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Sposh · 14/04/2012 17:56

This is a 'what breed?' (if any) question.

We are a family of four, two dd's 15 & 13. Both girls want to get a dog. Dh comes from a family who had dogs all his childhood so knows all about how much is involved. We had a disastrous experience with a rescue dog a couple of years ago. Had him two years - he was enormous and completely untrainable and we very sadly had give him back to dogs trust after he attacked dd2 with no warning whatsoever after we'd spent a lot of time and money on behavioural issues. This is my only experience of living with a dog so if we're going to try again I want to do it right.

Any dog we might consider would have to be small enough not to have the strength to pull a skinny teenaged girl over on a lead as they want to be able to walk him. They couldn't do this with the last dog as he had the strength of a black bear and they were even smaller/skinnier back then, so I'm thinking the largest size would be collie. But not a collie as they need soooooo much stimulation. None of us could tolerate a yappy tiny thing (do all small dogs yap?) None of us have a problem with cross breeds, heinz 57s - we're not looking for a designer dog by any stretch of the imagination. The rescue we had was, by guesswork, great dane/lab/GS. He was youngish when we got him and grew more than we expected, his head was up to my hip, I'm 5'6.

The girls have issues. One is a tearaway teen who is beginning to settle down, she doesn't go to school so is home on weekdays but sleeps until lunchtime given half a chance. She gets lots of chances as I work until lunchtime, four hours a day, 5 days a week currently. This could, theoretically become more at any time in the next few years.

The younger girl is also not currently in school daily because of extreme anxiety issues. She is doing a programme at the moment when she goes into school when able, on a reduced timetable. The maximum at the moment is two mornings and one 5hr day but there are many entire weeks when she doesn't make it in at all. She is the one pushing the issue of a dog. I think it would do her a lot of good to have the responsibility of walks, letting it out etc but hopefully will be back in school full time if we work hard on the anxiety (panic attacks) but this could take anything up to a year, if at all.

Summing up the problems we had with the rescue dog they were that he had eating issues - he'd been stray so had eaten crap for the duration until we got him so he had both stomach problems involving huge cost in expensive foods and extreme possessiveness over food. He was huge and strong so we had to use harnesses to walk him and even then I could end a walk hardly able to drive as my wrists were so battered and he could steal food/chewable lovely things I loved from just about any surface we owned despite my vigilance in putting things out of the way.

An ideal breed for us would be a whippet. My in laws have whippets and they're great but they've had health issue after health issue and have had £thousands spent on vet bills - mostly insurance but my in laws would spend their last penny on the dogs and their insurance bills have sky rocketed.

Or maybe we're not a suitable family for a dog? I want to be realistic and I don't want to be unfair to any dog that might come our way.

Any wise words to be had? Sorry this is so long Grin

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Sposh · 15/04/2012 15:33

Oh bleedin' nora. I've had a chat with dd2 about it (again!) and she says she doesn't want a whippet Hmm

What do the hive know about spaniels?

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AnEcumenicalMatter · 15/04/2012 15:54

What type of spaniel?

King Charles Cavalier? Great family pet. Very friendly and biddable. Health problems are a concern so finding a good breeder is imperative.

Springer (working or show type?) - working type are machine like in their need to be busy. Too much for most 'average' pet homes. Show type are bigger, a bit less frenetic but still require quite a lot of exercise and mental stimulation.

Cocker (working or show type?) - working type, bit like the Springer, is not for the faint hearted. Very busy and active and huge amount of exercise needed. Wouldn't recommend at all for your circumstances. The show type are what most people imagine when they think of a Cocker. Generally make good pets and are friendly and socialble with other dogs.

Then you have the less common Field Spaniel, Sussex Spaniel and Clumber Spaniel as well as the smaller King Charles Spaniel and Tibetan Spaniel.

In your position, I'd consider the CKCS or show type Cocker.

However, when considering what dog is right for your household, do bear in mind that your children are of an age where they could leave home in a couple of years, leaving you to look after the dog for the next 10+ years so it should be a dog that YOU want.

minsmum · 15/04/2012 16:40

To be honest I wouldn't worry too much about breeds what you need is a nice natured ,small to medium sized family dog , with no issues. I would go on rescue pages website and have a look for rescues, local ones would be good but also ones like greyhound gap. If you look at rescues that use foster homes you will get a good idea of what the dog will be like in a home. Ask for their help and you might get a few possibilities and then take your daughters to visit to help choose.

I did this and ended up with a perfect dog for our family, except for stealing food. Feel free to ignore this its just what worked for my family

Sposh · 15/04/2012 17:08

I don't mind that the girls will be leaving home (hopefully!) leaving me and dh with a dog. The last dog was my idea Blush and I did 99% of the walking mostly because he was too big/strong for the girls to do any of it.

This time we're hoping that both the girls will be able to take it out and about. Dd1 needs to build confidence to be out in our area, something she hasn't done for about two years after a nasty bout of violent bullying leaving her too scared to be out alone unless she's well out of the area. Dd2 also needs to build confidence but she also needs to relax and exercise - and she needs company as she's currently home alone in the mornings. I know this is temporary, with any luck, but even if she does get back to school full time then the house won't be empty (dd1 in bed) and I get home at lunchtime.

If for any reason they tire of walking it (unlikely in the case of dd2) then I would be happy to take on the job, it was the bit I liked most about owning a dog before but I don't want to spend hours and hours a day doing it. Probably a shortish (30 mins?) walk early morning and an hour or so across country in the afternoons, so that probably rules out a spaniel then?

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IAmBooyhoo · 15/04/2012 17:16

before i would agree to looking at dogs i would tell your girls that they need to prove they can care for it. will you be working on a rota for walking feeding etc? so if they can prove for 2 weeks without missing a day that they can get up at 7am and let the dog out for the toilet, walk it then feed it and then again in the afternoon and evening (and i mean them actually going for at least a 45 minute walk each time) then i would agree to look at dogs. if they cant both do this then i wouldn't move any closer towards getting one.

batsintheroof · 15/04/2012 17:53

RE spaniels. I don't recommend getting a King Charles Cavalier. There are just too many genetic problems with this breed. :( The whole lot are just far too inbred. They need to be out-crossed.

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