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I really need some puppy help, right now I feel like I hate her

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D0G · 22/08/2015 18:50

She's just chewed the whole toilet floor up, literally ripped it up and shredded it, she wasn't even left in there we have been home all afternoon. she chews everything, except her fucking toys. She is played with constantly and never left alone for more than a couple of hours. She's still really crap at toileting, I walk her and let her out often yet she seems to go out and then come in and pee and pooh, I am constantly mopping. Im really at my wits end, I just don't know what to do in so fed up of piss shit and demolished chewed up stuff.

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D0G · 22/08/2015 18:51

Look at the floor!

I really need some puppy help, right now I feel like I hate her
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airforsharon · 22/08/2015 19:31

How old is she DOG? And how long have you had her?

Booboostwo · 22/08/2015 19:32

Take a deep breath. Puppies are hard work, but you will get there.

One problem at a time. Is she crate trained? A crate may be a good idea to keep her out of trouble when you cannot watch her. Also close doors and restrict her access to other areas of the house so you can always have eyes on her. If she likes digging and tearing up can you provide her with an appropriate outlet for this?

How often do you take her out for toilet? Can you do it every hour or even every half hour? Also stay with her when you take her out so she does not feel abandoned. How well have you cleaned up accidents? I don't mean to criticise your cleaning efforts but urine smell can persist so it's worth using a specific produce like Urine Off or Simple Solution. If all else fails keep her on a lead all day long and tie it round your waist so that she can't sneak off anywhere and you are always supervising her.

Finally, is it possible she is a bit stressed? It may be worth trying Adaptil and/or Zylkene.

Floralnomad · 22/08/2015 19:32

Well the toileting is because she is not properly house trained which is down to whoever is teaching her , have you got a command word ? Do you go out with her and get all excited when she goes? Do you watch her like a hawk for signs that she's going to go and get her outside quickly and then praise for doing it in the right place ? As for the chewing ,some dogs chew which is why lots of people use crates ( I dont) but if you were in and she did all that damage perhaps you need to supervise her better ,I hope it doesn't make her ill . I'm sorry if I sound a bit harsh and unsympathetic but really it's not the dogs fault and hopefully she will grow out of the chewing .

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D0G · 22/08/2015 19:41

She is now 8 months and we've had her since she was 8 weeks. I'm sure it won't make her ill it's all there just ripped up.

Toilet wise she is let out every hour and usually I go with her and our other dog comes. I usually make a fuss yes. I'm not sure whether to go back to basics with puppy pads. Out on walks she is often too excited to toilet but if she does of course I fuss her. She is happy and content not at all stressed she has company is rarely left home alone.

She was crated a bit as a tiny puppy but she out grew it I will get a crate that's big enough tomorrow and start again with that. I'm just so pissed off she has toys and attention and love and walks. There was no need at all for that she wasn't even shut in there

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Costacoffeeplease · 22/08/2015 19:54

She must have been there for a while to do that, you need to supervise her better, train her better, exercise her more, and play with her more - most of these type of behaviour issues with dogs are down to the owner and the care and training they receive - a bit of back to basics should help

Floralnomad · 22/08/2015 20:01

If you used puppy pads that may be why she is confused as to where she should be toileting ,it's best just to go outside only from the start.

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D0G · 22/08/2015 20:02

She wasnt, it was literally five mins because I was painting went to toilet went back to wash brush and it was ripped up all doors open etc, I was a couple of metres away.

We play with her all the time and she is regularly walked, her recall is perfect. She sits on command and is usually very well behaved apart from the toileting if we go out she pretty much always comes with us. I don't really know what more I can do. I don't need to be told it's all my fault when I'm trying my best

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D0G · 22/08/2015 20:03

We used puppy pads for the first two weeks when she was tiny

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insanityscatching · 22/08/2015 20:10

No puppy pads are a bad idea they just confuse the dogs into thinking it's ok to toilet indoors.You need to go right back to the beginning, take her out every 30 minutes and wait with her. Have a command word,( Eric's was quickly),you'll need to catch her peeing outside and use the command word and then praise (ott praise). It won't take long for her to connect the command with the action and you will be able to hurry up the toiletting outside.If at first, she doesn't go outside pick her up and carry her round for five minutes before going back outside so she doesn't get a chance to fail. She will get it, you just need to be persistent at first. As for the chewing I'd use gates to make sure she wasn't unsupervised and didn't get the opportunity tbh.

