Thoughts for Lennox

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Sad new today, im very saddened by what Belfast City council have done and i would like everyone to light a candle tonight in memory of Lennox the Bulldog

Ive spoken about my cat on here before, Im not exaggerating when I say she probably saved my life. She was my only friend, literally, when I got her, as I was bullied terribly and was not very well with it at all. I have no shame in saying when she finally passed at the grand old age of 22 it was worse than when my uncle passed.

Strange how little furry things can have such an impact on you.

'But please don't try and tell me they deserve the same level of grief as people

Please don't ever say that to a child grieving for her pet'

My children lost their one-year-old puppy on the vet's table when she had a catastrophic reaction to the anaesthetic. They had both started new schools the day before. I had to pick them up from school and tell them what had happened. They were devastated as they adored the pup and she adored them. All of us, in fact, were utterly gutted. My husband came home from work to be with me as I was a wreck.

But--it's not the same as losing a child, sorry, it's just not. We have a new dog now and while we will never ever forget her lovely, loved, predecessor and feel very, very sad that she died so prematurely, it isn't the same as the loss of a child to a parent. That's a grief that time doesn't heal.

I don't think anyone can say how someone should feel. The old dear I know may feel the same level of loss as a parent who has list a child. Noone can know and noone can say how much someone should grieve. It's very personal.

I don't believe it is at all the same as losing a child-that isn't was this thread was about!!
But a dog does mean a lot to its family members unless of course its just kept as a guard dog
I asked for a simple gesture of lighting a candle, you either do it or you don't simples!!!!
I don't want arguments over which is more important-i want a candle lighted in rememberance for Lennox a dog that has been treated badly and took away from his family but instead people come on here moaning about how its 'just a dog'-clearly some of you do not care for animals enough to light a flipping candle which would cost you a quid in the poundshop.
I explained earlier upthread that losing a child does not compare

Or to put it less wordy, its not the same to people with children.

What has annoyed me, is that i never once compared it-it is not the same but why can't we all light a candle, a dog still has feelings

How ridiculous - light a candle for a Dog? come on!

Must be a slow night on aibu

Pumpkin - I understand that you have seen others on fb etc suggesting a candle. However it is grossly inappropriate. Let me explain.

A candle is used as in religion a metaphor for the human soul. That's why it is associated with spirituality, and it is such a powerful image that it transcends religions - it even works for atheists. It is about the frailty of humanity. You know the song "I've got a little light, I'm gonna let it shine"? That's your metaphor. It doesn't work for creatures which don't have souls.

It also leaves a nasty taste in my mouth this week of all weeks - 2 mumsnetters have lost children this week. If they were to come across this thread, it could cause a great deal of hurt to them by unintentionally cheapening the gesture of many mnetters who lit candles (real or virtual) for their children.

This isn't in AIBU anymore, leave it out.

As a mum and a dog lover, I have lit a candle for the poor lad and his grieving family.

For those attempting to mock, piss off back to AIBU where you will find like minded wankers people.

This is the Doghouse, its not surprising that dog lovers may frequent this part of MN.

Im sorry for anyone, MNetters or otherwise who have lost loved ones I truly am. However I dont feel the need to go on Style and Beauty and ask "why are you fucking asking about false tan when people are having REAL problems"

Anyone can ask anyone to light a candle for anyone, or anything. Do it or not, agree with it or dont.

I believe all living things have souls. I have lit a candle for Lennox and Im sorry if that action offends people but I cant help what people get offended by.

I don't want to get into this discussing but lighting a flame is older than Christian religions and to many anything living had a life force that went back into the universe.

I just hate it when these new fangled religions claim the meaning behind acts, when really it was because the people wouldn't stop doing it, they found a new reason to do it.

Burning a flame can remove negitive energy ad put a person at peace. It could be used to send peace and healing to the family.

I do feel that this has been a horrible situation for the family and Lennox, and I believe that the council were in the wrong.

But I have far more sympathy for the thousands of dogs put to sleep because no-one cared enough to be there for them. Dogs that have been abandoned or chucked out because their owners just didn't want them any more- they weren't cute enough or trained enough, or their owners really didn't have any idea what owning a dog entailed. THAT makes me And noone is up in arms or sending death threats to these people who have basically condemned their own dog to destruction.

I do feel for Lennox and his family, but at least he was loved. I'd personally prefer to take a moment to think about the dogs that are not

In regards to losing people, i wouldn't have coped as well as i did to losing my DH, if it hadn't been for my dog.

My dog now removes strees from my life, when i walk her.

And noone is up in arms

Go on to AIBU, when someone talks about rehoming their dog, when they have put little thought in getting it, you will see plenty up in arms.

You wilalso see many posts about irresponsible breeding, because it starts with the breeders, especially for the new fashion of combining breeds that do not mix well.

Birds- I know in the doghouse we people are all very outspoken about people who talk about rehoming casually, but in reality people who care less than people who post in the doghouse will leave their dog outside an animal shelter/ abandon it without incurring death threats.

I am a vet (I've nc'd, was jooly) and I have been on the receiving end of a torrent of abuse for refusing to put 2 healthy dogs down because the owner was pregnant . I have also had to do stints in the local pound as a student, where I had the heartbreaking job of euthanasing the surplus dogs and cats. The council may have made the decision, but it will have been some vet who had to actually do the deed (and feel crap about it)

Lennox situation is wrong and sad, but these "murders" are happening every day, on a far greater scale. I wish someone would campaign for these guys. People like me deal with the fallout. And you are right- it does start with irresponsible breeders, and I would love something to be done about that as well.

My point is that there has been so much energy devoted to saving Lennox- could we somehow turn some of that momentum to changing the bigger problem?

platypus half the Lennox battle is to get BSL out of the picture, so dogs don't have to be put down for being the wrong measurements.

For those of you that choose to mock the reason for this thread-This isn't an Aibu, this is about thoughts for Lennox.
If you have nothing nice to say please do not say it , have some respect.
Tbh i thought lighting a candle would be a simple gesture by dog lovers across the globe for this tormented, unessesarily pts dog but unfortunetly my thread has unleashed the childishness among some of you, again i will say it again-Please consider lighting a candle in remembrance for Lennox (this is not a comparison to any other death, it is remembering about a dog)

sassy, im in no way religious whatsover as i had my bro stolen from me from cancer just after he turned 16-if god excisted at all he would not put a child through the extreme pain & sadness of cancer-believe me i know Lennox's death does not compare having seen what i have seen and watching my mum wish she was dead to be with him so don't tell me about comparisons.
This is about lighting a candle for a dog whos life was destroyed and cut short by BCC for NO good reason

Tbh-if you think my thread is so 'cheap' etc maybe you should boycott mnetters for talking about heels, dresses and tanning salons as they tbh are completely pointless 'me me me' threads but of course you take the piss out of my intellegence by harping on about "its only a dog"

I'll light a candle for Lennox.

I lost both my parents to cancer but I'm still capable of feeling sorry for a lovely healthy happy dog who didn't rick the right boxes and therefore lost his life.

You can't stop cancer but someone could have made the decision not to kill that dog.

Thanku Ilovemydog