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Getting a dog

29 replies

serotoninbutterfly · 08/04/2012 23:50

I really want a dog. I want to get a rescue dog, that needs somewhere loving to be.
What do I need to think about? I have an almost 2 year old DS who is pretty good with my friends dogs, he tends to mostly ignore them. I also have a decent sized garden and my landlord says its ok.
I have never owned a dog before although I spend a lot of time with ones belonging to my friends.
Please bestow your knowledge unto me - I am a willing receptacle Grin

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D0oinMeCleanin · 08/04/2012 23:54

How will your 2 year old cope with daily walks in all weathers even when he is ill? How will you cope with it?

And the hair, mud and chewed toys?

Can you afford the expense, taking into account food bills, insurance, monthly fleaing and worming and annual jabs?

What about holidays/days out?

Are you planning on going back to work and if you are what about the dog?

I know that's a lot to consider but it's all very important.

serotoninbutterfly · 09/04/2012 00:04

My DS and I already go out in all weathers for walks, have a decent buggy etc etc. I quite like the rain, and have an outdoors job so I'm used to it too.

I have 2 cats that are used to living with a dog, and they shed like noones business so I am continually hoovering. I only have carpet in the living room downstairs so it should be relatively easy to keep clean

I am already back at work, but the most that there will be nobody in the house is 4 hours and that's only 2-3 times a week. My DP is well on board for a dog too so that helps - he is not a cat person.

Financially we are okish, it will be a bit of a stretch but not enough to put me off iyswim. To be honest I am probably underestimating the cost because I am basing it on the cost of my cats.

We very rarely have days out and don't do holidays, but am very close with a neighbour who will take the dog out if we do get the chance to go away (although we are homebodies so that isn't necessarily going to happen)

I'm mostly worried about the practicalities, like the chewing and toileting - also training and just day to day living etc. I have never lived with a dog full time so I don't know what it will be like. I am a little concerned that i have this rosy view of doggy cuddles and long sunny walks but I'm pretty sure the reality won't be like that Blush

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D0oinMeCleanin · 09/04/2012 00:08

In that case may I be the first to suggest an ex racing Greyhound? Very easy, going relaxed dogs. Excellent with children. Don't need much walking but will walk for miles if you want them to and hate weather, they're fairly clean dogs too and not really known for chewing. Stealing food and farting is a different matter Grin

You might have a wait for a cat friendly one but it's entirely possible. Other than that Many Tears, Dogs Trust and most smaller rescues are very good and will consider you with small children. A good rescue will see you with the right dog.

D0oinMeCleanin · 09/04/2012 00:10

Cost depends on the size of the dog and the amount of food and quality of food they eat.

Meds, vac and insurance are not that different to cats.

serotoninbutterfly · 09/04/2012 00:11

I love greyhounds and they sound perfect but I have always thought they aren't great with smaller animals like cats and rabbits? I do want to get a rabbit at some point too. I spend quite a bit of time looking at rescue sites oohing and aahing over the poor dogs that need homes - if I was rich and didn't work I would take as many as I could in! I am a bit of a bleeding heart web it comes to animals Grin

Many Tears seem like a good rescue, are they local to me (in North Oxfordshire)?

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TIDDLYMUM · 09/04/2012 00:13

Second the racing greyhound! My friends parents are in their 80's and have one, a complete delight- so chilled, brilliant with all the kids.... Sense aarty last week he just kipped under the table!!

Scuttlebutter · 09/04/2012 00:13

Before you do anything else, get it in writing from your landlord that they are willing for you to have a dog. Any good rescue will want to see this written confirmation as part of the homecheck process and if they don't you should walk away.

You should also think about your garden - it should have secure fencing and many rescues will specify a minimum height (obviously dependent on the age and size of the dog you end up with).

Give some serious thought to the finances of owning a dog. As well as the adoption fee, there will be the costs of buying :- collar, lead, possibly a coat, grooming, professional grooming/clipping (for some breeds), bowls, harness or crate for when out in the car, dog bed for home. You will need to budget for food, regular worming and defleaing treatment, full insurance (this is vital). Even if you have full insurance, some policies will expect you to cover the bill before getting it back, and you won't normally be covered for minor conditions (there's an excess usually) or regular things like vaccinations, worming, dental work etc. Basically, you should be able to access emergency funds e.g. via a credit card for emergency treatment.

