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My dog runs away every time he Is off lead

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Framboise18 · 29/07/2017 14:26

Please help

My 10month old pomsky runs away every time he gets a chance to escape today he ran off the front door and went a couple of streets away I ran after him which made it worse then I ran away from him which he responded to chasing me it took me two three attempts.

I can't get him to listen to me he knows what the commands mean yet chooses to rebel. Does he need to see some kind of special trainer ? This is getting out of control

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XanderHarris · 29/07/2017 14:28

I don't know anything about pomskys particularly, but huskys are well known for having no recall aren't they?

everythingissoblinkinrosie · 29/07/2017 14:35

Don't let him off the lead and get a proper training session for you and the dog. I hate it when people let dogs off the lead uncontrolled. Scares the shit out if my dd. Ruins a day out.

Whitney168 · 29/07/2017 14:37

Well, he is part husky, and no sensible person lets a husky off lead in anything but a secure area.

As the old saying goes, never buy a crossbreed if you couldn't live with the characteristics of the component breeds.

So the answer to your problem - obviously - is don't let him off the lead!

ChardonnaysPrettySister · 29/07/2017 14:44

Is that Pomeranian/husky?

Huskies favourite pastime is running away I'm afraid.

pigsDOfly · 29/07/2017 14:49

Yes agree with pp don't let him off the lead. Get a long training lead - not an extending lead - but a long trailing lead, and start working hard on his recall.

Bear in mind that he's probably hitting adolescence about now, and rebelling is exactly what he's doing, which is why you can't let him off the lead until you've done a lot of work on his recall and you feel he's doing what you ask.

If he runs off, chasing him will only make him think it's a game - I realise you had to chase him when he ran down the street - but as you found, running in the opposite direction will get him coming to you more effectively than running after him.

Find a treat that he considers high value, with my dog it was dried chicken liver treats, and if you can't do it yourself get a one to one trainer to show you how to work to achieve a successful recall.

pigsDOfly · 29/07/2017 14:56

It's a very odd mix of breeds, considering the disparity in size; is that a normal sized husky with a tiny Pomeranian?

Okay, so my advice is probably pretty useless. Trying to train a reliable recall with that cross is probably not going to happen. Just keep him on the lead.

Floralnomad · 29/07/2017 15:55

Ensure that you have an airlock system in the house , i.e. always have at least one closed door / gate between the dog and freedom . It is very simple once you get in the habit . Outside keep him on a longline until you've done proper recall training .

BiteyShark · 29/07/2017 16:14

It not sure from you comments on whether you have ever had good recall. You mentioned he knows the commands but chooses to rebell. Does that mean he was ok and is now going backwards? If so then when they hit teenage mode they become very selective in hearing and recall/obedience regresses and you have to keep reinforcing it until they mature.

Going to training classes is a good thing to do anyway to work on obedience and recall etc.

MipMipMip · 29/07/2017 17:42

Don't despair! Miphound is quarter husky and although not perfect he has pretty good recall. And it's improving. So with the husky in him it will be hard work but it is NOT impossible.

Good luck!

CornflakeHomunculus · 29/07/2017 18:33

This really isn't surprising behaviour for an adolescent husky cross. Huskies have been bred to run and run and run. They've also been bred to work completely independently of their handlers. Finally they also tend to be very highly prey driven. Unsurprisingly this does mean that, for a very high proportion of SHs, off lead exercise just isn't appropriate or safe for them.

You do get anomalous individuals who have a totally reliable recall

Obviously your dog is a cross, the SH traits may have been tempered by the addition of the Pom and this may just be normal adolescent pushing of boundaries but you do need to be realistic about what you have. A truly reliable recall may never be achievable but for now you need to make sure you keep your dog safe as well as improving the recall as much as you can.

Certainly for now I'd start using a long line (always attached to a harness) and only allow your dog off lead in properly secure areas. This site is great for finding safe fields available for hire. I also agree you need to be using an airlock system at home; nobody opens an external door without first checking your dog is safe behind another door.

Work on recall at home and in secure srwas as much as possible but make sure to only call your dog when you're sure they will respond. You need to set them up for success every time. This means only recalling them when you're sure they'll respond as every time you call them and they don't they're just learning to ignore you.

Training classes or working one to one with a trainer to help build engagement between your dog and you would also be a good idea. As would doing lots of work on impulse control.

Total Recall by Pippa Mattinson is well worth getting, it's incredibly helpful for recall issues.

Framboise18 · 30/07/2017 13:49

Hi

Thank you for your messages.. I had no idea about the husky recall issues this is the first time I have owned a dog and my partner has had different breeds I did do research before getting the breed I guess definitely not enough !!! I thought I was not raising him properly and was getting worried that he was not getting a quality life with us.

I don't let him off the lead only in restricted areas where I know he can't escape never around people as he loves people so much so I avoid this at all cost. Before when we used to take him to big country parks he would never go further than 20meters and wait as he has gotten older he has grown more and more confident to go further away so we have stopped letting him off lead all together.

I have read a few articles and I feel they hit the issues I have with my dog to a T. I came to my wits end when I was so scared I couldn't get him to come back and I literally felt so hopeless and worried 😓 which is why I posted I don't want to be in that situation again I was imagining the worse of him being hit by a car and I was reduced to tears.

