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If you're worried about your pet's health, please speak to a vet or qualified professional.

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2 seasons in 11 weeks- for the love of god please advise me!!

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TheFantasticMrsFox · 16/02/2015 23:03

Just that really ^^

DDog3 started her season on 27th November. The past few days she has been attracting attention from DDog2 and, looking back has been a bit "off". Tonight there are blood stains on the dog bed

This was sooo not meant to happen. DDogs1&2 are entire and her first season was horrendous for all parties (I'm almost 100% she hasn't had a split season, she was "in" for a little over three weeks, she was definitely standing and the boys were very adamant that "the time was right" IYKWIM?)

The idea was to speak to the vet and have her spayed next month. I had no inkling she would come in again so soon :(

I really need realistic advice about the likelihood of a vet spaying her while in season, or jabbing her to suppress it (I'm aware that there are risks attached to both but I'm not sure if we can cope with another full season) I was also about to change vets as I'm not overly happy with my current practise. Assuming they refuse to do either, is it unethical of me to phone around and pick a new vet on the basis of whoever might help us?

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GreySlippersBobby · 16/02/2015 23:20

Firstly you need an appointment - to rule out the slim chance of pyometra.

If she has come in again already, then a shot of delvosterone might suppress it if given quickly (ie by tomorrow). I doubt you'll find many vets keen to spay her while she's in season. I wouldn't want to.

You must be tearing your hair out :(

GreySlippersBobby · 16/02/2015 23:21

Sorry, not unethical, but why not call around other vets anyway if you're planning to change?

a2011x · 16/02/2015 23:59

I doubt they will spay while in season. , no one would ours ( I wasn't aware of the risks when I asked at first )

Seek advice regarding the 'second season' it's definitely quite odd

SunshineAndShadows · 17/02/2015 00:05

I agree that she needs to be checked for pyometra or other pathology. Many vets will spay in season - it's slightly more challenging but usually ok however there can be behavioural effects - see this link for evaluating a good time to spay based on behaviour
www.apbc.org.uk/system/files/private/summary_sheet_of_spaying_risks_and_benefits_bitch.pdf

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TheFantasticMrsFox · 17/02/2015 03:21

Thanks all :)
Yes grey, tearing my hair out just about covers it. I left for work and DH was just sat there with a haunted look on his face :o

TBH the horror stories I read (thank you Google) about the jab, coupled with the fact it's not immediate make me more inclined to see if I can get a vet to spay her now :(
We were at least expecting it WRT cost and hassle so not like it's a huge upheaval.

Looks like a morning of phone calls ahead of me- will keep you posted :)

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daisydotandgertie · 17/02/2015 04:26

What colour is the discharge?

And are you 100% certain they didn't mate? Absolutely? If they did, the pregnancy would be approaching full term now.

daisydotandgertie · 17/02/2015 04:28

Is it bright red, brownish or green?

Lonecatwithkitten · 17/02/2015 07:20

With an experienced surgeon spaying when in season is no more difficult than performing a pyometra surgery or c-section. I do, do bitches in season when there are compelling medical reasons. So yes having a chat is a good idea.

Lonecatwithkitten · 17/02/2015 07:20

Daisy is of course right you should have her checked for pregnancy or pyo.

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TheFantasticMrsFox · 17/02/2015 07:24

daisy we were scrupulous (we knew what was coming and were well prepared in advance. She was only allowed one season as she was unsocialised when we got her, and we felt that socialising was more important and would be hampered by having the op. I still stand by that decision, but am rueful today!) Three separate cages, only one dog out at a time and only ever when either DH or I were around (not DS) She didn't go out from towards the end of the first week and even after, we never lost sight of her. I would be absolutely gobsmacked (and I mean genuinely gobsmacked) if she was pregnant. She is half whippet as well so no space to hide babies. Also she is attracting DDog2's attention, would she do that if she was about to give birth?

The discharge is red, but as heavy as it was at its heaviest point during her season Hmm There was no blood yesterday lunchtime, it started at some point yesterday evening. She still seems in rudely good health but I am waiting on tenterhooks for the vets to open.

