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We had to rehome our dog. His new 'forever home' have sent him back to kennels.

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Twingler · 26/02/2017 08:30

This is going to be so long because it's eating away at me. I feel so sick and gutted. I don't even know exactly why I'm posting here. I guess because I hate myself and feel the need to confess or be told that I did the right thing. I can't bring myself to tell my husband and I feel like I'm lying to him by not telling him. I spent last night trying not to cry thinking about him back there. Have name changed for this because the situation is identifying. I feel like I need to give lots of backstory because I feel so fucking disgusted with myself and guilty.

The dog belonged to my husband's family. They bought him as a puppy. My husband and his brother were either late teens or young adults when they got him and living with their mom, so he was looked after by all of them but really belonged to my mother in law. When my husband and his brother moved out, the dog stayed with her. I looked after him whenever they were on holiday and loved him to bits but he was very difficult and not really trusted with my son.

Unfortunately, my mother in law became terminally ill. I provided daily care for her but was also pregnant. I essentially did everything in her house as well as providing personal care, trying to lift her etc whilst going through a high risk and very stressful pregnancy, with spd, suspected diabetes and out of control blood pressure and a history of eclamptic seizure meaning constant monitoring and being hospitalised a few times. I became far too pregnant and ill to be able to cope with her care but another family member was luckily able to take over by then. The dog had been living with us on and off at that point, depending on how he was behaving around carers, but there had been a couple of instances of him becoming aggressive, stealing and destroying things, stealing food from my mother in law because she was too weak to stop him and pulling out a tube by jumping onto her. I had hoped that my brother in law would be able to take him in but they then said he wouldn't get on with his wife's cat and bought another dog...

This left only me and my husband. We were his favourite people and my son was over the moon to have him, but he's not very good with children. My mother in law died and he came to live with us full time. It was a nightmare. I was desperate to keep him and tried my absolute best to address his worst issues in time for the baby's arrival but there were so many I couldn't cope. He bit me a few times. Once just for being in the kitchen when he'd somehow managed to get into the bin and pushed a chair over to the counter and used it as a step to get up! He frequently ate his own poo, then threw it up in the house, often under my bed, and then tried to bite me if I tried to move him away to stop him eating it again and clean it up. Frequently ate stones, sticks, anything really. He hadn't been trained at all and I think my mother in law's husband had been hitting him and throwing things at him as punishment, making him aggressive and protective as soon as he had something. He'd also been teased a bit by my brother in law. I don't think that was done in malice, but he really needed training from a young age and hadn't had it. I felt so frustrated that everybody else had washed their hands of him and I was left with an 8 year old, stubborn, overweight dog who needed some intense training and I was completely inexperienced and ill with not much energy and a short time to be able to focus on him. I wanted to get a dog behaviourist but we couldn't afford it until we received our inheritance and it took a long time. I upped the exercise and stopped the treats, as well as moving him onto better food, so he was losing weight and becoming much healthier. We did make some
headway in some areas but it was hard going. Unfortunately, he pulled a lot and had been encouraged to chase cats in the past, so having spd made it agonisingly painful. I can remember crying and being unable to move on one walk because I'd had to pull him back when he'd tried to chase a cat. He developed severe separation anxiety as a result of leaving my mother in law's house. He followed me from room to room which was fine with me, and I'm a bit of a homebody anyway, but have to do the school run and go to medical appointments. The few times we left him in a room, he destroyed everything he could reach, even though we thought we'd dog proofed it. He somehow managed to lock himself in when we first left him and we ended up having to kick the door in! So I was also attempting to crate train him, but the problem was that I didn't have time to take it all slowly before having to use it, so the training would be going well, then I'd have to use it and he'd be terrified of it again. He was quite big and strong and itd be five minutes or so of me trying to shove him in there while he bit up my arms and bashed me in the stomach trying to force his way back out. God, it was so upsetting. And he would howl and howl so I'd have to rush back home because I couldn't stand the thought of him being that scared and upset. His throat would actually get sore from howling so much Sad I read lots of articles on how to prepare a dog for a babies arrival it there was no chance of it happening when even the basics hadn't been dealt with. I did have a friend of a friend who was a dog trainer, and very kindly agreed to help me, so there had been lots of long emails back and forth where we discussed how to train him and help him with his problems. A big problem that we had was that he didn't like being in an active house. He was 8 and despite being very youthful when he played or went on walks (or got up
to no good) he mainly wanted to be left alone at home. He seemed very stressed out by the constant noise and activity of my son, who was 8 at the time. Often tried to get away from him but my son is very intense and full on, doesn't really stop moving or talking at all. I tried putting his bed in a different room so it would be nice and quiet for him but he was too scared to be in a different room to me. The best I managed was putting it behind a settee but the noise and activity still bothered him and I could see that he felt stressed whenever my son was at home. There had also been a few incidents of him stealing my sons brightly coloured toys, because I don't think he could tell that they weren't meant for him. My son was old enough to understand not to try to take it back from him though he did growl at him a few times. By this point I had realised there was no way he could be trusted around a baby or toddler. I couldn't even imagine walking through the door holding a baby with the way he bounced all over us and scratched us.