For holidays, you will need to cover either the cost of boarding kennels, or a home boarder. If you go out to work, this need not be a barrier to adoption, but you will be expected to arrange cover such as a professional dog walker. Typically, you would be looking at around £10 for each walk for a dog walker with public liability insurance and CRB checked status.

The rescue will need to see that EVERY adult in the house is fully signed up - including your DP or DH. If you are a LP, then they would just expect you to show what you would do to cover if you were ill/unable to walk the dog.

Having a young child is not a barrier to adoption for all rescues, but they will expect you to show that you are willing to keep dog and child closely supervised at all times when together, and that DS is taught very clearly that dog is not a plaything, and is not to be ridden, squeezed, poked, prodded or hassled. Dog should have a secure sleeping area which is respected by everyone in the house and this space is sacrosanct. The rescue may ask if you are planning any more children. They are not doing this to be nosey, but because the birth of a second child, particularly when first child is a toddler, is one of the most common reasons for rehoming a dog.

You should be realistic with the rescue about how much time each day you will spend walking the dog. How will you combine walking the dog with a toddler who may not be so keen, especially when the weather is cold, wet and it is dark outside? At this time of the year, it is lovely but in January/February when it is inches deep in mud, cold, drizzly and you have a streaming cold, not so much.

Think about lifestyle. Are you a manic housekeeper who would be worried about dog hair and mud? Are you already someone who spends lots of time outdoors ? Do you have good, convenient dog walking areas near you, such as parks, beaches, country parks, countryside?

You should also find a vet practice near you, and it is also a good idea to take dog to training classes, such as KC Canine Good Citizen. Great fun and a fab way of bonding and getting the basics right. Usually cost about £40 for a series of around 8 classes.

If you can show that you have given careful thought to these sorts of issues, then you'll be fine. Dogs Trust is an excellent first stop as an all breed rescue or there may welll be other smaller rescues near you. If you neeed any help with choosing a rescue let us know and we can point you at a suitable one.

Good luck! [bugrin]

GrimmaTheNome · 09/04/2012 00:13

Sounds like you will get on fine.Smile If you get an adult rescue, chances are chewing won't be an issue, that's more of a puppy thing. Toileting - again, may well be fine once s/he knows where the door is to ask to go out. Training - probably a good idea to find a class even if the dog is already trained for your own benefit.

TIDDLYMUM · 09/04/2012 00:14

What happened I meant at a party not sens arty!!!

D0oinMeCleanin · 09/04/2012 00:15

Many Tears rehome around the country. Most Greyhounds are not great with small furries but you do get exceptions to the rules.

I have a cat and foster with a Greyhound charity, they have no cat friendlies in atm but I'll be sure to let you know if they get any. They are at the point now where they have so many dogs and no where near enough homes they will drive far and wide to find the right home.

serotoninbutterfly · 09/04/2012 00:21

Thank you all for the input, I'm glad I asked now as I was practically given a puppy yesterday but declined as I just don't have a clue what I am doing and I want to do the best I can for all my family and that includes those that may be furry.

It's good to know that I am doing well already on the checklist for ownership already Grin it's important to me to provide the best home I can. And our local vets allow you to pay by instalments for emergency care so that helps - that is one thing that makes me a bit nervous, I hate the idea of a furry one being in pain.

Thank you all again Smile

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Scuttlebutter · 09/04/2012 00:25

I can't endorse Many Tears as a rescue, though they do home dogs nationwide. They are a business rather than a charity (though that in itself is not a problem, but you should be aware) and they are the only rehoming organisation that charges adopters £20 for post adoption behavioural help and assistance (this is made clear on their website). Most reputable rescues gladly provide this service free of charge since they see it as essential for successful rehomings. Finally, MT spay and neuter dogs at a very young age, and also move dogs immediately (the same day) after neutering ops on long journeys cross country to go to foster homes. Finally, they are not a no-kill rescue.

serotoninbutterfly · 09/04/2012 00:27

That's good to know, I think I might look into local no kill rescues. I'm pretty confident that there must be some around here, there are a lot of dogs around!

