People letting there dog of the lead!

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So the other day me and my Oh we're walking our rather large dog he is friendly but working with dogs ino dogs no matter how friendly if put into a situation they are uncomfortable with can change so quickly. Anyways we were walking out dog and out one year old daughter who has just turned one on a field all of a sudden a big put ill came changeing at us we could see he was not aggressive but like I said it can all change the woman diddnt even run or call her dog (who was off the lead ours was on the lead) my OH grabbed the other dogs collar too separate the dogs she finally came over and said oh my dog is friendly..but uno what love my dog may not have been that is why we have him on a lead..why do people think it is okay to allow your dog to run up to another dog who is on the lead also while I have my baby wth me?? I don't get it just because your dog is friendly doesn't mean everyone else's is.. Could you imagine if ours was aggressive or they just turned on each other? I had my daughter so I couldn't do anything God knows what could of happened! Why don't people think????

What a load of rubbish ! You don't have control at the end of a 50' lead - my dog was attacked by a staffy a couple of weeks ago ,he was about 20' away from me , and the only way to extricate him was to physically pick him up . If I didn't let him off lead I'd have to walk about 4/5 hours a day to get him sufficiently exercised . BTW , the staffy was also off lead and ran up to my dog - my problem is owners who have dogs that will get involved in fights but have no way of getting them to stop ,which was the problem in our case . My dog doesn't approach other dogs because he has no interest in them .

Are you people for real??? I've worked with dogs all my life I've had dogs all my life I am a groomer and physiologist and very good at my jobs. it is actually a huge problem. I want to socialise my dog well do so but don't let them approach other dogs if you a 100% certain that your dog will come back to you on conmand then you will feel more at ease letting them off the lead! And the 50ft lead it's not the best but it's better than having absaloutly no control! I am saying overall don't let your dog who is off the lead approach a dog who is on the lead.

In my opinion I think they should stay on leads full stop. For the safety or them selfs other dogs and the owners. Goshh

Everyday I am told that a dog has been attacked and it's because off irresponsible dog owners who think oh dogs need exercise, dogs needs to socialise, there protective of their lead, it's all bullshit. Owners are frightened too take their dogs out because or stupid people who think because there dog can sit stay and beg allow there dogs to roam free and sometimes it's them selfs getting attacked because they have approached an aggressive dog on a lead. when I had my daughter and my dog I was terrified when that dog came running over friendly or not my dog could of been aggressive and a fight could of broke out. And then there's two dogs three owners and a baby that could of been seriously injured because of plain stupidity!

Yes absolutely for real. You don't seem like a confident owner to me. Do you never allow your dog to socialise with others? If not I feel terribly terribly sorry for your dog!

Yes I do allow him too socialise he is taken out three times a day. And I am a very confident dog owner j have owned a variety of different dogs. It's not just my dog I am worried about it's also other dogs. Over my years of working with dogs I have learnt the nicest of the nicest dogs can just turn on you

And seriously you shouldn't feel sorry for my dog he is well looked after very loved and is socialised with diffrent dogs and goes out on group walks. I am saying if a random dog comes up too a dog it can turn nasty..seriously I give up.people will only learn when your dog is attacked or your dog attacks another it might never happan but it could when you let your dog run across the field to another dog who may be aggressive

Not being goady OP - but are you saying dogs should never be off lead?

Let dogs off lead, but if your dog goes up to another dog on lead and the dog on lead gets agressive (or bites) your dog, then don't complain.

You should have called your dog back.

I particularly hate it when you see an owner (or possibly dog walker) out with 3/4 (or more dogs) - ALL off lead.

They get a pack mentality and will surround and gang up on One dog who's on lead.

As i always say,all dogs should be kept on leads in public places. For the sake of other people who may be nervous of then, same with other dogs and children. End of.
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And dogs should always be on a lead if they are on a pavement next to a road.
The amount of morons I see walking their dogs right next to a road with no lead.

If a dog starts on my dog and I'm on a pavement, I simply cross the road.
The owners soon rush to put their dog on a lead when they see the snappy little fucker trying to follow us across the road.

Sorry OP BUT I'm finding your posts really difficult to read/understand.