Then I had an appointment and was told I had to be induced that day, so I was in hospital for a week. Luckily, one of my parents had the week off and took my son and the dog to their house and were able to stay with him all day. The birth was difficult and I had more problems. Then the baby was tongue tied and not feeding properly. When we came home I was an absolute mess. My midwife took me to the doctors and told them I needed to I back on antidepressants, I spent the first few days having panic attacks and crying all the time. Started pumping which was so difficult. The dog wasn't with us. I couldn't cope with it all. He needed to be constantly watched and I just couldn't do it anymore. I finally told my husband that I didn't think it was going to work and he was so angry at me. He didn't realise that babies live on the floor after a certain age and have their toys there. I could predict that one day, he would take one of the toys and the baby would go towards him wanting it back and he would bite him. Or the baby would make too much noise or accidentally hit/hurt him and he'd bite him. I just couldn't take that risk.

I found a breed specific place that would take him and rehome him, despite the biting. They don't put dogs down. The dogs live communally which I thought he would love because he loves company. And then he was adopted within four months, despite his age and his issues. We were over the moon! Went to a child free home where the woman was at home all day and they had another dog. It sounded perfect for him. Had the urge to check on him yesterday, actually prompted by considering whether we could adopt a dog which is child friendly. And then I realised that he's been sent back to the centre. I am gutted. I feel sick. I hate myself for even having thought about taking on another dog when he is out there without a family. I know realistically that we couldn't have him back. They wouldn't even let us have him, they've said he needs to be in a child free family because of his possessiveness. But thinking of him there without anybody is unbearable. And I feel like I've let my mother in law down. We promised we would look after him and I told myself that we had done that because he'd found a new home where he'd be happier as could get the attention he needs. It it turns out that he hasn't now. I can't bring myself to tell my husband and I feel like I'm carrying around this horrible secret and lying to him. And none of this is the poor dog's fault. I've spoken a little to people in real life about this when we decided we had to rehome him but they're not dog people and they don't get it. I was told 'it's just a dog' or even the he should be put down.

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CoffeeCoffeeAndLotsOfIt · 26/02/2017 10:18

lljkk what a stupid post!

Dogs are family. If you can't see that why post on this thread. Ffs!

therealpippi · 26/02/2017 10:20

OP you have done everything you could. Not sure your husband has though, not so much in training the dog as in supporting you with this. He seems to have little clue re the dog and life with a baby. Surely now that he has witnessed living with a baby he will recognise that keeping the dog would have been impossible. I cannot see why he should be angry.

I have a relative's dog. It's not like we wanted it but it's ok now as he is now well behaved and has slotted in. I expected from xh to deal with it as much as me if not more, as dog came from his side of the family. It's now our dog so we wqually share the care.

AnotheBloodyChinHair · 26/02/2017 10:23

You couldn't have done more Flowers

specialsubject · 26/02/2017 10:24

You didn't buy the dog or turn it into the menace it is now. Not your fault, so no need for guilt . you did nothing wrong.

However it is dangerous so dont put kids at risk by bringing it back . paid staff at shelter will have to deal with it.

