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If you're worried about your pet's health, please speak to a vet or qualified professional.

First vaccinations

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luluskiptotheloo · 09/12/2016 10:46

We are picking up new puppy soon and the breeders vets use vaccines called Vanguard. Having checked with my vets they use a different make, Nobivac. So we have decided it's better for pup to start his jabs with our vets.
Our vet uses Nobivac L4 for leptospirosis and having googled it I am worried about the side effects. When our Labrador had his booster this year for this he was lethargic so I don't want to overwhelm new puppy's little body. He is a shih tzu.
Am I being over the top? Or should I just get the first lot of jabs without the leptospirosis one and have that later, if possible?

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Thewolfsjustapuppy · 09/12/2016 12:34

I recently got our pup. She had her first vaccination at 6wks with the breeder then second at our vet at 8 wks. My vet uses a different vaccine that like yours includes leptospirosis, so he insisted on a third vaccine at 11 wks. I had some concerns like you but it has all been fine and Wolfpup was able to go out two weeks after the second vaccine (before the third) which was really useful for me.

Hairymary90 · 09/12/2016 20:30

If you have questions regarding your puppy's vaccinations, please talk to your vet. Only they are qualified to tell you the facts!

luluskiptotheloo · 09/12/2016 20:47

i have already spoken to my vet.

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Hairymary90 · 09/12/2016 21:07

Great, in that's case I'm sure they've discussed the importance of vaccinating against lepto. It is considered to be one of the 'core' vaccinations.

Here's the best info to read-

www.wsava.org/sites/default/files/WSAVA%20Owner%20Breeder%20Guidelines%2014%20October%202015%20FINAL.pdf

This (and your vets advice) is the only thing to trust!

luluskiptotheloo · 09/12/2016 21:25

this is where it gets confusing because that states that leptospirosis is a non core vaccine.

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Hairymary90 · 09/12/2016 22:17

"The VGG has defined non-core vaccines as those that are required by only those animals whose geographical location, local envi- ronment or lifestyle places them at risk of contracting specific infections"

So lepto is present is the UK and can cause death...so it's essentially a core vaccine for us in the UK

Hairymary90 · 09/12/2016 22:25

Here's a bit more from the BSAVA (British small animal veterinary association) website......

The 2015 World Small Animal Veterinary Association (WSAVA) Guidelines for Vaccination of Dogs and Cats have defined core vaccines as those which all dogs and cats, regardless of circumstances or geographical location, should receive. Core vaccines protect animals from severe, life-threatening diseases that have a global distribution. Non-core vaccines are those used to protect against diseases where the animal’s geographical location, lifestyle or environment puts them at risk. The WSAVA Guidelines class leptospirosis as a non-core vaccination worldwide, but remind the reader that they are intended to be used by national associations and individual veterinary practices to develop vaccination schedules relevant to the local situation. As such, the BSAVA Scientific Committee has recommended that leptospirosis should be considered to be a core vaccine for dogs in the UK as they are at risk of contact with rodents or potentially contaminated water. Cases of leptospirosis have been identified in urban dogs with no known access to wildlife or water sources (Schuller et al., 2015b).

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