There are some places where dogs will likely be off lead (large open spaces for example) and others were the vast majority should be on lead (basically footpaths and streets).

Didn't mean to capitalise the 'but'

I am sorry but I find it impossible to believe that you work with dogs and this is your attitude - you really don't seem to know much about owning them.

"Where did I say that? Where did I say they were ALL off lead? Are you just getting ready to jump in and tell me how irresponsible I am, when you know nothing about how the dogs are trained or walked?"

Well you didn't say, so I asked...

Most dogs with reliable recall are not 100% perfect so if you don't want people to let their dogs off lead unless it's perfect, it would mean virtually all dogs will be on lead.
No dogs running and playing off lead in parks, the country side and the woodlands.
It would mean good behaved dogs even with reliable recall are limiting their socialisation and interactions with other good behaved dogs which would have been off lead too.
Being on lead restricts their body language and sometimes may lead to lead aggression.
I just think keeping all dogs on lead unless it's perfect is impractical.

People should not allow their dogs to go up to an on lead dog. You don't know why it's on lead. Train the dog to leave it and come back. Recall in advance and not when you're a few metres away.
Similarly for owners of reactive dogs and those that are not comfortable with other dogs. Recall and keep on lead.

I agree with you OP and am having no difficulty understanding your posts. However a 50ft lead would not work with my dogs who are greyhounds and lurchers. If they took off at top speed, after a rabbit or somesuch, then the long lead could be lethal. I do allow my dogs regular off lead time but only when I am certain it is safe and there are no other dog walkers around ie enclosed field with good visibility where they can be monitored at all times, no roads or footpaths nearby, no nearby livestock, off the beaten path to avoid other dog walkers. This is called being a responsible dog owner. Other times and in other places my dogs are strictly on lead.

I personally think all dogs should be on leads on roads/pavements and in public areas. I also think it should be law that if an off-lead dog is injured by an on-lead dog then fault lies with the owner of the off-lead dog. One of my dogs is a very reactive lurcher, a rescue dog, history unknown. He has unfortunately bitten 2 off lead dogs that ran up to him whilst he was on the lead (their owners nowhere in sight of course or unable to call them back as no recall). I spend my walks on constant guard ready to shout at any approaching dogs to "bugger off". I live rurally and even the roads are not safe from off-lead dogs as day trippers seem to think as they are in the countryside there is no need to be in control of their dogs

We all know that we shouldn't let our dogs approach an on lead dog without checking, but you will always get some owners who just let their dogs do whatever and we can just moan about it.

But if your dog needs space for whatever reason, whether it's reactive, fear aggressive, in season, boisterous, injured, in training, recovering from surgery, arthritic... whatever reason.
It is YOUR responsibility to give it the space it requires.
It may mean choosing an area or a time to walk your dog when you think you will encounter fewer dogs.
It means scouring your surroundings and being extra vigilant and change direction if required. Zig zagging through the park.

I know it doesn't help when you have off lead dogs coming up to you but you just have to be one step ahead.

My dog is never off lead. She's a rescue and not happy with other dogs. I take her out at 4am most mornings. I like to be out early and we can have a nice relaxing walk. (Some of you will have seen my post from the other week about an off lead lab) She runs round in an enclosed garden - if she wants to - but there are limits to what we can do. I just expect a bit of common courtesy from other dog owners, and I can really understand why so many children are scared of dogs, sadly

I totally agree with the op. Dogs who don't have recall shouldn't be off the lead where other dogs are. It's stressful for the dogs and annoying for the owners.

mozzie , I don't think anyone disagrees with that , however what the OP wants is all dogs to be on leads at all times in any public places irrespective of whether they are trained or not .

Eric goes off lead but he doesn't roam far from me and if I see a dog I don't know I put him back on his lead. He spends a lot of time running free with his "regular" dog friends who were invaluable when he was a puppy at teaching him a few manners and whilst there might be the odd squabble occasionally there is never anything worrying happen between them. I don't think Eric would be happy to be constantly tethered to me and I'd have to walk miles more than i already do.

floral I imagine the Op wouldn't feel that way if she was used to encountering dogs who were trained in recall.