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Bumble dog loves Wagg!!!!!!!!

15 replies

LottieJenkins · 22/02/2012 07:58

It is amazing! He has been on another dried food but never cleaned his bowl out like he does with this! Very reasonable too. I can get it by the sack in our local supermarket! Does anyone elses dog like it too???

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SP0104 · 22/02/2012 10:06

Nooooooooo !!
I'd rather pay £41.99 for 12Kg of Royal Canin Vet Breed and only have to clean up two solid poos each day than pay £9.98 for 17kg of Wagg and clean up copious amounts of runny poo !!

LottieJenkins · 22/02/2012 10:48

His poo has been fine so far!!!!!!!!!! (fingers crossed it stays like that!)

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SP0104 · 22/02/2012 12:26

I might be a little biased as my rescue boxers (all skin and bones and ribby) came with half a bag of wagg. The vet told me not to feed them with it and recommended the Royal Canin (I buy it of the internet).

belindarose · 22/02/2012 12:43

I'm finding this very odd as our pup, now 9 months, has had real problems with runny poo and finding a food to suit. DH bought home some Wagg last week as couldn't get to the place we were getting the other food from. Poos have been consistently solid all week and he's put on weight (has been very skinny). We're feeding him some raw too, but may be sticking with the Wagg!

toboldlygo · 22/02/2012 13:39

Both Royal Canin and Wagg have godawful ingredients, the only difference is the price.

Wagg Adult Beef and Veg: Wheat, Meat Meal (min 10% beef in red kibble), Wheatfeed, Maize, Poultry Fat, Digest, Linseed, Beet Pulp, Rice, Peas (min 4% in pea kibble), Lucerne, Minerals.

Royal Canin Adult Medium Breed: Dehydrated poultry meat, maize flour, maize, wheat flour, animal fats, wheat, hydrolysed animal proteins, dehydrated pork protein, beet pulp, fish oil, soya oil, yeasts, minerals, hydrolysed yeast.

You wouldn't dish up a bowl of something like 80% wheat and a sprinkling of dried meat meal for your dog, why feed the equivalent in a kibble (and pay £40 a bag for the privilege?)

That said, if the dog does well on it, the dog does well on it. Something like Skinners duck and rice is similar without all the wheat and maize and is about £20/15kg. I know raw isn't for everyone but it works out roughly equivalent in price for me as well.

LottieJenkins · 22/02/2012 16:37

Skinners factory is in the next village to me.Bumble was on their 123 but doesnt like it! Hmm My friend works there so i get mates rates! He liked the sample of chicken and rice but that is a lot more expensive than duck and rice!!

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minimuu · 22/02/2012 19:21

Unfortunately dogs are not very discerning on what is good for themGrin bit like DC's. DC's would love to live on Greggs food and turn their nose up at healthly grown veg.

Wagg is the equivalent of Greggs for dogs! of course he loves it - they coat it in yummy, very bad for dogs additives like most kibble to make the dogs eat it.

It will not be doing him any good though Sad

minimuu · 22/02/2012 19:22

PS Beet pulp is rubbish for dogs no nutritional value at all but does make poos firm - that is why you find it in nearly all kibble. Does way more harm than good

SP0104 · 22/02/2012 19:30

minimuu - 'Wagg is the equivalent of Greggs for dogs' v v v funny

toboldlygo - this is why I pay £40+ for the privilege of Royal Canin:
Royal Canin Vet Breed Boxer

For maintenance of Boxers over 15 months of age.

Ensures the maintenance of muscle mass and helps maintain healthy joints.

Boxer 26 contributes to optimal heart function and helps maintain good myocardial contraction.

The exclusive complex of lycopene, polyphenols, green tea and vitamins helps maintain vitality.

Our ergonomically adapted kibbles facilitate prehension and encourage the Boxer to chew.

Highly digestible ingredients (dehydrated poultry meat, wheat gluten, dehydrated pork protein) ensure a maximal intake of nutrients. Intake of beet pulp and Fructo-Oligo-Saccharides (FOS) helps to restore the colonic ecosystem and increase digestive security.