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TheFantasticMrsFox · 17/02/2015 09:02

Crap..... still waiting for call back from the vets (DH has the car today- typical) but she was clearly happy to see me home this morning. Now things have calmed down she's lethargic and she smells sort of.......bloody IYKWIM :(
She ate this morning but TBH she's the type who would eat on her deathbed. I'm trying to be calm but she's DS's dog and hes starting to panic as we haven't had a call back

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basildonbond · 17/02/2015 09:08

Can you call a taxi and take her straight to the vet? Sounds worrying - keeping fingers crossed

daisydotandgertie · 17/02/2015 09:11

What does her fanny look like?

And are you able to take her temp?

LesleyKnopeFan · 17/02/2015 09:15

Mine had first season as six months, spaying booked for 12 weeks later, then 10 weeks later, had another season.

Vets agreed that we should spay 'out of the normal cycle' and go for 6 weeks later, THEN she had a phantom pregnancy! Had to wait 2 weeks, got her checked over to check phantom had gone and she was spayed.

Dog is fine, op was a success, healed quickly and no residual issues.

She is not normal a bit different from most dogs though!

Good luck. Hope all ok. Btw, I bought a spray from an experienced local pet shop that calmed other dogs around her and stopped her from attracting unwanted attention, it's charmingly call 'bitch spray' ??

LesleyKnopeFan · 17/02/2015 09:19

And she was definitely mopey and not herself when I'm season the 2nd time, and I can recall the blood smell too. Let us know how she is. Do you have a friend or local person who can get you to vets, if need be?

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TheFantasticMrsFox · 17/02/2015 09:31

She's swollen gertie similar to later on in her first season. And no, no thermometer (my days of probing animals orifices are long gone!)
The vet nurse has phoned back to explain there is an emergency in progress and we have not been forgotten. We have however been labelled as "an emergency" call back so shouldn't be too long. Then I can either call a neighbour or a taxi as necessary.

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daisydotandgertie · 17/02/2015 10:29

What about boobs? Has she boob tissue?

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TheFantasticMrsFox · 17/02/2015 13:16

Not noticeably gertie just slightly larger nipples that appeared at her first season and then remained. I assumed it to be a sign of maturity and particularly obvious when she is so sleek framed- in general I am used to hairier dogs!

Still waiting for vets to call back, apparently it's "manic" there and I will be called "at some point" Angry Sadly I can hardly rock up at the surgery with her without an appointment as I will have nowhere to keep her until we can be seen. Hopefully DH will be able to get home early.

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mrslaughan · 17/02/2015 14:02

I have no experience of female dogs, but someone made a comment to me the other day that a bitch in season being around male dogs can cause a split season......I have no idea what this is, or if it's just a old wives myth, and would have thought that one of the vets up thread would have mentioned it......but thought I would throw it into the mix......

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TheFantasticMrsFox · 17/02/2015 16:58

I'm sure it's not a split season mrs, that was one of my first avenues of investigation.

We have an appointment at 5.30pm. The vet mentioned pyometra so that's obviously on their radar, but has declined to spay her if it's not. He will however give her the jab which is a relief, then spay in 8 weeks time.

Will update later :)

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TheFantasticMrsFox · 17/02/2015 18:43

Several £s lighter and we are home :)
Vet diagnosed a vaginal infection, hence the smell but after a quick furtle about, concluded it was low down. She has been jabbed, had temperature taken, internal exam, weighed and is on ABs. It's fair to say she's rather shell shocked by the experience :o

She's also booked in to be spayed in 8 weeks :o

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MyFeatheryHat · 09/03/2015 09:27

here we go again Hmm
Season number 3 in 3 months

MyFeatheryHat · 09/03/2015 09:28

Oops, OP under a name change :)

basildonbond · 09/03/2015 09:46

Eek - but wasn't the second time an infection not a season? What does your vet say?

Branleuse · 09/03/2015 09:54

can you get the males done too? If youve got entire dogs of both sexes then it seems a bit weird to freak out about the female coming into season and spaying her during a season when you can more easily and safely get the males balls off, then worry about your girl when its safer.

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