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New puppy housetraining help.

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GeorgianMumto5 · 17/09/2013 08:51

We have our puppy! Picked him up on Sunday. He's 9.5 weeks, so he's very young and very new. We've been teaching him his name and playing recall games with him and he seems great at all of that.

I'm having less success with housetraining. I realise it's still early days and am prepared for it to take a while, but can I just go through what I've been doing and would you tell me if this approach is likely to work? He's a toy poodle BTW.

We have a crate, which he seems happy with. At the breeder's home he lived in a newspaper lined puppy playpen. He happily poos and wees on the newspaper in there, which is what he's used to. He's only in there now if we're all out of the room. When he's out I have a sheet of newspaper in the kitchen. When he looks like he's about to go, I take him to the paper. This appears to be his cue to pee on the floor, not the paper. Yesterday we had one success where he sought out the paper to poo. I praised him and gave him a treat immediately.

The other thing I'm doing is taking him in the back garden every hour. I play games with him, so the garden seems like a fun place to be. Mainly he sits on my feet out there. I've tried taking paper out there too, but he reckons there's no way he'll pee/poo out there. Yesterday I borrowed an older puppy to demonstrate. Georgiandog looked surprised, but took it no further.

Since it is chilly and he is tiny, we stay out for 5 mins. In theory we go back out 10 mins later, although he usually poos/pees on the floor 1 minute later. Or he holds it until back in the crate.

Any ideas for how to persuade him grass is the way forward?

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GeorgianMumto5 · 17/09/2013 09:55

I'm out there now. The puppy was sneaking out farts, so I know he needs to go, plus it's been nearly four hours since the last one. C'mon, Puppy, poop!

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LadyTurmoil · 17/09/2013 10:08

Sounds like it's going well so far - but pictures please! Grin

GeorgianMumto5 · 17/09/2013 10:23

Ha ha! You're no help. Grin OK, picture later.

I have to go out briefly and buy food now, leaving the pup ample opportunity to poo in his crate. It's been over four hours now. How can he hold it so long?!?

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Floralnomad · 17/09/2013 10:28

I'd do away with the paper indoors as you want him to know that he only place to go is outside . Use a key word that he learns to associate with doing his business ,it works for life ,we use 'go quickly' . He shouldn't want to soil his crate so if its quite large it may be an idea to partition it off and leave him in a smaller area . When you are outside for toileting don't play with him ,that time is purely for doing his business. If you think he is going to be cold get him a little coat to wear .

GeorgianMumto5 · 17/09/2013 12:47

Ah, OK. Yes, the crate is big, whereas the dog is bordering on microscopic. How much of the night will he last if I partition his crate? I can't hear him when I go to bed. I'd sleep on the sofa, but it is too short. If I bring him upstairs I will have to run down two flights of stairs in the night.

Also, when is this dog going to poo?!? Two in the night, none since. He's had all his breakfast and half his lunch. Surely this is sufficient intake to prompt some output? He's far from constipated, going by his usual poos. Where is he keeping it all?!?

Thank you.

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LittleRedDinosaur · 17/09/2013 12:57

I second getting rid of the newspaper. Our working cocker is 5 months old now. It took FOREVER to successfully toilet train. We had a puppy trainer out to the house for tips but she said we were doing it all right and it just takes little female puppies a long time to work it out (not very helpful, sorry!)
We took her out every 10 minutes (no joke) in the beginning. And went way overboard with the praise and treats for any wees and poos outside and ignored the accidents inside. We tried to make a loud noise and then hurry her out if we caught her in the act but she was a stealth wee-er and most of the time there was just a little puddle.
We said "busy busy busy" whenever she was weeing outside and now she wees on command- very helpful when it's raining and you just want her to wee and then come in.
Good luck. It feels like it takes ages but does get better!

LittleRedDinosaur · 17/09/2013 12:58

Re the poos- have a look at his bottom. Our next door neighbours labradoodle had a plug of hair in her bum and stopped pooing. (Dogs are gross!)

GeorgianMumto5 · 17/09/2013 13:08

The things you have to do when you live with a dog! OK, just looked at the puppy's bum and all looks well. Admittedly I'm no expert on dog bums, but it looked normal to me.

He seems to need to go in the night. How will he manage if I partition his crate? He hasn't been since before 6 a.m. At that point there were two poo piles in his crate. I don't think they were two halves of the same poo. Nothing since.

I'm becoming obsessed!

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basildonbond · 17/09/2013 13:19

No poo since 6am here either - he's eaten masses so why the hell has it not come out??? He's ok with wee (only two wee accidents since we brought him home on Friday) as his breeder got him used to weeing on grass - if he needs to go it'll be within 3 seconds of getting on the lawn, but poo is so far completely unpredictable .. It's now pissing down with rain so I share your pain!

GeorgianMumto5 · 17/09/2013 14:23

Hmm...is it National No Crap Day for Puppies, do you think?

I'm tired of watching mine now. Honestly, it's been hours. I'm going to leave the room for 5 mins. I bet that brings one on!

I don't think mine ever went out before we got him. He seems to quite like the rain, but not enough to break his poo-fast. Would it be wrong of me to turf his crate?

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SDTGisAnEvilWolefGenius · 17/09/2013 14:26

You said that you take him to his newspaper when he looks like he is about to go - could you whisk him outside then, instead? And stay out until he has 'been'?

When we were housetraining our lab puppy, we took her outside, and waited until she peed or pooed, and said 'Be Quick' when we saw her doing it - then gave a treat - and that taught her that 'be quick' is the command to do her business.

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Katnisscupcake · 17/09/2013 15:42

Second what everyone else has said. Get rid of the Newspaper.

  • Take him out AS SOON as he wakes up
  • Take him out every 20 minutes
  • Take him out as soon as he's had something to eat
  • Definitely keep up with the treats, the minute he does a wee or a poo
  • Take him out last thing at night and as soon as you get up in the morning
  • Don't raise your voice if he does it in the house (anywhere) but just change the tone of your voice, like you do with a child

HTH

kilmuir · 17/09/2013 15:47

Pictures please

LittleRedDinosaur · 17/09/2013 19:49

Just realised our dog hasn't pooed today either... also re raising voice, I just meant to get dogs attention and hopefully stop them mid flow so you can take them out- not in a telling off way (although never worked for us!)

GeorgianMumto5 · 17/09/2013 22:09

It must be a Thing, in that case. Ours finally did, over 12 hours since the last one. On the carpet, obviously.

This rain isn't helping the cause, is it? I'm happy to stand out in it, but Georgiandog isn't.

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