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Are you a Greyhound, Whippet or Lurcher owner? Come and have a seat on another new pointy hounds cushion!

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WhenSantaGotStuckUpACunnyFunt · 16/12/2013 19:32

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Lurchers
Italian Greyhounds (Iggys)
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Come The Day
Come the day I take that final bend,
Can I count on you to be my friend?
To see I’m treated just and fair,
It means so much to know you care.

For, what the future holds in store,
Now that I can race no more,
Should be addressed for every hound,
Who parts the punter from his pound.

Tell them I don’t ask for much,
A kindly word, a gentle touch,
Somewhere warm to lay my head,
A meal each day to keep me fed,
Not just life- but quality,
This is how it ought to be.

Do not see me swept away,
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With peace of mind, tranquillity,
And those who care surrounding me,
So tell them all- you have that choice,
I beg of you to be my voice.

By Denise Dubarbier.

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PeanutPatty · 18/03/2014 13:52

Tale? Tail!

Glad it's not just me Mistle! It's really made my head hurt.

TheCunnyFuntIsGettingMarried · 18/03/2014 20:36

The top video on this page has some good ideas for keeping your dogs brain engaged. I use the toilet roll tip quite often with Sprocket. I stumbled across this site when I was on the hunt for a new food for His Excellency.

mistlethrush · 19/03/2014 09:29

Cunny - how are your wedding plans going? Have you got Sprocket a bow tie yet?

TheCunnyFuntIsGettingMarried · 19/03/2014 12:05

Slowly, thanks for asking :) Trying to book the ceremony venue, received the paperwork for it last week, booking form etc, they've only gone and put the price up by £195!!! The room was expensive enough for just the ceremony without a bloody price increase. The wedding planner who is in charge of the ceremony venue said someone from the council was meant to ring me and let me know about the increase but they didn't so the WP's going to try and get them to honour the original price. So until that's all sorted out I can't really get on with anything else. Hopefully going dress shopping next wednesday though. The venue should be all sorted by then so we'll be good to go.

TheCunnyFuntIsGettingMarried · 19/03/2014 12:08

Sprocket's not allowed inside :( but people walk their dogs in the grounds all the time so I'm going to try and find someone who'll babysit him outside for me and then hand him over for photo's :) I want to get him one of these.

PeanutPatty · 19/03/2014 12:34

Someone tell me and reassure me that the puddle I've come home to in the kitchen is part of the settling in process. The Simple Solution stuff I've got is for carpets Sad. I didn't realise that there was a hard floor and surface version. I've used it anyway! I could smell the wee as soon as I came through the front door.

mistlethrush · 19/03/2014 12:46

It's either one of those things/settling in or its a sign of an illness... Keep an eye on things and go to vets if things don't improve, meanwhile take a step backwards with the housetraining and reinforce the positives of going out and not in.

moosemama · 19/03/2014 13:47

Peanut, first off it's most likely settling in, but as mistle said, keep a close eye on him just in case.

The simple solution will work fine, it's still the right enzymes, I think the carpet one is just more absorbent to make sure it gets right into the fibres.

If you get a chance, do a quick MN search on Lilcamper's name in the doghouse for 'toilet training' she has a foolproof guide that works for adults as well as pups and will really help him grasp what's expected of him.

cinnamongreyhound · 19/03/2014 21:29

That sucks about your venue TheCunnyFuntIsGettingMarried! Babies and weddings can be sure to cause a massive increase in prices for no reason at all!!!

Stick with it peanutpatty, I despaired at peanut a times but he got there in the end. He had never been in a house before so we allowed him a bit of leeway but still got frustrated. We just put him out regularly and straight after every accident and praised him with every time he wee'd outside. He was afraid of pooing while on walk to start with and the first time he did he cowered, made me so sad.

PeanutPatty · 20/03/2014 08:21

Thanks for the support. He really does drink quite a lot. Yesterday he drank half a bowl within 30mins. Admittedly it was not long after his walk but he was on lead (he's quite lazy unless he sees a furry). This morning he's drunk another third of a bowl and we've not been out yet. Does that seem a lot? Pooch hardly drinks at all in comparison. I'm hoping it's not an illness.