Bigger animals that get dangerous do get put down. Lucky it is a dog.

Twingler · 26/02/2017 10:24

lljkk, is that a joke? I posted this in this particular forum precisely to avoid those kind of comments. I could say that my mother in law was only some woman, so why bother putting myself through all that, especially since she was dying anyway. It's a bit of a meaningless phrase. I get that you're suggesting that he's not worthy of thought or consideration because he's not human. Why? Are you really so cold that you could see an animal so terrified and lonely that they howl so much they lose their voice and not feel for them? He might 'only' be a dog but he still feels pain and has emotions. He still had his own personality and I still loved him.

There are a few dogs I've seen on the blue cross site which have been described as child friendly, I assume they've been assessed. Mainly staffies. That worries me a bit because I'd be concerned that IF the dog ever did do anything, it could cause a lot of damage. I haven't seen any smaller dogs which have been described as child friendly and don't want to buy a puppy. Haven't discussed with husband yet.

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Twingler · 26/02/2017 10:28

Just to reiterate (as it might have been overlooked in the mass of words that is my post), husband definitely no longer angry. Just a knee jerk reaction at a very stressful time. Absolutely sees that there were no other options and has apologised for his reaction. He did as much as he could for the dog but wasn't around as much as I am and the incidents were so frequent that I was often dealing with them alone.

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LumelaMme · 26/02/2017 11:31

OP, ignore lljkk's comment. Some people just don't 'get' dogs.

Don't feel bad: you did all you could and it's was not and is not your fault that the dog has such major issues. This is somebody else's mess, and you did more than you had to in trying to clear it up. A dog with problems like that would eventually have done some serious to damage to someone in the family, probably someone small.

Flowers
Twingler · 26/02/2017 12:01

I know. Realistically, I know that. I'm just gutted that's back there. I don't really know how he's coping there. The place does seem lovely but I know how much he hates being left. They have a purpose built building where the dog friendly ones all live communally. He has no problems with other dogs so I imagine is living in there and hopefully not too upset. But I can't be certain.

During the period when i'd brought the baby home but he couldn't live with us, he wasn't happy. We didn't realise he was being left alone as much as he was, and we were already trying to get up there to stay with him as much as possible. It was the best we could do short term until the centre could take him in. My husband actually slept over there at least one night while I was here with the baby because he couldn't be left alone. He became so upset at one point that he ate his bedding. We were very worried about him, he seemed to be pooing water, and took him to the vets. Vet wanted to keep him in for a night or two and he couldn't cope. Every time I called the vets I could hear him howling in the background. By the time we got him back he hadn't eaten in two days and had lost his voice. They'd had to take his bedding away because he'd started eating it. He had bloodshot eyes because he'd been so distressed that he'd been thrashing around and had bruised himself all over. According to the vet, he hadn't slept at all. The vet said to me 'I can see why you're considering rehoming him, he is crazy' or something along those lines. It made me angry that the vet described him as crazy rather than seeing that he had developed extreme separation anxiety since my mother in law had died and his whole life has changed. If he'd been with me he would have been curled up next to me happily sleeping, it wasn't that he was just a horrible dog. My parents were luckily off work then because it was over Christmas, so he went to them and was with people 24/7. But I can't guarantee that he isn't feeling the same way there. Though I assume they would have put him to sleep if he was that distressed all the time. I hate that he has been passed about so much.

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Twingler · 26/02/2017 12:19

I've just clicked on his page and he doesn't seem to be at the centre we took him to. It says Isle of Wight! Perhaps with a foster family? I'm unsure. I doubt that would give us much information if we called. My husband was so upset when he had to take him there and didn't like the manner of the woman he passed him to. To be honest, I can understand why she has that manner. She doesn't know all of this story and as far as she's concerned, we're feckless owners who don't care and are creating this problem. She will have come across many people like that. It's far better that he has a person who is solely focused on the dogs looking out for him. But it does make me think that they wouldn't give information out if we went looking for it.

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atheistmantis · 26/02/2017 12:24

lljkk what a horrible reply..yes, it's only a dog but it's a dog that the OP cares about because, presumably, she is concerned for the welfare of the animal. I say that as somebody who is not a dog lover. Why bother to reply if you are just going to try and make the OP feel bad?

