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Bedlington terriers

27 replies

coalscuttle · 28/02/2015 18:25

Anyone have one of these or know about them? I'm interested in the working aspect. I wouldn't buy a dog off the internet but have seen several litters for sale from working parents, also several litters crossed with whippets. There us a show run by the breed association near me next month so I'm going to go along to that and have a better look and hopefully a chat with some owners. I have two working spaniels at the moment. A lapdog wouldn't suit me and I'd like something that will keep up with the spans!

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Buttholelane · 28/02/2015 18:35

If bedlingtons are anything like other breeds, if your interested in working I wouldn't bother with a breed club show.

My working line border collie is tall, slender with an almost greyhound like, petite build with longish, silky fur that lies flat.
Compare this to the border collies seen at shows - considerably smaller, stocky; sometimes borderline fat imo, much broader head and a ridiculous amount of lush, super long, thick fur.

Or cocker spaniels, the working type is a lovely athletic looking dog with longish but sensible fur.
Look at the show type - so different they should be different breeds.

Labradors, goldens, setters.....

Show breeders, imo, take a beautiful animal and turn it into a freak show with grossly exaggerated features and often, dare I say, a some what diluted intelligence level.

Can you tell I'm not a show breeder fan? Wink

coalscuttle · 28/02/2015 18:46

I am with you on the shows Grin I have a working springer and sprocker, unrecognisable from the show types... But, bedlingtons seem such an unusual breed the show seems my best place to start from! I have seen them in terrier tents at the game fair which started my interest - I heed to meet more of them though!

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BanKimoon · 28/02/2015 18:50

I don't have a bedlington but they're on my wish list! The ones I know (and several whippet/italian greyhound crosses) and lovely dogs, laid back but full of energy when out and about.

moosemama · 28/02/2015 19:54

I love Bedlingtons, but they're not for the faint hearted. They're real characters, lots of fun and full of life, but do tend to be incredibly stubborn and single minded and very hard work as pups, particularly if they're from working lines.

I've known quite a few Beddies and Beddie Lurchers and they've all been - erm, interesting Grin - but lots of fun and very affectionate. I'd really love a Beddie Lurcher myself.

Bear in mind that working-line terriers are not the same as working-line gundogs and can be very game dogs, which basically means they will have a strong prey-drive bred into them. Unlike many other terrier breeds they're built for speed too and the combination of speed and tenacity that comes with working likes is something many owners can't handle. Think intermittent or non-existent recall, disappearing off over the horizon at the first suggestion of a bunny or similar and sometimes having to deal with a failed kill if they actually manage to catch one up.

Re the shows. The game fair and working terrier and lurcher type shows would be a better place to find out more about working-line dogs and see some non-show (as in Kennel Club) Beddies and see them in action.

From the breed standard “Spirited and game, full of confidence. An intelligent companion with strong sporting instincts. Good tempered, having an affectionate nature, dignified, not shy or nervous. Mild in repose but full of courage when roused.”

I'd say that's an accurate description of the ones I've known.

My concerns with full breed Beddies would be Copper Toxicosis and Cushings, the latter of which is apparently an increasing problem for the breed, plus liver/kidney and some eye problems. If you are going to go for a pedigree you really need to do your research and make sure all the necessary testing is done and you've seen the results/evidence. This website might help. (I was looking into their health because I really wanted a Beddie Lurcher when I was looking for my last pup.)

Hope that helps.

coalscuttle · 28/02/2015 20:47

That's brilliant thank you, moosemama! I read that exact description from the breed standard too Grin. Im more worried about what it can do rather than kennel club standards. I didn't realise how whippety the working ones are, but that is quite encouraging. I have naughty beating spaniels rather than impeccably behaved peg dogs ;-) I have a good excuse now to loiter in the terrier tents at game fairs this summer Smile

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tabulahrasa · 28/02/2015 21:10

Do they have a huge working and showing seperation?

Some breeds don't have the massive difference that gundogs for example seem really prone to...

I don't know enough about bedlingtons to know whether they do or not.

coalscuttle · 28/02/2015 21:23

And any advice on how to locate breeders with working parents?!

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coalscuttle · 28/02/2015 21:24

Oh, I have just found working bedlington.co.uk Smile

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EasyToEatTiger · 28/02/2015 22:10

Just been to a talk about Craigie Aitchison in Aldeburgh. He was very fond of Bedlingtons, so in his memory there was a meeting of them on the beach. About 20 Bedlington Terriers for art!! It was lovely and so kind of all those people to bring along their dogs!

QueenQueenie · 28/02/2015 23:26

What can I say! They're fantastic dogs but not the easiest... Ours is 5 now and we love her very much. She's funny, full of character, very lively and engaging, fiercely loyal. She's also very stubborn, sensitive, noisy... and will chase anything small and fast moving at the drop of a hat - her lifelong ambition is to kill a squirrel.