Congratulations on the wedding planning Cunny! I loves a wedding. GrinGrin Loads of fun.

mistlethrush · 20/03/2014 08:52

Peanut - yes, I would say that does sound quite a bit - although mistlehound does drink quite a bit too - dry kibble food definitely doesn't help. Mistlehound thought you did things 'inside' when we got her (also very unlikely to ever have been in a house before). We took her out on a lead rein in the garden to focus the mind...

moosemama · 20/03/2014 09:13

My two tend not to drink much during the day, although Pip will have the odd small drink, as he's still on three meals a day - but both can empty a full bowl in minutes in the evening after their meal or when we come back from a walk.

Lurcherboy in particular tends not to drink regularly, then take a lot all in one go. I think this makes it more urgent when he does need a wee, because he has a full bladder, iyswim.

PeanutPatty · 20/03/2014 14:45

Can I run something else by you all?

So Blue trots keenly on lead through the woods. Obviously the sounds and movement of furries has an impact. He's not really a sniffer. I get that e is a sighthound but compared to Pooch he has about five sniffs on the entire walk and those are pre wee/poo. As soon as we hit open parkland he literally drags his heels. He hangs back. If Pooch disappears or is some distance from us he is even worse. I don't know if its a confidence issue or what?

He's been great meeting some dogs. Dogs who approach too keenly or with their hackles up I'm not sure how to handle. Avoid? Let them meet? If we meet any barky dogs or if Pooch gets barky in play with him or another dog this makes him a bit reactive/excited. I can't quite read it and I'm not sure what his intentions are yet. Any thoughts?

I'm not normally this neurotic. Honest. Wink

moosemama · 20/03/2014 17:51

Just read back enormous post warning! Wink

The open spaces thing does sound a bit like insecurity. Do you know anything about his background?

As for meeting other dogs thing, I have no advice, as I have the same dilemma about whether/how to avoid the in yer face, rude dogs - and there do seem to be a lot of them about. When you say he gets reactive/excited, what does he actually do?

Lurcherboy recently started getting a bit bouncy when he saw other dogs while he was on the lead. He was doing a kind of stiff bodied pouncing up and down and I was worried it might be aggression, especially as he barked/bayed a couple of times too. He even seemed stalky with a couple of little dogs, which despite being a Lurcher, is totally out of character for him, so then I really started to fret that something was up. A few more walks - plus a course of eyedrops and realisation that both dogs had what was basically a doggie cold and I realised it was actually just over-excitement. Our old girls never really played with him and whilst they'd say a polite hello to dogs that approached them, were never interested in initiating interaction with other dogs in the park. Lurcherboy followed suit and pretty much ignored most dogs out and about. I think having Pip has made him realise the potential fun he could be having with other dogs, so now he just wants to go and play and gets over-excited/frustrated when he's on the lead because of it.

It could be that he's used to running loose with other dogs and find the lead frustrating, alternatively, being restricted by the lead might make him feel vulnerable, but it's so hard to tell without actually seeing him in action, iyswim.

You will get used to his body language and find it easier to read him, it just takes time. He won't have started to unpack his baggage yet and you will be somewhat on edge trying to do right by him and not make any mistakes. There will come a point where you both start to relax and one day you'll realise you've just had a lovely walk without even thinking about it.

... and you're not neurotic at all, you just care about your new boy. Smile

I have had a breakthrough with Pip today. I went out for coffee with my Mum and was gone for an hour and 15 minutes ... and Pip didn't make any noise, other than a little whine when the phone rang. The penny dropped last week that leaving him with enough treats and kongs etc to keep him busy meant that he needed to go out almost as soon as he finished eating and that's when he started making a racket.

With me having been quite ill over the last couple of months, he's got used to me shutting the kitchen door while I go for lie down and we managed to get up to them being in the kitchen for two hours with no problems - and no kongs etc. (Prior to that he would yell if I even went upstairs) So I decided to try doing the same, just shuting the door, leaving the TV on and leaving the house quietly - and it worked. Grin

Now I need to work on gradually building up the time and getting him used to the sounds of me leaving without them becoming negative signals.

It feels like a chink of hope, having been stuck at home pretty much since we lost Oldgirl, as first Lurcherboy had his stint of SA, then we ended up with a high-needs pup.

I was so worried it was me/something I'd done, having just been through it with Lurcherboy, but have been reassured, by someone I really respect to do with canine behaviour, that it's far more likely to be down to his difficult start in life. No mum from birth, then vets for a few days (touch-and-go) then surrogate mum but not for as long as most pups are with mum, then to the foster home. So no consistent mother-pup bond and three moves before he was more than a few weeks old, then he came to us and was really poorly = end result needy pup.

