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Other dogs reacting very negatively to mine

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CollectingCoins · 29/04/2017 20:12

Just looking for any insights on this? I have a 14 month old French bulldog. He has a lovely temperament at home with us and with other people. Very friendly and playful not at all aggressive.
It seems a different story with other dogs. When ever we meet other dogs he is very keen to approach them. Pulling on lead, refusing to move on etc. When other dogs are close he does not appear aggressive he sniffs and gets close to them but he doesn't bark or snarl or jump at them. However he seems to have a bad effect on the other dogs. One of two things happen either the other dog startles and retreats in apparent fear and withdraws behind their owner/run off or they become aggressive lunging and barking/growling even snapping at him?
What is this about? It appears form other owners reactions that their dogs don't usually react like this so what could he be doing to cause it? I was hoping to put in a dog day care or get a dog walker to walk him with other dogs while I'm in work so I'd like to address this if I can before doing anything like that.

He is neutered if that is relevant.

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Kleptronic · 29/04/2017 20:44

Hard to say really, without seeing him interact with others, but it seems he might be too direct and straightforward. There is usually a dance of eyeing up/looking away/looking back/circling that goes on before dogs approach one another. Let alone straight away sniffing. If he's bowling up to dogs, full on eye contact, straight away, there is bound to be defensive reactions.

I know this because my dog is terrible at canid social interaction, and hates it when others approach.

Blackfellpony · 29/04/2017 20:55

Sometimes dogs do find the brachy breeds harder to read. I also find the stance of some of the bull breeds does look intimidating to other dogs. Maybe it's the way they are sort of bigger at the front so it appears they are standing aggressively? Hard to explain but I do think they can come across as rude to other dogs due to the way they are put together Blush

He might also be a bit pushy in the way he interacts.

I have one the same, he has no clue how to interact so constantly got attacked for making social faux pas and now as a result turned aggressive himself!

Booboostwo · 29/04/2017 21:10

What is the interaction like when meeting other dogs off lead (both off lead)? Being on the lead tends to make many dogs more defensive, you may get a different reaction off lead.

Noitsnotteatimeyet · 29/04/2017 21:11

My dog hates pushy dogs coming straight up to him, especially young adults/adolescents. He's not particularly confident and always turns his head away when other dogs approach and if he goes up to another dog he tends to do a sideways manoeuvre ending with a play bow a little way away from the other dog so he's really put out when other dogs invade his space. I'm not sure how you improve a dog's social skills - it may well be worth consulting a properly qualified behaviourist

Thewolfsjustapuppy · 29/04/2017 23:27

Noits, it actually sounds like your dog has very good doggy manners and is giving clear calming signals to other dogs.
OP I think as pp have said this sounds like a doggy communication problem, this whole subject was a mystery to me till I read []www.amazon.co.uk/gp/aw/d/1929242360/ref=mp_s_a_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1493504707&sr=8-1&pi=AC_SX236_SY340_QL65&keywords=calming+signals+for+dogs&dpPl=1&dpID=515re-x4fJL&ref=plSrch this]] book. I now find watching Doggy language fascinating. There are ways to teach your dog to have better communication skills and also for you to help your dog to not be rude to other dogs.

Thewolfsjustapuppy · 29/04/2017 23:28

link fail Hmm

GypsyWanderer · 01/05/2017 09:46

Is it every single dogs just a selection? If it is some dogs but not all then I would say being a French bulldog it may be his face and I mean that in the nicest way! I have a pug and some dogs have reacted negatively towards her. I remember reading when learning about socialising that it is important to socialise puppies with dogs of all shapes and sizes and ones with flat faces etc. We don't have many flat faced dogs around our way so I think some dogs just aren't used to seeing a dog that looks so different to what they usually see. Some dogs also don't like smaller dogs and some don't like puppies. I might be wrong but it is food for thought anyway.

It definitely sounds as if your dog is being polite and doing the right things so I would just keep doing what you are doingSmile

Bubble2bubble · 01/05/2017 10:04

There may be something in this.
My dogs have probably never met a French bulldog or pug as where we walk is very much gundog territory.
The other day a boston terrier ran out of the undergrowth and straight at us and my ( normally very streetwise) dog was obviously flummoxed.
Have to admit, with virtually no muzzle and no tail I wasn't sure myself whether this little guy was friendly or not - turns out he was absolutely fine had no intention of listening to his owner but let me put him on a lead and walk him back to a guy struggling uphill with a toddler on a bike

user1488204592 · 01/05/2017 10:11

I would be quite sure that it's the brachy breed breathing. Not a whole lot you can do about that, if you have friends with dogs and they all meet regularly they do tend to get the hint that the dog isn't growling and is actually just heavy breathing.

You wouldn't want your dog to start getting nervous when he sees other dogs because they react negatively so what I would do is find a brachy group. There are tonnes around my way for pugs or frenchies and they tend to play well together- the breathing isn't really an issue for them.

My pup use to pull on the lead or just sit down when another dog was about so she could play with it, you should get that behaviour out of him asap. The way I did it was not let her meet any of the dogs she did this to, if you let them meet you are essentially praising them for being rude on the lead. In their mind it's I want to meet that dog > pull on lead to meet dog > get to meet dog!

hope this helps.

Floralnomad · 01/05/2017 10:42

My dog is a bit like this , he doesn't ever approach dogs when off lead and hates being pestered . We have some doggy friends that we walk with sometimes and he's fine with their small dogs but they all know to ignore him . When he says approached by bull breeds they tend to look him in the eye and then for some bizarre reason they attack him , he was attacked by a bulldog and an SBT last year ,who are both apparently friendly so I think it must be how he looks at them . On both occasions the fight was started by the other dog .

villainousbroodmare · 01/05/2017 10:52

That's such a pity. It's quite common for dogs to not know how to react to brachycephalics. I was once at a horse show with my (very well-socialised) dog, who at the time was about two. We met an extremely friendly but polite young bulldog bitch and my dog had no idea what to do. He was moaning and whining, staring up at me and back at her, tending to hide behind my legs and coming out for another goggle-eyed stare.
Over the course of the day I saw at least a dozen other dogs react very similarly to this bitch, who was really doing her best to send out pleasant signals.
I suppose it is just a natural unschooled reaction to the extreme deformity.

Jenny70 · 04/05/2017 07:35

My puppy is very friendly, bounds up to big and small dogs excitedly. The only dogs she won't approach/runs from with tail between legs is the french bulldogs and once a Chow chow, dog were friendly, but only thing is that breathing sound seemed to scare her as if it were snarling, but it wasn't - tails wagging etc.

Not sure what will help in this though, but that has been my experience with our pup.

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