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WWYD? Elderly greyhound

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RosesOnTheWane · 03/01/2014 10:42

Hi,
We have 2 rescue greyhounds, aged 11 and 12. This time last year, older greyhound boy got a tumour on one of his front toes. We had it removed and he recovered well. Vet said it was possible that it was cancerous and that he might have cancer elsewhere.
He recovered well and has been ok for a year, though less active ( if that's possible for a greyhound!) In the last month or so he has gone downhill a bit - been even more tired, not keen for walks, walking into things a bit. He still has his 'mad minutes' racing about in the lounge. He is still waggy and doesn't seem sad.
He is not insured at the moment. Knowing how greys can take a lot of pain without grumbling makes me worried that he might be in pain and not letting us know. He does occasionally ( about once a week) stand up from sleeping and 'shout' as though he has cramp or something. We have been to the Vet before about this but the vet couldn't find anything wrong. He fetches and coughs as though he has a hairball several times a day but has done this for a couple of years. Again, vet could not find a reason.

WWYD? If he's just old, we'd rather he go in his sleep as long as he's not in pain. We can't afford loads of investigations and he is old. But our other greyhound girl will be devastated when he dies and so will we.

They are our first greys so we have no experience of them ageing. Any help very welcome. Many thanks.

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RosesOnTheWane · 03/01/2014 12:13

Sorry - also forgot to mention that even though he is reluctant to go out in the garden and for walks. he is struggling to 'hold it' when we take him for his walks - often has a wee or a poo as his lead is being put on. He looks so embarrassed about it.

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CMOTDibbler · 03/01/2014 12:27

He doesn't sound very well tbh. I'd go to the vets and maybe do some xrays to check his spine and legs

RosesOnTheWane · 03/01/2014 12:30

CMOT - for 'normal' old age greyhounds, is it just a slowing down then?
Don't know what is elderly and what might be cancer.
Suppose if he is unhappy it doesn't matter either way.

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RosesOnTheWane · 03/01/2014 17:54

Bumping for evening traffic on the pointy hounds board.

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Greyhorses · 03/01/2014 20:18

I would get him in for a work up, vets can identify most obvious masses via X-ray/scan/bloods or a combination of the above which will give you a definitive answer.

I think a lot of things can be just general slowing down though. Incontinance, bad teeth (so common in hounds) and pain (joints especially) could all be due to aging, and I've also known dogs to shout whilst sleeping due to going a little senile or also brain issues as well as pain!
Although every greyhound I have worked with has been very wimpy- in fact in my job they are well known for it!

There is no way to know without investigations unfortunately. If you can't afford those I would be tempted to look into suitable pain relief whilst he is still happy then consider PTS once he becomes unmanageable.

cinnamongreyhound · 03/01/2014 20:23

We lost out girl in may she went downhill over one day and we had her pts that night. But she had been a bit stiff getting up for a while and was more than happy with 2 x 10 mins walk a day. She are well, came for fusses regularly, had mad moments as you say but was generally slower and quieter than she had been. The vet wanted to put her on anti inflammatories for her stiffness but we found a food with glucosamine and chondroitin made a huge difference to her joints. Don't have experience of the cough though. I do feel you know your dog and you should trust your instincts. My experience of greyhounds is the opposite to then putting up with pain without grumbling, they are wussy! I tend to be more in favour of putting a dog to sleep rather than letting them suffer but I also know how hard it is to let you. He just sounds like an old dog to me, do you trust your vet? I feel at times mine only want money :(

RosesOnTheWane · 03/01/2014 23:32

Thank you all.
I think we will take him back to the vets. We don't mind paying if we can improve his quality of life but are reluctant to shell out hundreds of pounds if it just puts him through more stress and we can't help him much if you see what I mean.
I do trust our vet, but our old boy is so nervous of the vet it is a big trauma for him just to visit. Maybe I will try to get a home visit.

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RosesOnTheWane · 03/01/2014 23:32

And sorry to hear about your girl, cinnamon.

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mistlethrush · 04/01/2014 08:56

We lost our last dog at 12 - she wasn't a pointy but might have had a bit of grey in her ancestry. She got bone cancer and went downhill very quickly.

We've just had a lump removed from our new lurcher (rescued) - luckily it was benign - it was sent away to be analysed after being removed.

At that age I would agree that you might not want to look at anything intrusive, but the vet may well be able to suggest something that will help him more comfortable. I would definitely comment on the accidents too as they might indicate an infection or something that could be easily treated and make a big difference.

Scuttlebutter · 05/01/2014 00:28

Hi Roses, we have four senior greyhounds at the moment, and have owned/fostered more previously.

Not directly a suggestion, but may i share a little story with you? About seven years ago, we had our first oldie, who had arthritis. Up until then, I'd previously been an owner who had just accepted that getting old meant stiffness, poor QOL, incontinence, forgetfulness etc. Our then vet completely changed my way of thinking - it was a real paradigm shift moment. He was really passionate about older dogs and especially their quality of life, and challenged me at a very deep level about my thinking/approach to how we managed her care. Instead of simply accepting some quite serious issues hampering her quality of life, he encouraged us to think hard about how we could together improve and maintain her QOL. This is in no way to minimise the ageing process, and I would never advocate keeping a dog alive for instance who is in pain, but I have come to believe that in general terms we are often too quick to accept outcomes that can be quite markedly improved with appropriate care. We knew that we could never cure her arthritis for instance but I wanted it to be something she died with, not died because of if that makes sense.

Since then, I've developed my interest in the care of older dogs and am very lucky to have several friends also involved with rescue who are also passionate about/experienced with oldies and we spend many happy hours discussing care and how it can be improved.

The biggest thing is your relationship with your vet - they should be a trusted professional ally. You know that old saying about how a year in human terms is seven dog years - would you let a 80 year old relative go seven years without a checkup at the doctor? You'll probably have an annual check up anyway but with a senior dog (say, 10 plus) I'd be comfortable with checks more often. For this, I'd go through every aspect of their care including diet, weight, exercise, sleep, living conditions, lifestyle etc - has anything changed? If so what, and how much? Looking at the dog itself - consider things like skin, weight, eyesight and hearing, teeth (big issue in greys - our 10 year old had her last four teeth taken out on Friday), appetite, mobility, any changes in muscle tone, etc.

Example - our 10 year old grey just before Christmas - her breath suddenly started to smell and I could see one of her teeth was discoloured. I could also on closer inspection see what looked like a small ulcer in her mouth. Took her to the vet - straight onto ABs and painkillers for the immediate festive period with a GA booked after the holidays. That led to all 4 teeth coming out but what it also revealed was that there was a big abscess that had actually formed a fistula into the nasal cavity - no wonder her breath smelled. Sad Many people accept poor teeth and bad breath in elderly dogs without thinking about the pain and other health problems they could be leaving untreated.

Anyway, mini essay over. Apologies but this is something I am really invested in (as you've probably guessed). To summarise, back to the vet, consider each issue in turn, don't be afraid to ask questions, discuss, research, and do everything possible to work in partnership with your vet to create a great life for your two amazing hounds. In general, greys and lurchers are actually very healthy compared to many other pedigree breeds and the problems they do have are often related to consequences of their previous working lives.

YourHandInMyHand · 05/01/2014 17:22

I agree with getting him looked over by the vet in a non invasive way, and look at each issue separately to see what can be done to improve things for him.

Don't know what I will do when my grey gets old, she means the world to me so I can understand you wanting the best solution for yours.

RosesOnTheWane · 05/01/2014 18:52

Thank you Scuttlebutter and MyHand.

We have an appt on Tuesday so we will see what the vet says.

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