OP, you tried your best and nobody can ask more than that.

1frenchfoodie · 26/02/2017 16:39

You sound like you were a great daughter in law and that you tried your hardest to make the situation work for the dog when surely it was for your FIL to find a long term solution for him that would have made his deceased wife happy. Or perhaps I have missed something that meant you and your DHhave to feel the weight of responsability for this?

If the dog likes other dogs and hates to be alone they may find a shelter less distressing than being left alone or in your house but separate from you and the baby.

AnyFucker · 26/02/2017 16:48

You have nothing to reproach yourself for

Your husband and his family (including his departed mother) have something answer for though. They clearly ruined that dog.

Shriek · 26/02/2017 22:41

thats heartbreaking to read too Twingler Sad ~Very sad indeed for you and very shocked at your husband who is supposed to be your 'partner' in all things would treat you this way under all the stress you are already suffering and with recognised depression.

None of this is of your making, and noone can make promises, especially when it comes to dogs with such difficult behaviours. This is truly your DH's responsibility, or does he not take responsibility well?

Please try to separate yourself from this, you and your DC depend upon you to be well and cope with what you already have on your plate and you should be able to lean on your 'partner' at least a little through your current challenges.

TBH I have to say I believe it might have been fairer on MIL's ddog to have been pts, just because of the distress that it woul d have to go through when its clearly a dog that can't cope well with anything much.

~They have now taken ddog back and it is their responsibility to do a better job by him next time. As as getting another ddog is concerned I would leave well alone until you feel in a place to do the research required to find a beautiful tempered manageable ddog that will bring benefits to your lives rather than adding stress.

Just focus of taking care of yourself and your DC. You have really been through it recently and need to make sure you are doing well.

all the very best xx

Shriek · 26/02/2017 22:48

sorry about the judgy DH comments, he does sound like he's taking on his responsibilities and not just leaving it to you.

The poor ddog. he should have some sedation at the least to prevent him making himself ill.

It would tear my heart out to know he was suffering this way and want to take him back in order to PTS unless he can be handed to guaranteed recovery by good dog handler/trainer.

I really feel for your distress and his.

How awful and i wish I had some solution to offer.

PenelopeFlintstone · 26/02/2017 23:08

I held the baby very tightly and up quite high.....the dog......darted towards us a few times
Case closed.
You did your very best.
Do what Athome said. Great idea.

Patriciathestripper1 · 26/02/2017 23:26

Jayzus you really did everything you could for him. Above and beyond.
Please don't feel bad.
Your priority is your dc now so stop tourturing yourself. If your husband was do bothered then he would have checked how he is doing himself and would already know.
You are not keeping any secrets from him.
He is an adult and if it's bothering him and he checks and tells you then just act surprised. I doubt wether he will check on the dog though as it sounds like you were the only one who looked after him when he was with you?
You have done nothing wrong and gave him every chance. Cut yourself some slack.

HappyFlappy · 03/03/2017 18:11

What a heartbreaking post!

Poor dog, and poor you. You are both suffering.

As you say, the dog's behaviour is not his fault, but you can't risk an unreliable dog around young children - especially one which is under stress, as this one obviously is.

It is very sad that his new home didn't work out, but it may not have been because of his behaviour - perhaps his new owner was taken ill, or her circumstances unexpectedly changed. AT least she took him back to the rescue - you wouldn't believe how many people just dispose of a rescue dog rather than admit they can't cope, even though they know the rescue will take the dog back.

I can totally understand that you feel guilty - but you have no need to. You have done your very best for him. You will be worse because you will be grieving for your Mil, and your hormones will be disrupted by your baby, so you will feel things particularly keenly.

All any of us can do is what we truly feel is best at the time. We can none of us do everything for everyone no matter how much we would like to. You have done your best - your children's safety is your priority. Try to remember that although he may be distressed he will soon adapt - animals are very pragmatic and if they are fed and warm soon accommodate themselves. And who knows - perhaps an even better home will come along.

lljkk - what a goody bugger you are!

HappyFlappy · 03/03/2017 18:12

*goady - not goody

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