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A Beagle...

61 replies

DeliaOliver · 11/04/2012 12:48

Has anyone got one? Can you be honest with me?

We are hoping to get one in the summer. I have 3 DC, 6yo,3yo and 1yo. I'm a SAHM.

Am I barking? (pun intended!)

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tropicalfish · 16/04/2012 23:10

my neighbours beagle x which I think is a puggle from pictures on the internet is a nightmare dog. As soon as it hears me walk on the lawn it comes out, I can hear it run after me, snorting and growling. If I stop to do any gardening , it growls, snarls and throws itself barking aggessively at the fence. Apparently this is a known trait of beagles. Imagine if this happens to you several times a day, once every 5 to 10 minutes. Its all very well you saying you want a certain dog but do you not think about the impact it has on your neighbours. It has a very very loud bark.

DeliaOliver · 17/04/2012 10:08

Bochead- all rescues local to me will not rehome a dog to any family with children under 8.

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DeliaOliver · 17/04/2012 10:13

Tropical- I've certainly not heard that aggression is a typical trait of a beagle. I know they will become destructive if left alone for long periods, but it won't be. I am at home most of the time, and when I'm not it's an hour max when I go to a baby group, and when I take the older two to classes it can hope in the car with me, or there will be someone else here (MIL or DH). We will also be using a crate. We live in country and I already have 3 boys that need exercising come rain or shine, so the walks in all weather doesn't bother me.

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AllergicToNutters · 17/04/2012 10:50

sounds like you ahve made up your mind OP. What about a lab, collie, springer spaniel.. They all like exercise and human company.....Smile

hairylemon · 17/04/2012 11:02

I love Beagles but wouldnt have one in a million trillion years. Id seriously take your time with this OP, too many dogs end up being rehomed because people dont realise the breed they have taken on isnt what they thought. Also think about what you would do if your situation changes wrt being at home a lot.

hairylemon · 17/04/2012 11:07

A really quick look on google says they are difficult to train, difficult to recall once they have picked up a scent, easily bored or distracted. If you live in the country Im assuming lots of farms about? id be worried abut it buggering off worrying livestock once its picked up a scent and getting shot by a farmer Sad

SaggyOldClothCatPuss · 17/04/2012 11:26

My next dog will be a dachshund. Beagles are stunning dogs, but they take serious dedication!

wildfig · 17/04/2012 13:17

tropical beagles aren't usually aggressive - it's one of the reasons they're used in research, that and their stoicism. The dog's probably just desperate for attention and more exercise.

I really like beagles - to look at and play with - but they'd send me insane to own. My dog sitter regularly looks after two; she's had hounds for years but she still has to watch the beagles constantly, because they drive her own dogs up the wall. Literally, as they easily hop fences. They're bred to be a very specific kind of working dog - busy, independent, energetic, vocal - but without the need for human interaction that makes other working breeds more adaptable to family life. American beagles have been bred to be a bit calmer than the British ones, I think, since they're much more common house dog over there, but they still need loads of exercise. Snoopy is not your average beagle; the ones I know would be more likely to chew the kennel to pieces than to recline on top of it, writing a novel...

delia if you're set on getting one, I'd really recommend talking to the breed club first and going to meet some - they're sweet, but a bit of a lifestyle choice.

glasscompletelybroken · 17/04/2012 15:50

I think there are definate breed traits but individual dogs can be quite different. Ours does not have pefect recall which can be really frustrating, she is phenomenally greedy and likes a lot of attention.

However - she is pretty lazy and although we take her out twice a day for a good walk I have to say if it is raining she is really not keen!
She is not noisy, she is most definately not aggressive and far from worrying livestock she is actually terrified of sheep!
I work from home and she is excellent company. We have left her for up to 4 hours in her crate and - according to the neighbours - she has not barked. We now also leave her for up to 2 hours in the kitchen and hallway and she has been fine.

She will be a year old on Thursday and we can't quite believe how good she is in lots of ways.

DeliaOliver · 18/04/2012 18:59

How do they compare to a spaniel?

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batsintheroof · 18/04/2012 20:41

If you really want a high-energy dog but one that would be easier to train and considered a good 'family' dog the springer spaniel is that sort of breed imo.

AllergicToNutters · 18/04/2012 20:52

I'd echo what batsintheroof says about Springers. Or possibly Cockers. Or a retriever breed. Good luck!

WestWinger · 18/04/2012 20:52

I have a Beagle. He is 4 and is just wonderful. He did require proper training, but he is a joy to walk off-lead - never runs off, recall is brilliant - hardly ever walk him on the lead. He stays on his own quite happily at home - no separation anxiety, barking etc. He is so friendly, kids love him, such a gentle nature - not an aggressive bone in his body. He doesn't bark, except if he is the front garden and someone walks past, never howls - honestly IME Beagles are brilliant. But you need to get decent training in from the outset.