Costacoffeeplease · 22/08/2015 20:15

But what you're doing isn't working is it? She maybe needs more mental stimulation - hiding treats or toys for her to find, clicker training and tricks, stuffed kongs to keep her occupied etc

MimsyBorogroves · 22/08/2015 20:16

Sounds like you're hitting a bit of an early teenage streak, plus perhaps separation anxiety. I'd consider crating, but I do crate two out of three of mine anyway. Frozen kongs are great attention-keepers for when you have to go out (and for when they hit a chewy phase). Has she got her back teeth through? Mine was an arse at that point for chewing. Kitchen wall was lost.

BrumpyGollocks · 22/08/2015 20:21

I would go back to basics for a few days op, out the garden every 20 min for the next few days and have the family take it in turns for any sign of wanting the toilet (sniffing the floor etc)
I have 2 young dogs & the best thing I ever did was baby gate the doorways so that I could shut the gates when I needed without having to shut them up completely.

You will get there but you have to continue with training until pup gets it.

As for the chewing, pup is teething & some will chew anything if left even for a short period .
You could try a deer antler, they do puppy ones if small breed,carrots from the fridge or even old bits of cloth soaked in water then twisted up and frozen in a freezer bag,they will soothe sore gums.

Have you tried a kong?
Dogs love them & they keep them occupied .
If you have times you need to pop out You can stuff them with lots of things & also freeze them which makes them last ages.

Backforthis · 22/08/2015 20:25

Great advice from BrumpyGollocks

insanityscatching · 22/08/2015 20:31

Our little dog hit his teens at about 9 months and he was awful, disobedient,stroppy and thought he was about to rule the world.Keeping him busy helped, kongs, bones and kibble scattered round the garden or sealed in a box all took his mind off getting up to mischief.

airforsharon · 22/08/2015 20:58

When my dog got to 7/8 months he started ripping the guts out of previously loved soft toys, he'd demolish one in minutes. So I gave up on those and started to give him bones, raw hide chews, pork rolls etc which he could gnaw on for hours. He still carried them around like toys, but they kept him occupied. Yes to a stuffed Kong too. Keep toys like balls, Frisbees etc just for walks.

Re the toileting, if you really feel you've hit a brick wall, have you looked for a dog behavioural specialist in your area? A hour or so of their help might do the trick.

Thisismyfirsttime · 22/08/2015 21:06

What breed is she OP? Just curious!

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D0G · 22/08/2015 21:17

She's a French bull dog. She has a kong but has never so much as licked it even with that awful beef taste tooth paste type stuff in it.

Will try hiding treats and going to go right back to basics with the toileting.

Like the idea of having her tied to me for a while and the crate can really monitor her then.

I love her to bits but she can be so frustrating.

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Costacoffeeplease · 22/08/2015 21:40

Maybe try some different kong fillings, there are lots if you google it

WeAllHaveWings · 22/08/2015 21:53

No consolation, but our Labrador is now 2 1/2 and stopped chewing on day around 18 months and hasn't since touched anything since. We lost a sofa, a carpet, and numerous pairs of shoes etc in the process.

Bitter apple spray protected the rest of the furniture until he stopped.

It will end eventually, until then you need to monitor as much as possible and if you can't put them in a crate (with a kong) for their own safety. If they don't have anything else to chew they will hopefully explore the kong.

We stopped giving him antlers as he cut his mouth on one when it splintered.

She isn't being bad, its just what puppies do.

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D0G · 22/08/2015 22:36

Going to google bitter Apple spray, sounds interesting. I'll also try the kong pastes. Sorry if I sounded over defensive earlier, I'm just feeling like I'm doing my best and failing. It's bloody hard work.

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Costacoffeeplease · 22/08/2015 22:52

Yes, pups are bloody hard work, and not just for the first few weeks, I always reckon on about 18 months before you can really relax with them

You don't need special kong pastes, there are lots of things you can put in them - cheese, cottage/cream cheese, sausage/hot dogs, peanut butter, baked liver treats (just put some liver in the oven at a low temp for an hour or so - also great chopped up as training treats)

Some ideas here www.caninemind.co.uk/kong.html

pinkje · 22/08/2015 22:58

Are there 2 dogs in your picture?

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D0G · 22/08/2015 23:05

Yes we have an older small dog, he's now nearly 5

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pinkje · 22/08/2015 23:09

Did he not try to stop the bad behaviour?