Puppy jumping at ds but only in the garden

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I think I know what to do but I'm posting to get other ideas.

I have a 6 year old ds, who after a long winter is bursting with energy (we are not in the UK and the snow has only just thawed) We also have a 7 month rescue puppy who we adopted at 7.5 weeks. They said she is a collie cross. She doesn't look anything like any collie I've ever seen though and the last time I took her to the vet they didn't think she was a collie. She looks a bit like a light brown fox with large sticky up ears.

Anyway, indoors she is crate trained and ds/puppy are never left alone. However the problem I have is outside where the puppy is jumping up at my son's face. If I am in the garden with her she also jumps at my face and bites my ankles. This is only outside not indoors.

I'm wondering if she thinks that the garden is 'hers' after our long winter.

My plan going forwards is to not let ds/puppy outside together without an adult but have the puppy on a lead with me rewarding her for 'calm' behavior outside.

Does that sound like a plan or am I missing something blindingly obvious??? What else should I be doing?

At what point do puppies/dogs can to be around children running/making noise without jumping and getting overly excited?

If she's suddenly got people to play with in the garden, it'll just be excitement...and yes, that's how I'd be handling it too, rewarding wanted behaviour, the reward can be a game as well so it's not no playtime, just play nicely.

When they can be calm around children pretty much depends on the dog and the training, some dogs take less training than others and some just take longer.

Try some impulse control stuff, wait, fetch with a wait, leave it, stay with you doing exciting things and playing till she's nice and excited, stopping dead and only starting again when she sits - until she'll do it automatically when you stop. Things like that should help.

Thank you.

I've been doing some impulse control with her indoors but clearly need to take this outside with the ideas you suggested.

I obviously need to pretend to be a bit more 'exciting'

Lol, exciting...otherwise known as looking like a numpty - I often get to look like a numpty in public in the aid of training my dog, it is not one of his endearing qualities.

The stop start playing one might be useful though, because once she starts to do it, you can get your DS involved too.

Thanks again. I'm cross with myself as everything has been going well so far. I didn't think through the garden scenario and the change in playing that is outside compared to inside for my ds and how that would be another learning curve. It feels like we have been cooped up for too long while the puppy has been a happy bunny frolicking in the snow!

FWIW, my pup is 6 1/2 months old, we have had since she was 9 weeks and the same - she jumps up, nips and chases all of us in the garden - but rarely in the house. During the really big puppy biting phase though she was terrible - quite easily the most bitey pup I have ever had. So you're not alone!

Oh it's totally normal for a puppy to find people doing stuff outside more exciting - there's every chance she'd still be doing it even if he'd been out there all winter with her.

Firstly I would like to say that although your puppy may not look like a collie, but it certainly sounds like she is... The ankle biting is her "rounding you up". My Collie done the exact same thing as a pup to my ds and myself.

Secondly I would absolutely agree that she thinks the garden is her territory and keeping her on a lead whilst in the garden is probably the best way of making her realise that she has to share it with other people. Being a collie cross is an advantage because it probably won't take her long to train as they're an extremely intelligent breed. Usually the collie intelligence overrides the other breed that they're crossed with. Perhaps once you've established the behaviour you expect from her you may be able to make her some kind of assault course. As she gets older her energy levels will increase and having one of these might help her burn off excess energy and also allow her to think she is "working". Getting your ds involved with any puppy/dog training is imo a very good idea, it will help them bond and she'll see that although he is a small human, he is human nevertheless, and must not use him as a play thing

I'm pleased it's not just me then. I've spent a lot of time with her in the garden today and took my ds out with us this afternoon in a very 'controlled' situation to play fetch with two balls and all was good for about ten minutes but then she jumped up and went for my son's hand (he didn't have the ball was just standing there) I gave a stern 'no' and then she lunged at my hand. Maybe the ten minutes was too long.

By pure coincidence the rescue staff paid an unannounced visit this afternoon to check up on how things were going so I discussed it with them. They are going to get their trainer to call so I'm hoping to get some more ideas.

10 minutes shouldn't be too long. Is she perhaps teething? It could be that she's mouthing. Although that isn't an excuse for using people's hands as chew toys, they tend to mouth whatever is nearest (just like teething babies or exploring toddlers)! Unfortunately they don't have the same etiquette as people. Just keep giving a stern NO if she tries to do it again. She will understand already but she's pushing boundaries. My collie was a little shit when he was a pup, but now he's very obedient. Still likes to think he's a working sheepdog though, which I still find weird because although his parents were, he never actually seen them working or spent time outside on the working farm. It's definitely in their genes.

I'm pleased their trainer is going to call. Any tips will be very useful. Especially with her still being a puppy, even if she doesn't have the attention span right now and everything is a toy she will learn something.