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Fear aggression - anyone successfully cured it?

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ihearthuckabees · 10/07/2012 10:22

Hoping someone might be able to help. We have recently got a new dog, a four year old whippet, and he suffers from, I think, fear aggression. The trouble is, he's not totally consistent, and so I'm not entirely sure what his triggers are.

Not sure whether he will slowly settle, given a lot of patience and consistency ( he had quite a lot of disruption before coming to us, although he wasn't abused at all) or whether he will need more hard core therapy with a professional.

His aggression is not too extreme. Mostly growling, barking and possibly running up to a dog and snapping at it (not actual biting, just noise and nipping). But obviously the outcome depends on the other dog's reaction. (and their owner's reaction, obviously.)

I have been putting him on the lead if meeting a strange dog, as you don't know what will happen, but friends have been happy for him to meet their dogs and kind of work things out between themselves, and nothing bad has happened! Although he often seems to want to assert himself at the beginning, before settling into a more companionly walk. One friend's terrier, who is feisty, did scratch him a little bit, but this put him in his place and they were then fine.

I don't want to keep putting him on the lead all the time, as he is then more stressed, but I need to be responsible, so not sure what to do.

Aggression is only towards dogs, never people, so am not worried about him hurting a person.

He is also very into chasing a ball, even ignoring a rabbit if a ball is waved in his face.

He is our second whippet. Our first sadly died, but was a different personality altogether - a bit cheeky with other dogs, but always in a playful sense, never aggressive or fearful.

Thanks for reading this long post!

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herbertjane · 10/07/2012 16:06

Yes I have had a hundreds of clients that have dogs with fear aggression and you can make a huge difference to all dogs. People do panic and worry that it is hard to solve but with solid consistent training dogs can improve hugely and for some lose the fear totally.

BAT is great for fear aggressive dogs and if you can find a trainer or friends to help with this you will see a big improvement quite quickly.info here

Some dogs may always be slightly wary of new dogs but if you can train an alternative behaviour to the lunge and bark then that makes the situation so much calmer and easier for everyone.

Most behaviourists will recommend the look dog or surprise command where you teach your reactive dog to look at other dogs or look to the floor and then to get a treat. Soon the dogs realise that other dogs are good things and will look and come back to you fro a treat rather than interact with the other dog. So no need for the reactive behaviour. It is very important to start both these games away from the dogs threshold so if the dog is lunging or reacting move away from the situation until the dog is calm and then start the game. So not worry if you are miles away from the dog you will be able to move closer as the dog gets more confident.

ihearthuckabees · 10/07/2012 16:09

Thanks Herbert. I have been avoiding the new dog where possible I.e walking in the other direction, then getting him to sit and take a great, so it sounds like I am going along the right lines, which is good to know. I will check out your link. And thanks again for replying.
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herbertjane · 10/07/2012 16:14

No probsSmile Yes what you are doing is BAT. The dogs reward for being calm is to move away from the situation - fantastic! Keep at it. You will find that over time as your dog realises that you will remove him from the situation his threshold will increase and you can get nearer before you turn away. Brilliant work

RedwingS · 10/07/2012 16:40

Great advice from herbertjane. I have taught the look dog command to Dog2 and it has worked really well. He now goes past lots of dogs without even noticing them, although aggressive dogs are still sometimes a bit tricky. The great thing is that it breaks his fixated stare on other dogs. Sometimes while training him he got a high rate of treats, just to keep breaking that stare. It sounds like you are doing really well, iharthuckabees. I'm sure you'll solve it with time.

ihearthuckabees · 10/07/2012 18:10

It is hard to do the training in a real life situation isn't it?. Pam's video looks good, although it would take some planning to practise it. Will have to recruit some friends to help me I think.

Also, can it be done without the clicker?

I'll let you know how things go.

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RedwingS · 10/07/2012 18:18

I say 'yes' instead of using a clicker. I just don't have the coordination to get it right with the clicker and the lead in my hand and the treats ... I just end up getting the timing wrong which defeats the object. You can wear the clicker on a band around your wrist, if that helps. Other people have more coordination than me and seem to manage just fine ;) But a 'yes' works too.

herbertjane · 10/07/2012 18:26

You are right it is hard to do in real life setups. Some clients have visited a busy dog walking carpark. They go to a quiet area and click and treat from a distance and gradually are able to get nearer. Vets are also a good place to try.

You can do it without the clicker. However the clicker is a noise that seems to penetrate the brain of even a very reactive dog. Whereas your voice can sometimes not be acknowledged by the dog. The clicker would make it quicker for the dog to learn.

ihearthuckabees · 10/07/2012 21:20

Think I'll give the clicker a go. Thanks again for your help.

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