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V. unsettled, whining dog - after vet hospital stay.

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SDTGisAnEvilWolefGenius · 04/10/2015 13:15

Ddog2 has had a shitty year - she ruptured the cruciate ligaments in both knees in late October last year, and had two lots of surgery to correct this, early this year - something called a Tightrope procedure on one knee, followed by 9 weeks cage rest (6 weeks for the recovery period, then we kept her on cage rest until her next surgery - we thought this would be less upsetting than her being out of the cage for 3 weeks, then back in after the second op).

Her second operation was a Tibial Plateau Leveling Osteotomy - so involved cutting out a wedge of bone, then pinning and plating it, to change the geometry of the joint. She had another 6 weeks cage rest, with gradual increase of daily exercise for the last 4 weeks, then came out of the cage around the end of April/beginning of May, and has been gradually getting back to a more normal level of exercise, stamina and muscle power since then.

All that stopped about 3 weeks ago, when she started limping, and x-rays at the vet hospital showed she'd dislocated her kneecap - which meant another operation, to move the tibial tuberosity, which is where the muscle that holds the kneecap in place, attaches. That happened a fortnight ago, and up to early last week, she was recovering well - and had settled back into the cage for another 6 weeks' cage rest.

Then on Tuesday, she started limping, so we took her back to the vet hospital, where they found she had developed a collection of fluid between the tissues - a seroma - which they drained. They kept her in until yesterday for observation and antibiotics, and we got her back yesterday lunch time.

But she has been awful, since we got her back - she whined on and off all afternoon and a lot of the evening, until dh lifted her onto the couch, to be with me - and even then she whined some of the time. She did settle later on, but when we went to bed, it started again, and she didn't stop until 1am - then started again at 6am, so dh went down to be with her.

We've spoken to the vet, and she has had some valium, to try to settle her down, but it has taken at least 2 hours to work - dh took ddog1 out for a walk, and I have had to sit here and listen to her whining on and on.

She is, and always has been, a neurotic dog - she's a rescue dog, who had two homes, including one where she had at least 2 litters of puppies, and then ended up in the Dogs' Trust shelter - so she has every right to be a bit high strung and high maintenance, we feel - but I cannot cope with her at the moment. I have depression and sleep badly as it is, but last night was atrocious, and the whining off and on for a full 24 hours has worn my last nerve to a screaming shred.

We are going to go to Pets At Home, and see if they have the pheremone spray that is supposed to be calming for dogs - to see if that helps - but other than that, I have no idea what I can do to help her. She is quiet right now, but I don't know if that will last long.

The vet has said she can have more valium at bed time, so hopefully, if she once settles to sleep, she will stay asleep.

She did have trouble settling in the cage after the first operation - which is why we got the valium in the first place - she had it one night, and that seemed to break the pattern, and get her settled to being in the cage - I just hope we can break the pattern again.

Does anyone have any advice?

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SDTGisAnEvilWolefGenius · 04/10/2015 14:06

Rather needy bump.

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Cheerfulmarybrown · 04/10/2015 17:43

Are you sure she is not in pain? Poor dog and poor you.

Cheerfulmarybrown · 04/10/2015 17:51

If she is not in pain and stressed can you let a few house rules slip for a bit?

I have had a dog on crate rest and do know how stressful it is on everyone.

We had crates in most rooms (borrowed) Our dog never goes upstairs but he was allowed to sleep upstairs on crate rest. He was carried up each night. He also was in the room that we were in so he was less bored.

As he got better we also took him out and about in a dog pushchair. That also helped to keep him occupied.

Bones, stuffed kongs are vital also this video may help to tire him out and so relax him

I hope things settle down soon it must be exhausting for you all. Definitely lots of Cake required for you

SDTGisAnEvilWolefGenius · 04/10/2015 17:51

She is on painkillers, and when she does walk (just to the garden to do her business), she is walking much better - and she doesn't seem in pain.

She is whining all the time, pretty much, today - the Valium didn't help and the Adaptil spray didn't help.

She has quietened down now dh is back from walking the other dog.

But he is going to be out for 15+ hours tomorrow, then again from early Tuesday until late Wednesday. If she doesn't settle down, I don't know how I will cope with this on my own.

I know she has every right to be unsettled, after her early life, and after everything that has happened earlier this year and recently, but what can I do to show her she is safe and loved with us? She has been with us for 3.5 years, and I would have said she did know she was safe here - but then we had to leave her in the vet hospital several times, and maybe that has broken her confidence in us.

I just hope it will come back.

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Cheerfulmarybrown · 04/10/2015 17:54

Her confidence will come back - don't worry on that count. I know it is so hard but if you can not be too stressed it will help her (so easy to type!).

She will settle at some points in the day - reward her when she does. Loads of strokes and kind words she will know you are trying to help her. She does not blame you

Have you got any friends who could sit with her to give you a break?

SDTGisAnEvilWolefGenius · 04/10/2015 19:17

Thank-you, cheerfulmary - I really did need reminding to try to control my stress levels and to reward/praise her when she is quiet. It is so obvious, but I had got myself in such a state that I couldn't see the wood for the trees - so thank you!

She is in the cage at the moment, and is being reasonably quiet, which is good.

