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My dog hates my baby

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Wishingtimeaway · 17/07/2015 22:06

I have a three yr old German shepherd X, that I adopted a couple of years ago, who I adore, but does have his issues. In pregnancy we did all the playing baby sounds, getting the dog used to baby stuff, stopping him going on furniture/ upstairs etc. But then we brought home our DD 3weeks ago, and now struggling.

Initially, while he wanted to sniff her, he would whine and moan whenever she made noise, panting, yawning in the same room as her, trying to get as close to whoever wasn't holding the baby for reassurance. then when she was a week old, while I was struggling to try bf, he came up and nudged at me for attention, and when i sent him to his bed, snapped at her face, luckily not making contact.

since then, he is gated in the kitchen, unless my dh is around to oversee, or unless dd is sleeping in the pram. We are trying todo lots of positive reinforcement, treats when he is calm in the same room, walks with the pram ( as well as walks with a dog walker- so he's tired). But he's still no happier in the same room.

can this get better? I have no idea whether I doing the right thing. we have seen/ are seeing a behaviourist, but most the tips seem more about managing them separately. I feel so guilty, that the dog is spending most his life in the kitchen/ garden. But I have to protect my baby, and he snapped at her so suddenly, if he had wanted to actually hurt her, he could have done so easily, despite me there and holding her, and there is nothing I could have done.

I don't know whether with time, this will get better. Or whether I'm being unfair to my DD, to keep the dog when he's already snapped at her. And increasingly. Am being unfair to my dog, because he is so unhappy and stressed out with her presence, and while I adore him, would he be happier in a child free home. I would be devastated not having him here, but need to do what's best. Just wish I knew what that was.

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tabulahrasa · 18/07/2015 13:32

Tbh, you're right a GSD x with a history with children isn't going to be the easiest dog to rehome...and sadly you may end up deciding that actually having him PTS is kinder than languishing in kennels.

But there will be rehoming options before you get to that point.

Try looking for breed specific rescues in your area and small organisations...they tend to use foster homes rather than kennels.

Ask your behaviourist if there are any rescues they recommend or if they know anyone who would be suitable for your dog. They should be able to give you advice about rehoming.

Wishingtimeaway · 18/07/2015 13:47

Because we adopted him from the dogs trust, I think he has to be rehomed through them, not sure any other rescue would be able to help. unfortunately, otherwise keeping him with us, while he was found a better home, would be my ideal option

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tabulahrasa · 18/07/2015 13:50

Ah, yes, you are supposed to use them...

They may be willing to leave him with you until they find someone though.

mrstweefromtweesville · 18/07/2015 13:50

Please rehome your dog as soon as possible. Is there a child-free relative who can keep the dog until a new home is found?
Baby first.

ImperialBlether · 18/07/2015 13:52

If you're going to keep the dog, let the baby live with relatives.

If you're going to keep the baby, let the dog be rehomed.

LostMySanityCanIBorrowYours · 18/07/2015 14:04

Did the behaviourist give you anything more than keep them apart?

He should really have tried to work out what the trigger was, teach you the stress signs and worked on counter conditioning or BAT or both (which can be started while dog and baby are kept apart)

I'd stop walks with the pram and allowing the dog anywhere near the baby while he is so concerned about her presence.

A decent behaviourist would talk through how to lower his stress levels and how to use recordings/dolls/blankets etc to increase his confidence around the baby.

StarsInTheNightSky · 18/07/2015 14:05

tabulah that's why in my original post I said that for me personally, the second one of our dogs showed any aggression towards DS then that would be it.

Wishingtimeaway · 18/07/2015 14:07

There is nobody that would be able/willing to look after the dog, our familes aren't dog people. And I don't feel there is any immediate need to rush out and do something today, it's deciding what's best for everybody long term. Short term, the dog is mainly only in the same room as us, on a lead with my dh, and so can not hurt her. Keeping her safe is my priority

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Wishingtimeaway · 18/07/2015 14:14

The behaviourist pretty much told us to try get the dog to see baby as something positive, so walks all together, treats when he's calm in the same room, and lots of reassurance. And he has got slightly better, he whines less, but still lots of panting, yawning, and stressed signs in her presence.

We are seeing a dogs trust behaviourist this week, so hoping she can also advise us, but also go through the process of how he would be rehomed.

I would love to keep him, and him to adjust, and be a great family dog. But I don't see that happening, and doesn't sound like that's been achieved by anybody.

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LostMySanityCanIBorrowYours · 18/07/2015 14:15

I would not let him in the room even with a lead on, tbh.

I think you already know that the dog is frightened/stressed by the baby and/or the noises she makes. That's what the yawning and panting are all about.

While he is continually exposed to her his stress levels will rise and rise and unfortunately a stressed/anxious dog is a dog who is unable to learn. By exposing him in small doses while he is still stressed, you are actually making it worse, not better.

Keep the baby and dog apart completely until you can find a better behaviourist who can walk you through BAT/counter conditioning.

Spend time with the dog when your husband is home, but use a strict routine, so he knows exactly who will be with him, doing what and when. This will also help lower his stress levels.

VerityWaves · 18/07/2015 19:09

The dog went for your newborn baby. Is there really any debate here?

MimsyBorogroves · 18/07/2015 19:22

The yawning and panting are him trying to calm himself. He's trying. But he can't. I'm sorry, OP, but it would be best for everyone in this situation to rehome - he's never going to be happy and ultimately you're putting your child in danger.

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Hoppinggreen · 04/01/2020 11:48

No disrespect to starsinthenightsky, I actually love hearing about her life, it sounds amazing
BUT if I’m right she lives on a huge ranch in South America with dangerous wildlife around and needs dogs like hers for protection, didnt one take down a puma or similar once?
Sounds like she has a good handle on her dogs but I’m not sure it translates to a domestic environment in the UK.
We had some resource guarding issues with our dog, who we actually got when the youngest dc was 8 and we worked very hard to make sure that he’s now safe around them but we had a red line of him showing aggression to the dc and if he had we couldn’t have kept him.
I’m sorry OP but in your shoes I think I would rehome

Catsrus · 04/01/2020 11:59

The OPs newborn will be at school by now @Hoppinggreen!

Hoppinggreen · 04/01/2020 12:11

Oh bloody hell is it a Zombie?
I’m normally pretty good at spotting them

NikkiMartin · 14/04/2024 21:23

Can I ask, if you're still there - what did you do in the end?

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