Would you have this dog pts?

[Fosterdog123]

I am currently fostering a beautiful 2 year old border collie. She has the sweetest character I've ever known in a dog and I've had dogs all my life, including other BCs. However, she has a lot of issues. Some typical BC quirks, which is fine but her main issues are extreme aggression towards people and dogs. I am part of the brigade of people who walk at silly-o-clock in the morning and night but we still run into the odd person, cyclist etc where we are (busy place, always someone going to/from work etc). She goes into a white foam frenzy. I have her on 3 leads just incase one snaps, including a halti, as she is as strong as an ox. I do all the advised things with her - clicker training, sniff work etc. We have tried to find another home for her and can't (no dogs or animals of any other kind, no children, no normal dog walking etc). None of the breed-specialist rescues will take her. Can't go in kennels. Can't go in doggy day care. Goes into a frenzy when off lead in a secure field (just mindlessly runs, gets hysterical and can't calm down, plus she is distressed in the car on the journey). She is constantly vigilant in the house, despite my best efforts with calm time etc. Her life before me was shit (people should have been tortured prosecuted) and so, versus that, she lives like royalty but her quality of life is still hugely compromised and she is living a half life. So my question is, do you think she is a pts case?

She is my third dog (others are a BC and a Flatcoat). She obviously was introduced to them when she was in her "shut down" phase - when she first arrived. It would be impossible to introduce another dog now.
I really do understand what you mean about needing to walk her. When I first got Abby - she was very "closed in". Looking back she was obviously terrified and it is only as she began to relax with us that her reactive behaviour truly began to show.
I started walking her in quiet places at quiet times ...but it was impossible to avoid everything..... so we did get reactions.

We have had her now for 2 years. She is the ideal dog in the house and garden ...when it is just the family at home. Much more responsive / obedient than my 2 other dogs.
I found it very difficult to stop walking her. It just seemed wrong ....collies needs to be mentally and physically exercised don't they? How often have you been told by well meaning experts that collies need to "have a job to do".
All I can say is that 6+ months of calming her life right down has definitely helped. They told me that her "tank of negative emotions" is that full that any incident causes it to overflow (i.e. react). By reducing her stimulation on a day to day basis we are, very very slowly, "emptying the tank"

They have given me a programme to follow - first stage= calming everything down, second stage=making positive connections etc but it is all very slow and taken at her pace.

As I said I am now hopeful that I will be able to keep her. I am beginning to see the light at the end of the tunnel.

I truly do understand what you are going through. I too have discussed the euthanasia option. The rescue would take her back but I know that would put her back in the terrified/shut down state.

Good luck with whatever you decide.

Yes. She is dangerous and unhappy. PTS.

Background sounds similar to mine, he belonged to an elderly gent with dementia who couldn't look after himself never mind a dog. He never left the house, I console myself knowing that the time we had with him, he was loved and had lots of new experiences.