I think that the main thing to remember at all times is that whilst they look super cute they are TERRIERS... with all that entails.

basildonbond · 28/02/2015 23:41

One of ddog's best friends is a bedlington/whippet x - they adore each other and have a blast running round and round in circles (my dog is v fast even though he's not a pointy) but we have to watch them when they're playing as she is obsessed with his ears and will sink her teeth into them as they're running along - she's drawn blood on a couple of occasions despite his thick fur

She's very sweet-natured with her family and people/dogs she knows well but can be unpredictable when strangers come to the house (ie delivery men etc)

She's been much harder to train than my dog - she doesn't get things that quickly and doesn't have an inbuilt desire to please but she's getting there gradually ..,

QueenQueenie · 28/02/2015 23:44

Very true! No inbuilt desire to please evident in our ddog. Not the least bit food motivated either... makes training quite a challenge.

coalscuttle · 01/03/2015 00:08

Mmmm my spaniels are naughty and will chase but they do have a big desire to please! Bedlingtons just don't look like they can be naughty!! Although I have watched some amazing videos on you tube of them ratting

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moosemama · 01/03/2015 12:36

I'd say that's a big difference between Beddies and gundog/Spaniel types. Although they love and are very loyal to their families, they just don't have that desire to please people that many other dogs have.

They tend to be very single-minded and keen to do their own thing and with their natural determination/tenacity that can make for a very interesting training process. Grin

I know a few people who were sucked in by super cute beddie/lurcher pups and got a very big shock when they realised what they'd taken on. Grin

spiderlight · 01/03/2015 12:48

We have a bedlington lurcher with a big dash of collie and he's fab! Was a perfect partner in crime for our working springer for eleven years and is still going strong and a real character at going on twelve. He's more collie-ish than terrier in temperament though and nervous with strangers (although he's a rescue and we think he had some pretty awful experienced before he came to us).

LimeJellyHead · 26/03/2015 20:28

I don't know anything about the working sort, but we had a rescue Beddie. What an amazing dog. They say they have the head of a lamb and the heart of a lion. Awwww :-) He was everything great about a terrier, such good fun. Yet he was also calm and sensible. He was pretty stupid though, in the nicest possible way. We used to call him "rocks for brains". He was a total poppet.

Gooner123 · 26/03/2015 20:41

We had a pure bred pedigree bedlington,he was a well oiled killing machine,and was still taking small furries @ the ripe old age of 15 yrs,I've met plenty of others that are pretty useless in that department so they're not all alike,but stubborn yes,affectionate & loving yes but as said a bit of a handful.
I currently have a beddyXwhippet and imo much easier to handle,lower maintanence,and a constantly makes me smile,with the rough coat they're just as hardy as a beddy but a bit quicker & easier/ cheaper to acquire.

Owllady · 26/03/2015 20:45

The only one I met was a pedigree female breeding machine. Locked up her whole life and paranoid :(
Then dumped in rescue when her breeding life was over

Mirshid · 26/03/2015 22:15

We have a lovely rescue bedlington who we got at the age of 5. She is now 13 and whilst I would agree she can be stubborn and single minded she is the most loving little dog I have ever come accross, can't imagine life without her, she is brilliant with my one year old dd despite having cataracts. Her only fault is her recall... Or rather complete lack of it! Would definitely have another no question in fact wouldn't want any other breed. Just be aware of copper toxicosis most litters I've seen on ads have not been tested and I believe its a largely fatal disease

LimeJellyHead · 27/03/2015 09:27

This was my lovely Boycie. When we rescued him it was hard to tell what breed he was under all that yellowing fur

Floralnomad · 27/03/2015 09:35

I walk with a lady with a Bedlington x ,she got him when he was 7/8 years old he's an absolute sweety but a bit aloof with other dogs - which suits me because I have a Patterdale x who is much the same . He does have issues with loud noises and also has separation anxiety , but that's probably more to do with his history than his breed .

maitaimojito · 27/03/2015 09:46

My friend had a rescue and he was a lovely dog.

He must have been badly treated by his previous owner as he was very jumpy if anyone made a loud noise and used to jump a mile if anyone got up quickly or he thought they were going to kick him. Poor thing.

He was affectionate with anyone that had been allowed in the house but would bark if he heard anyone outside.

Generally fine with other dogs but would give a warning snap at them if they were bothering him on a walk once he got older and past the play stage! A bit like most terriers really.

He loved to chase and caught a few animals in the fields. The main problem they had with him was that he wouldn't come back until he had finished what he was doing. Very stubborn and not really food orientated so training could be a bit difficult.

moosemama · 27/03/2015 10:22

Jelly what a beautiful tribute to your gorgeous boy. You can really see what a huge part of your life he was. Sitting here with tears streaming.

LimeJellyHead · 27/03/2015 10:46

Awww, thank you and sorry to make your eyes leak. Yes, he was a wonderful boy and a massive part of my life and heart. I can't believe he has been gone 6 years. A dogs only downfall, isn't it... their short little lives.

moosemama · 27/03/2015 10:59

It definitely is, sadly - and don't say sorry, it's lovely to see a dog so very loved by his people. Smile

Something in his face, reminded me of my Soft Coated Wheaten girl. She passed 5 1/2 years ago now and like you I can hardly believe she's been gone that long.

I have two other great furry numpties to keep me busy, but I still miss the ones that are no longer with us every day.