So we're finally getting there with him and I might be able to claw back a small fragment of an actual life! Grin

PeanutPatty · 20/03/2014 18:55

Moose that is fabulous news about Pip and his SA. So pleased for you I really am. Go Pip!

Thanks for your reply too. So Blue's background as we know was that he was with the rescue when he was a year old. He was then placed with a family for two years. The marriage broke up. He remained in the home and he was being walked or let out at lunchtime but then this stopped and the husband felt it wasn't fair on him to be left all day hence surrendering him back to the rescue. The family had very young children and a cat. I asked if he was clean/destructive in the home and the response was "they haven't said he was". Thinking about it now I should have said "have you asked them directly?" Hindsight is useful but pretty useless. Why didn't I think of this before? So I'm wondering if everything has been truthful......

His reaction to our cat is less than favourable. Lots of high pitched barking and rushing at him. I've kept them separate. The cat did stand his ground and hiss and Blue lunged at him. BlushGlad he had his muzzle on. Not really sure how to progress it. The advice was to praise and treat him when he looks away from the cat. It's a bit hard to do this if the hound won't take his eyes of the moggy.

When he is on lead and high energy dogs come over and they bark he barks back and starts spinning and bouncing. It all happens so quickly that I am probably missing key things. Plus I'm not a dog expert let alone a pointy one and I don't know what I'm looking for unless its really obvious.

I do think he is insecure. He looks very worried and unsure. He skulks around a bit. I think he has been told off a fair bit. He licks his lips a fair bit when telling him to sit or lie down and wait eg whilst I get his grub ready. He doesn't always come when I call. He stands and looks at me blankly. Sometimes there is no reaction apart from a woeful stare.

So today he went out for a walk this morning. Then again this afternoon for 40mins and he did loads of wees including two massive ones. We get back and he drinks the water bowl dry. Two hours later he goes into the garden and wees on a scooter. Then after his dinner which wasn't long after the scooter inciden, he goes back outside and does a mega wee for what seemed like a minute. He also manages to wee all over his front paws. How do I clean his paws? I don't want him coming back in the house spreading wee prints around. To me the weeing seems way above average.

Everyone still with me? Bet I'm boring the arse off you all.

FiscalCliffRocksThisTown · 20/03/2014 21:04

No, it is interesting but I have no answers!

Only had my own lurcher for 2 months now.

The "looking sad" thing is something they do, but doesn't mean they ARE sad, it is just thag sighthounds are used to staring into the distance, which looks sad but isn't.

As to telling off, I think they are much more sensitive yhan your average dog. Even a gentle "no!" Has my Roo all worried.

Scuttlebutter · 20/03/2014 21:21

Peanut, the weeing sounds absolutely normal. Ours have individual weeing styles - Sara is a "little and often" girl while Andy is like yours and does a giant Niagara Falls less frequently. And yes, he is stupid enough to wee over his feet quite often, and since we have four, it's not unusual for one of the boys to end up weeing on one of the other's heads when they are all having a particularly exciting sniff out on walks.

With regard to sniffing on walks, a dog who is very relaxed and confident will enjoy sniffing - but even then remember he is a sighthound, so is always going to be less interested in this than in looking around for squirrels. Again, you can expect individual variations in sniff interest - we have one super keen sniffer, one completely indifferent, one mostly indifferent and one who will sniff happily if he's in a good mood/relaxed, but he took a long while to get into it. Given his background, he may not be used to a dog walk that pets do, and may not ever have been much to a park, so is still on that learning curve. Give time and encourage confidence.

From hsi behaviour, it sounds as though the poor boy is still struggling to find his feet and is clearly very nervous. I'd concentrate on gradually getting him used to you and building his confidence - focus on giving him a recognisable routine every day, make sure no-one shouts at him or is very noisy around him and that he has plenty of downtime/quiet space.

I would think about doing a little bit of clicker work with him at home, this will be something that will help engage him and again it's all about building confidence, and him seeing you as the fount of all good things. Keep treats on you all day long and call/treat randomly throughout the day - again, you are building up in his mind that the relationship with you is a Good Thing.