I can't thank you enough for the information you have all provided as now I can put the information from various article's to an action plan.

I have a lot of work cut out but I will do whatever it takes to make his life better and keep him safe. I felt so awful I couldn't understand why he kept on running away I know he loves to run but this was just too much.

Thank you for the link to private fields I will definitely use these and work on the bond between us to make our recall situation better.

Thank you so much

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monkeyfacegrace · 30/07/2017 13:53

You chose what breed? You don't have a 'breed'. What the fucking fuck is a pomsky? Do you mean you have a mongrel?

In any case, you can't blame the breed as such. Dogs are self satisfying on the whole. You need to be more appealing than the outside world.

TheFlyingFauxPas · 30/07/2017 13:56

If it makes you feel any better Framboise ddog's recall is pretty reliable. Maybe 90%. But if he got out front door he'd be off like a shot and would take some catching. Don't know why. He does like is!!

TheFlyingFauxPas · 30/07/2017 13:56

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ChardonnaysPrettySister · 30/07/2017 13:59

You dog is still young, and you can work on the issues,

It might be worth fitting a GPS tracking device on his collar though, then at least you will know where he is.

Good luck.

Framboise18 · 30/07/2017 14:05

Pomeranian + husky = pomsky

Self satisfying is an understatement lol 😁

I think I just need to become a piece of chicken 🍗 against the outside world

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CornflakeHomunculus · 30/07/2017 14:05

I had no idea about the husky recall issues

I take it you didn't read the list of negative points from the SH Club that was linked on this thread when you mentioned getting a "pomsky" as a low energy dog then?

Here is the list for you again.

Sibes are very specialist dogs in that they need huge amounts of exercise but the vast, vast majority of them cannot be trusted off lead. As was said in the above thread, crossing one with something small and fluffy won't magically dilute the undesirable traits of the Sibe.

Poms themselves aren't lazy little lap dogs, they are very bright and can also be extremely buzzy, active little things. A Sibe x Pom is going to be a very high energy dog but also one that may not ever have a reliable recall. Your dog is too young at the moment but I'd look into running (Cani-X) or cycling (bikejoring) with your dog to provide the running exercise they need safely.

Framboise18 · 30/07/2017 14:10

Yes I have already thought of the GPS tracker the only issue is he has gone through so many leads he just breaks them by chewing it through

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Framboise18 · 30/07/2017 14:11

No I knew they were active and was looking forward to having an energy ball however I missed the recall completely

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Framboise18 · 30/07/2017 14:14

I have one issue whilst running with the dog he doesn't like me running or my partner instead of running alongside he will try to jump me to stop me from running which is why running in the opposite direction works so well in catching him

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Framboise18 · 30/07/2017 14:17

This is trouble..

My dog runs away every time he Is off lead
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Framboise18 · 30/07/2017 14:32

To be honest he isn't that high in energy he gets excited for about 15 mins or so but then is quite chilled out I wouldn't describe him as super charged just semi charged

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thunderyclouds · 30/07/2017 14:41

I have a collie, greyhound, husky mongrel. He is lovely, lazy like a grey hound, but with the recall of a husky. I'm an experienced owner and he is the only dog I have failed to get a reliable recall with. My advice, long lead, off lead only where you will not meet any one else (like a large private field), and carry high value treats like sausage that he can smell.

He will calm down a little when he is about 3, but recall may continue to be an issue.

JuicyNectarine · 30/07/2017 14:48

I think you need professional training help for a bit.

Running in the opposite direction might have worked short term but in actual fact is teaching him to chase which can also be very dangerous, especially around children if he thinks it is ok to jump.

You have a high energy dog who needs to learn his manners and you are in the teenage stage which is when you teach your dog his place in the world and that aggression has no part of that.

If you get help now over the next few months you will have years of a well behaved dog who just needs the right lifestyle and refresher training on occasion. If you don't act strongly and quickly you will have a 2yo with behavioural issues that will always run the risk of resurfacing. The pounds are full of 18month old dogs that people didn't train properly, please take this really seriously.

Get trainer recommendations and be prepared to work very hard and put in serious hours over the next year or two. Total consistency is the key. Once you are getting the basics in place look at agility training classes to channel some of that energy.

In the meantime as pp have said long leash, constant leash. Airlock in the house and even then (unless you are preoccupied) leave a leash on the dog trailing, use it frequently to reinforce the command to come and to stop jumping up, always reward for good behaviour and try to ignore bad. Use name and pat to reward good (and use no name for bad just sharp no). Make sure good outweighs bad, play games and make it fun.

Don't consider your dog ready for beginning off leash training until the recall command is rock solid on the long leash (use a proper lunge rope rather than extendy thing). By recall I mean dog comes immediately right to where your finger is pointed and either sits or lies down or heels according to your training, you should be able to teach stay as part of this too.

Try to find a couple of adult same size or bigger dogs with very good manners who can help train your dog over the next few months, dogs are much better at training teenage dogs how to behave with respect than humans are - a good bit of socialisation is necessary and can be very difficult with a dog who doesn't have basic recall.

Framboise18 · 30/07/2017 17:45

Looking for a trainer as we speak. I do have my work cut out for me but I will do whatever it takes to get him there thank you for all the posts it has helped tremendously.

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