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Recall issues

8 replies

papalazaru · 15/07/2013 13:28

I'd like to take our dog on some walks in the local commons and forests BUT as he is half beagle half idiot once he gets the smell of something he is off and recall is useless. Even though he usually stays close to me I'm concerned that he might disappear off and bother horses etc and I won't be able to get him back even with a pocketful of treats. So as an interim measure I thought about getting a very long retractable lead so he can have some freedom to roam but I can keep control. Is this a stupid idea? Should I invest in some serious recall training??

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Ladyflip · 15/07/2013 14:00

No idea I'm afraid, but watching thread with interest. We acquired a new dog yesterday after our ancient monument was PTS two months ago. New boy is 3 but we have been told recall is the area he needs work on. All suggestions gratefully received.

MallingDog · 15/07/2013 14:10

I dunno. I'm just tooooo hhhhhhhhhhhhhooooooooooooottttttttt

moosemama · 15/07/2013 14:37

Definitely work on the recall, but yes, you need something to maintain distance control in the meantime. You can use a flexi-lead, but if you do, I would advise investing in a harness as well, as flexi-leads can cause horrible neck/back injuries in dogs if they pelt to the end and then suddenly get jarred back.

An alternative is a long line (also attached to a harness). You can buy specific dog-training long-lines, but horse lunge lines are just as good.

As for the recall training. My boy has always had a good recall - until now. When we lost our old girl back in April he suddenly decided that he would stop recalling to encourage me to play with him, as he's so bored without his friend to chase him around. I've done a lot of work with him since and his recall is great now - as long as he doesn't have a ball in his mouth. Hmm

So, I have recently bought and can recommend, Total Recall which is a really good book for both setting the groundwork for good recall with a pup or new dog and also retraining dogs who have poor recall. It also discusses the specific problems with dogs such and scent and sighthounds (mines a sighthound Wink, for whom recall training is often, er ... more challenging.

It's uses totally positive training methods and is a step by step plan, that's really easy to follow. You start all the training indoors, at home and gradually work your way up to taking it outside, then further afield, so you will still need some sort of distance control in the meantime.

papalazaru · 15/07/2013 17:13

Moosemama - that's very helpful thanks. I'll look out for the book. I usually walk him with a gentle leader but you're saying that I should get a harness if he's on a long line - yes??
MailingDog - we're all too bloody hot!

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idirdog · 15/07/2013 17:24

Always use a harness with a long line.

Recall needs to start in the home.
Recall is just a game and you need to work on it a lot but the good news is that this is really easy.

Have a reinforcement zone around you eg when the dog is close to you click and treat or if not using a clicker just treat. Youd dog will learn being close to you is good news!

Get a tuggy call the dogs name and run away pulling the tuggy behind you - most dogs will run after you to play with the tuggy.

Run around a group of trees with the tuggy and get the dog to chase you - again the dog is learning you are great fun to be around.

Get family members to stand in a circle and one at a time call the dog and give a yummy treat. The dog will soon be charging from one to another of you.

In a narrow hallway through some food away from you for the dog to run to and eat once they have eaten the treat run away with tuggy, This will speed up the recall.

By working with your dog like this away from distractions the recall will become more instinctive, you can then increase the distractions when out and about.

topbannana · 15/07/2013 21:02

I have always had a code word for recall. The code word is a cue for the bestest, tastiest treat ever, normally squeezy cheese or liver. The treat is never employed for anything else, only recall and the code word is never used without the bestest treat to hand.
It has always worked for me (but I have luckily always had greedy dogs)

topbannana · 15/07/2013 21:04

Sorry, I should have said, my code word is "what's this?"
It's so secret I couldn't even write it down :o

BMW6 · 16/07/2013 19:47

My boy has to stay on lead all the time, as swims after ducks across a wide estuary and doesn't come back until they fly off (Shipping lane so could be lethal). Will also chase cats if allowed.
TBH I'm not sure all the training in the world would cure him - he was one when we got him (rehome) so maybe this "old" dog can't learn new tricks.

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