Increased levels of L-carnitine and taurine maintain contractility of the heart muscle and promote its energy supply.

Anti-Age System: Intake of vitamin C and E, taurine and lutein helps to maintain health and vitality, preserve the dog`s cognitive faculties and stimulate his immune defences.

  1. Hydrates cartilage and inhibits enzymatic action on chondrocytes.
  2. Stimulates the synthesis of glycosaminoglycans and hyaluronic acid.

Due to his maxillofacial morphology (brachycephalic and prognathic), the Boxer dogs incisors cannot act as pliers, so he has difficulty in picking up food. The size and shape of Boxer kibble aid prehension. The kibble texture makes crunching easier and a mechanical tooth cleaning effect combined with the chemical action of sodium polyphosphate reduces dental plaque and tartar formation.

Ingredients:
Rice, vegetable protein isolate, animal fats, dehydrated poultry meat, maize, dehydrated pork protein, hydrolysed animal proteins, minerals, vegetable oils (soya and copra), vegetable fibres, beet pulp, fish oil, tomato (source of lycopene), sodium polyphosphate, yeast extract (source of manno-oligo-saccharides), taurine, hydrolysed crustaceans (source of glucosamine), L-carnitine, DL-methionine, L-tyrosine, marigold extract (source of lutein), green tea and grape extracts (source of polyphenols), hydrolysed cartilage (source of chondroitin)

So shrug on, I'm happy to pay £40+ and have dogs in beautiful condition.

minimuu · 22/02/2012 19:54

umm £40 for product that again contains beet pulp - which no dog can or ever will digest.

Just give dogs proper food!

GreenandBlacksAddict · 22/02/2012 20:05

Our Golden Retreiver polishes off the first bowl of every dry or wet dog food we buy him. Then he refuses to eat it ever again, I've covered it in gravy, mixed it with everything. He sits there and looks at me until I give in and give him the leftovers of our dinner. He obviously prefers Roast Dinner, liver, cottage pie or lasagne to any Purina,Wagg,Winalot, Pedigree, Royal Canin etc . My auntie owned a kennels and she used to go to the butchers and boil up huge pans of butchers scraps which every dog demolished - I think this is probably cheaper and has more of a chance with our hound !

toboldlygo · 22/02/2012 20:15

I'm gonna again 'cos that food doesn't contain any actual meat. If your dog is looking well on a diet mainly comprised of rice, vegetable protein isolate and animal fat, brilliant, carry on, but you could do that a lot cheaper than £40 a bag.

The pseudo-scientific blurb is so infuriating. The same claims can be made for almost any foodstuff - pretty much anything you feed a dog will maintain their muscle mass and 'increase vitality'. The chondroitin is listed last so not likely to be in anything like the quantity needed to have any real effect - how does the level compare to an actual supplement? It's sourced from cartilage which means if the food had any actual meat content it would already be in there. How on earth a food specifically helps myocardial contraction is beyond me. Wheat gluten is not highly digestible. A dog fed on a natural diet does not need his teeth cleaning, bones fulfill this function. Etc.

If you read it and consider the ingredients objectively, it's a very expensive bag of very poor and frankly weird ingredients that you would never feed to a dog in isolation, so why would you all mashed up together in a kibble?

You say the dog is doing well on it - fine, if it works for you and your dog, that is honestly great, carry on. I would just urge others to look beyond the clever packaging and marketing and consider what it is you are really feeding your dog. I was sucked in for years, thought I was doing the right thing by feeding the most expensive stuff on the shelf until I had a dog with genuine allergies and started to look at what was actually in these bags.

Dog Food Analysis is a good place to start.

LottieJenkins · 22/02/2012 20:25

I seem to have started a lively debate!!!

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belindarose · 22/02/2012 20:27

I'm feeling very guilty now!

Inthepotty · 22/02/2012 20:33

Totally agree with dogs will eat food that's basically full of crap- because they make it taste nice! Called in on a friend today with my pup, he feeds his collie bakers Shock, and my pup (normally not fussed or greedy about kibble- raw fed) was straining at his lead to eat it! It was like setting a child who's never heard of smarties loose in a sweet shop.

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