I do think that, if she can get a good night's sleep, that will help a lot. I think we need to get her back into the routine of being in the cage. And worst case, she will be in the cage for another 4 weeks - so there is an end in sight.

I will ask round and see if someone can sit in with her for me, and I might nip out to the shops, as long as I am not away too long - just for a break.

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SDTGisAnEvilWolefGenius · 05/10/2015 05:23

She settled OK last night - we gave her valium, as per the vet's instructions, and she did settle off to sleep. Sadly I didn't sleep at all (insomnia and other reasons), and at 4am, almost on the dot, she started up again.

Dh got up and took her out for a wee, in case that was the problem, and she has had some more of the Adaptil spray on her bedding, but did not stop whining, and eventually I got up at 5am.

Dh is also up, because he is flying down to London for work, and will be back this evening - I have got to manage today on my own.

I am going to ring the vet and get some more advice from them - and maybe a prescription for more valium. I just hope that, if she once has a proper night's sleep, she will get herself out of this dreadful pattern she has got into, and will settle down again.

She is in the cage for 4 more weeks - and dh is away in London most days. I don't know if I can do this.

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Cheerfulmarybrown · 05/10/2015 08:05

Oh no when I saw the time of your post my heart sank - you poor poor thing. This will pass but right now it must be horrendous and I understand how hard it is to sleep when you feel you have to as next minute the dog will be awake.

Good idea to speak to the vet.

Also try some of the crate games today so that she has an idea of night and day and may settle into a night time routine quicker. Can you get her some bones chewing is very relaxing and tiring for dogs so that too may tire her out during the day.

You have just got to spend the day with a box set on the sofa - but I expect you have things you have to do as well :(

WhoTheFuckIsSimon · 05/10/2015 08:09

Would something to keep her occupied li,e a Kong stuffed with dairylea cheese (frozen) help? Might stop her whining for a bit?

WhoTheFuckIsSimon · 05/10/2015 08:10

Thunder shirts are also meant to be good and calming. Our vet swears by them.

SDTGisAnEvilWolefGenius · 05/10/2015 09:08

I have spoken to the vet hospital on their emergency line as she has developed a side effect from one of her medicines - black tarry poo - and I was worried that this was due to the medicine causing gastrointestinal bleeding, and thought that might be causing pain.

The vet nurse I spoke to was wonderful (even when I burst into tears and snottered down the phone at her) - she didn't seem to think that the medicine should be causing pain. She is going to get the vet to ring me when they get in - hopefully fairly shortly.

I have got her out of the cage at the moment - she needs to be on very restricted exercise, so either small area or cage, and she is in the office with me, with the doors shut, and she does seem more happy out of the cage - still whining a bit, and wanting to get out of the room, but not howling like she was a few moments ago.

I do have a Kong and kong treats, so I might try one of those - though she is in the Cone of Shame at the moment, because she still has skin staples in (from her surgery a fortnight ago) - they should be out by now, but the vet wants them left until Friday, because of the collection of fluid that he drained - he says it might not have healed as well as it should have done, so he wants the staples in a bit longer.

Thank you so much for the advice and support - it is helping. And I keep telling myself, This Too Shall Pass.

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SDTGisAnEvilWolefGenius · 05/10/2015 10:27

Update - the vet thinks she might have an ulcer, caused by the anti inflammatory, and wants her in hospital for 24 hours, for IV fluids, painkillers and to sort out her medication. Setting off soon.

No wonder the poor thing has been so upset - she must be in pain.

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MsAdorabelleDearheartVonLipwig · 05/10/2015 10:39

Just read this through. Your poor thing and your poor dog. Unfortunately they can't tell us what's wrong and we really do have to guess sometimes. She can't have been feeling too bad if she was able to get some sleep, don't beat yourself up, you've done everything you could. I really hope the vet gets to the bottom of it for you and in the mean time can you get some rest while she's gone?

WhoTheFuckIsSimon · 05/10/2015 12:22

Sounds like she will be in the right place, I'm sure they'll get her sorted.

SDTGisAnEvilWolefGenius · 05/10/2015 12:35

Thanks - I'm home from dropping her at the hospital - she was NOT happy to be left, but it is the right place for her - they can give her fluids and painkillers, and something to soothe her stomach. The nurse said she would be in for 24-48 hours.

I am going to get some lunch, and then spend the afternoon on the couch - but I might try not to nap, so that I sleep tonight.

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Floralnomad · 05/10/2015 12:44

Poor dog ,poor you ! Hopefully they can sort her out and she will be home soon .

SDTGisAnEvilWolefGenius · 08/10/2015 06:33

Just to update - she came home yesterday afternoon, and was much more settled during the evening - though she is doing the most atrocious farts! I don't know if this is due to the gastric ulcer or the medications she is on, but she has been shut in the front room all night - and you could cut the air in there with a knife!

She had a more settled night - one episode of whining at 3am, which stopped, and then she started again at 5am, so I got up (dh was already at the airport by then). She needed to go out in the garden, and did a big poo - which may explain the whining. It is still tarry and black though - sorry, TMI - so I am going to let the vet hospital know, as that is a sign that there may still be bleeding in her stomach.

Fingers crossed they don't want her back in again. Sad

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Floralnomad · 08/10/2015 06:55

Hope she feels better soon ,have a good day x

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