Above all, please be patient - our Andy had been in kennels for a long time before coming to us, and was very shut down when he arrived. We saw gradual improvements as he settled in, but I'd say it was a year before I could really say he'd blossomed, and it took longer than that for instance for him to get used to DH cuddling him (now they ar inseperable and he likes nothing more than to lie on DH while he is watching TV).

mistlethrush · 20/03/2014 21:29

My lurcher doesn't have any saluki in her and rarely looks 'sad'. She looked alert a lot when we first got her. And she does anxious well too.

I went to one of Jim Greenwood's sessions - if you could get to one I think that you would find it really helpful. He is a lurcher expert - any sighthounds would have similar issues I think.

We had some very reactive dogs in that session. One of the things that he recommended for reactive dogs is to make sure you take the lead - so if there is a dog that looks to be a potential problem approaching, get between it and your dog and take the heat off. Also, loose leads are better than tight ones - because the dog can take themselves to a safe place rather than being held somewhere they feel unsafe - this of course depends upon your dog which approach you need to take. He was really good at showing you what signs to look for in your dog - where their current limit was, what to look for etc.

Mistlehound showed distinct signs of SA when we had had her a few weeks. Today, when I got home from work she came hurtling downstairs - she had clearly decided that the best place to be if you're feeling a bit lonely was on a bed that you don't normally get to sleep on. She's been left two days now with just our dog walker at lunch time - I've been stuck at work, DH is away... She's come so far since we've had her!!!

TheCunnyFuntIsGettingMarried · 20/03/2014 21:39

Weeing on the feet runs in the family. My boy Sprocket is Scuttle's Andy's brother. He more often has yellow front paws rather than white Hmm I have a shallow bucket type thing (you know those flexi tubs?) with warm water and baby shampoo which I dunk his paws into when he comes inside if he's done it really bad. If it's just a brief squirt onto the back of his leg I just give it a quick swipe with a baby wipe!

TheCunnyFuntIsGettingMarried · 20/03/2014 21:42

Moose that's such fabulous news with your two, you've worked so bloody hard to get them both up to this point and it's really paid off. I hope you get your life back soon :)

CMOTDibbler · 20/03/2014 21:51

Mine likes to drink hugely, either from his bowl or preferably from ditches (disgusting dog). If we've been out on the green in front of our house which has a nice ditch he'll need several huge wees over the next hour.

Cmotdog is sad tonight as ds is on a school trip, and he's always here at night, so needs searching for at intervals

mistlethrush · 20/03/2014 22:31

Cmot - its lovely isn't it - mistlehound has gone upstairs to check that DS is in bed and come down very happily ( and is upside down beside me now, safe in the knowledge that DS is asleep in his bed and she's opened his door wide... )

Re yellow legs - get a bitch next time Wink

Mind doesn't go for ditches as much as liquid mud to drink... I do remonstrate!

PeanutPatty · 21/03/2014 14:31

Thanks for all the replies and sharing of experiences and advice.

Like the baby shampoo and trug tub for yellow paws. Grin

This morning I took them out and put Blue on the long line on the playing fields. I thought he might have taken the opportunity to go after Pooch and have a zoomie or a mad five mins but nothing. He trotted along behind me except he was even further behind than normal as the long line meant he could. He didn't like the line round his feet and would freeze. Blush It's probably still early days and I'm sure once he's got his confidence I will be having my arms yanked out. We bumped into a neighbour with a young Dally who came bounding over and I did a detour and yelled that I wasn't sure how Blue would be. I said probably fine but I wanted him to be on the ball instead of watching his dog cause me oodles of issues. He decided to call his dog back and it listened. Blue was very laid back with a JRT yesterday so that was good.

I'm taking the minis out for the afternoon and so far today I've walked the dogs for an hour this morning then again at 11am for 30mins and just before we came out I took the dogs for a wee (again Blue must have wee'd for about a minute - there is so much of it!). I hope that when we get back there aren't any puddles!

TheCunnyFuntIsGettingMarried · 21/03/2014 19:42

Woohoo! Wedding planner rang earlier, she said the english heritage and the council are happy to honour the original price for the venue :o

Peanut Sprocket is the wrt the lead, if he steps over it so the lead is in between his front legs and it touches his armpit, he'll stop dead and won't walk another step until I've sorted the lead out.

TheCunnyFuntIsGettingMarried · 21/03/2014 19:43

Sprocket is the same that should've said.