I genuinely thought Many Tears were one of the good ones though Sad

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D0oinMeCleanin · 09/04/2012 00:28

They charge for behavioural help? Shock. I was not aware of this. OP - Dogs Trust provide this free of charge. I'd go there instead.

Has this changed? I'd always been under the impression they were a good rescue.

Scuttlebutter · 09/04/2012 00:28

If you are willing to say what part of the country you are in, then we can point you at some good rescues. [bugrin]

serotoninbutterfly · 09/04/2012 00:29

I'm in North Oxfordshire Grin

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Babylon1 · 09/04/2012 00:38

I'd also recommend a retired greyhound, if you google RGTs in your area, you'll find the local rehoming for Retired Greyhound Trust dogs.
If you do go for a greyhound, please also considering registering with Pet Blood Bank Uk - greyhounds are great donors and usually negative blood type too which is fab!!! XGrin

Scuttlebutter · 09/04/2012 00:41

Blue Cross have a rehoming centre in Lewknor, Oxon - they are a highly reputable national charity.

Scuttlebutter · 09/04/2012 00:47

Celia Cross Greyhound Charity are in Surrey and are also highly thought of - several MNetters have gorgeous dogs from there. here

Oxford branch of the RGT here

Also Evesham Greyhound and Lurcher - an excellent charity.

tabulahrasa · 09/04/2012 01:14

Dogs are a bit more expensive than cat to own, but not masses...you spend about the same on collars, leads beds and bowls as you do on cat bowls, litter tray and beds - they do tend to cost more to feed because they eat more (they're usually bigger, lol) and I find you get more unexpected vets bills, accidents or eating things they shouldn't on walks, cats aren't as bad for that.

You can't leave them while you go away with someone popping in like you can cats though, you might want to rethink that bit - they do quite happily stay at other people's houses though unlike cats, that's what I tend to do, so if that's a possibility it's worth thinking about.

Getting a dog can be a bit like getting an extra toddler, but like children they get easier the better you know them, the older they get and the better trained they are - but they're much easier to train, lol

noinspiration · 09/04/2012 07:49

Only thing to add, it can be very hard to find dog friendly landlords, so getting a dog might make any future move difficult, and more expensive (most landlords charge an extra deposit to cover pet damage).

serotoninbutterfly · 09/04/2012 08:07

I had thought about that, we are on a long term let here, and hopefully out next move will be into our own owned place iyswim.

My partner isn't fond of greyhounds he thinks they look too sad. He likes a chunkier dog, would love a retriever or a lab but I think they can be a bit.... Nuts? I like boxers but don't think we will go go one of those either as they can be hyper too.

What do we think of a rescue staffy? I know there are lots that are in rescues ATM due to the whole 'status dog' thing, or perhaps a rottie? I have heard that they are both good family dogs, very loyal and reasonably easy to train. Am I right?

I have already got it in writing from the landlords about being able to have a dog, and have quotes for the insurance etc. we have looked at budgets for food too, and have a decent independent pet shop nearby that is competitively priced and very pet friendly so I think we would have some good support too.

I am also looking into training, there is a dog trainer I have been recommended that is supposed to be very good, works on recall through high value treating and a clicker.

The neighbour is happy to have my dog in her house so that's good, she has 2 of her own and I plan to do many walks with her as her dogs are impeccably trained with near perfect recall and should be a good example. Obviously this is if I get a dog that likes others!

I genuinely would love a cute little puppy but think that I am too busy and inexperienced to train a pup, which is part of the reason why I am looking into rescues.

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eggyblackett · 09/04/2012 08:15

I would also recommend a retired greyhound. Greyhound Passport to Retirement are at the Abingdon Pets at Home today, why not go and meet some in the flesh? They are so lovely your DP may change his mind :o

GPTR

AllergicToNutters · 09/04/2012 08:52

staffies are meant to be great with children. Not sure about cats but I am sure someone will put you right on that score. There are always loads of staffies in rescue. That would be sucha brilliant thing for you to do. They are gorgeous dogs and a great size too Smile

serotoninbutterfly · 09/04/2012 09:18

That's what I thought too, I know of staffies that live happily with cats so I think it's possible! Am allowing myself to get a little but excited now Grin

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