DeliaOliver · 18/04/2012 20:56

WestWinger- how much of your time did you need to dedicate during puppy stage, and now?

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DeliaOliver · 18/04/2012 20:57

Springers bit too big, we want a small/medium breed, but one sturdy enough to withstand three young boys. The beagle seemed to tick all boxes

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WestWinger · 18/04/2012 21:15

Delia - love the name, do you like cooking? Training now - zero. And he just looks after himself. Either he sleeps in his bed (does this a LOT), plays with me and my DD for a bit or is out walking.

I did some one on one lessons when he was a pup - we didn't get on with the village hall type set up. The main thing we found was start young and be 100% consistent. I didn't have my DD then so was easy to achieve consistency - may be harder with kids, but am guessing they would just be playing with the dog, rather than training.

With the one on one lessons we didn't need many and spaced them out to give us time to practice what we had learnt, so wasn't that expensive overall. Not sure where you are in the country, but can recommend Amy Hatcher - Sussex / Surrey / London areas. She is a behaviourist as well as a trainer and has lots of experience with Beagles.

On our first recall lesson, our dog ran off with two other black labs and never paid me any attention. She said, yes recall does seem to be an issue!!! Two lessons later and he was almost 100% reliable - took a couple more to get the full 100% reliability but the difference she made was huge. Now he is safe with sheep, chickens, cats - just plods along minding his own business.

SaggyOldClothCatPuss · 18/04/2012 21:20

We had a cocker and two tiny children. She was an absolute angel.

DeliaOliver · 18/04/2012 21:37

He sounds fab Smile in your opinion do you think training/ having a beagle pup with three young children is do-able? What solved the recall problems?

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WestWinger · 18/04/2012 22:01

It is doable. I'd recommend you find a Beagle from show stock, rather than working stock. They have a better tendency not to follow scents and are more likely to settle into normal family life. A good working Beagle is very different from a pet Beagle. It will be a challenge though.

I had my heart set on a Beagle - right size of dog (can pick it up if need be), short coat, looks nice but the only downside was the training - as everyone says they are difficult to train. And they are really quite stubborn - you need to find what will motivate it to do what you want. With my dog it was liver paste - ugh.

I am no dog trainer, so can't really say what did the trick (and it was a few years ago) but one of the main things I was doing wrong was always telling my dog "this way" or some such communication on the walk. Apparently cos he could hear me, he always knew where I was, so there was no need for him to pay attention to staying close to me. When I stopped talking to him, carried on walking without him and hid behind trees occasionally he would suddenly realise he had 'lost' me and then had to try to find me. This works well when they are younger. He then learnt that he had to check where I am in order to be able to always find me. I am not explaining this well!! But now I almost never call him on a walk, he is always within range and the minute I turn a corner he comes bounding over to catch up.

A lot of succesful training is about establishing yourself as the pack leader - if you do this well, then the dog (depending on personality of course) will be much more likely to do as you ask it. My dog is quite submissive in nature and therefore does not aspire to be a pack leader, so is much easier to train than a more dominant dog.

Would recommend a good dog whistle too. Every time you get his/her dinner ready, blow the whistle and then the dog will start to build a good association with coming to the whistle.

WestWinger · 18/04/2012 22:06

Just realised you mentioned the breeder has show stock. Sorry. Blush

DeliaOliver · 18/04/2012 22:06

We are on the waiting list for a pup from show stock. Thank you so much for your advise WestWinger, I was starting to think I'd made a massive mistake! Can I ask if you use a crate?

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DeliaOliver · 18/04/2012 22:09

Also intending to feed raw meaty bones as I've heard this helps with temperament.

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DeliaOliver · 18/04/2012 22:10

Sorry-so many questions!Grin

You said he's fine left at home, how long for? Did you have to get him used to being alone?

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WestWinger · 18/04/2012 22:14

We did for about the first year and a bit. Think it really helped him feel secure in his little 'house' and he was never able to damage our house while we were out and he was at the chewing stage, so helped teach him how to behave in the house on his own. Now he has the run of half of the downstairs of the house when we go out and he rarely moves from his bed - lazy sausage that he is!

watfordmummy · 18/04/2012 22:16

we had a beagle as I was growing up, and he really was the most intelligent dog, with the best personality. I disagree with others who say they are stupid, they in my opinion are intelligent as thay know their own mind and when you throw a stick will look at you as if to say "you threw it, you geti it!!"

Ours was very loyal, but was hard to train, and I remember him destroying my mums' kitchen floor. lo

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