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Have I bought a farmed puppy?

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Hoppinggreen · 04/01/2016 08:24

We have recently bought a puppy. We have been planning this for at least 2 years and I was very aware of puppy farming and determined not to support this disgusting trade.
I started looking for a puppy about a month ago, spoke to a few KC reg breeders and rejected a couple that I felt didn't seem quite right. I spoke to one breeder who seemed really good, she asked me lots of questions and insisted the whole family come to meet the pups. We went over and it was a domestic setting with the 2 pups that were remaining and their mum ( who was lovely) and children in the house and the pups seemed really well socialised. The breeder gave us a choice of the 2 left from a litter of 13 and we chose one.
We agreed that the pup shouldn't come to us until after Xmas/New Year to make the transition for him easier and I spoke to the breeder twice more on the phone before we went to collect. She has also gave me a list of suggested supplies/food etc.
When we went to collect the breeder seemed in a bit of a rush, she had her coat on. Mum wasn't there just our pup, breeder said mum had gone to stay with a relative so pup got used to her not being there. We got the kC papers along with a receipt, list of his likes and dislikes, a vaccination record and the breeder give him a big kiss and cuddle before handing him over. She texted me the evening after we collected him to ask if he had settled in too.
All good so far but yesterday I got out the KC reg papers to change ownership and pup is 9 days younger than we were told, this means that although he is over 8 weeks now he was just 6 weeks when we first met him so all of his siblings should still have been with him. Also, the breeders address is in South Wales, several hundred miles away from where we got him.
He's healthy and happy and will be getting vet checked today but I have a nasty feeling the house where we got him from was jus a front. I feel awful about it but I realise there isn't a lot I can do now.

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knobblyknee · 05/01/2016 00:12

Talk to Trading Standards. They will be very interested in this. This is a puppy broker acting as a breeder.Wink

ottothedog · 05/01/2016 07:56

How is pup today? Poor pup :( hope he is settling in to his new home - must be so nice for him

Hoppinggreen · 05/01/2016 16:51

Hs great thank you otto
He pooed in the cats bed earlier so certainly Settling in well.
I had some work on today ( freelance) so my lovely friend kept him company and said he wanted to cuddle all afternoon.

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BestIsWest · 05/01/2016 21:40

Dyfed is the name for the old county council which was broken up into Pembrokeshire, Carmarthen and Ceredigion counties a few years ago.

Your dog sound as if he's landed on his feet with your family Smile.

Scuttlebutter · 06/01/2016 00:08

Yes, sadly, you've fallen victim to a classic puppy farmer tactic. The vast majority of teh pups farmed in Wales are sold to wholesalers, not directly to purchasers. These wholesalers then move them all over the country to "front" establishments like the one you bought from. It's often a very nice way for mums on benefits to get a bit extra income as they can be the front household and make it look as though the pup was raised in a family home. The pup will probably make it through - sadly, it's mum is still in a hell hole, probably in the dark and the cold. I would look at the phone number you were given and Google it - often it will come up for multiple ads. The fact that the pup was ready just before Christmas is also a huge giveaway - no reputable breeder would let a pup go at that time of the year. I'm based in Wales, and have done a lot of work with Cariad who lead the campaign against puppy farming, well worth checking out their website. Carmarthenshire and Ceredigion are the epicentre of the trade - it is actively supported by local Councillors, and Council officers are from the area (the language issue acts as a barrier against outsiders). The RSPCA have an agreement NOT to investigate as they think it should be down to the licensing authorities, so these authorities have some of the worst licensed premises in the UK. Stricter licensing is coming in from April, but I'm not very hopeful because sadly there is still such a huge demand and while this trade is so profitable it will continue. Please PM me if you wish to discuss the name of the breeder etc.

Hoppinggreen · 06/01/2016 09:53

Thanks scuttle
I have looked on the Cariad website and ironically I have mostly followed their advice!!! There are some really horrible stories on there.
The breeders name is the same as the person we bought the pup from, it's just the address that's different and she did say she was a farmer ( goats).
The mum ( if it was his mum) was actually in very good condition and did seem to be a family pet - I have owned the breed before and know a few so I have some knowledge.
The only alarm bells really are the discrepancy between pups date of birth and the breeders address and where we got him from - Google has no info about them.
My focus now is to do the best for our little boy he will be getting everything he needs and seems to be doing really well - he is currently snoring on my foot!

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