It might be worth having a one on one session first - the excitement of dogs/people/agility may be pretty overwhelming for an anxious dog especially when his relationship with you is so new. You need to work on trust-building and calm behaviours first.

Try googling Chirag Patel's bucket game - this can be useful for reinforcing calm behaviour

RentANDBills · 01/08/2017 08:01

It might be worth having a one on one session first
Good idea. From what I understand, the dogs are assessed beforehand anyway. It's an amazing dog club, well known at crufts. We're very lucky to be local.

I've not heard of Chirag Patel's bucket game, I'm intrigued.

He's come on by leaps and bounds in the last few days. He's stopped growling at me entirely and actively seeks out very close face contact. He is pulling on the lead a lot less and on last night's walk and this mornings saw another dog (whilst he was off lead) started to run towards them but immediately turned around and came straight back when I called him!

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