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Advice on getting a dog

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MsGee · 20/01/2012 17:34

Hi, DH and I are thinking of getting a dog and I'm a bit clueless to be honest and would appreciate (honest) advice as to whether we should.

Background: we have DD (nearly 4) who is a little scared of animals so ideally I want a dog that can grow with her so she can build confidence. She is very gentle with animals, just a bit hesitant. DH has had dogs as a child. I've never had a dog and am a bit scared of bigger dogs so want something small. I'm allergic to cats and we want an animal to be part of the family (i.e. not a hamster). There is an emotional subtext ... We lost a baby during pg last year, won't be trying again, DD desperate for pet / sibling and I think we all want a new member of the family to love.

Pros: I work from home so would be home with dog all the time. We have decent sized house and ok size garden (for a small dog). DD is gentle with animals. Doggie will be well loved and DH has experience with dogs.

Cons: we are house proud (particularly DH). I'm not sure he'd cope with muddy paws every day. Walks of more than 1 hour per day would be difficult. As the person home I understand I'd have to be in charge in terms of doggie training. I'm not exactly a natural at that. We holiday (although am sure PIL would help for a week per year).

So ... I really would love a dog but not sure if I'm unrealistic. Given above - could we offer the right home a dog? Secondly what sort of dog - small, ok for allergy sufferers, not needing lots of exercise, good with kids, easy to train? And then where to get one? Have read posts below but if a rescue centre how do you know which are reputable? Same for breeders?

Apologies if this is hopelessly naive but I know it's a bit commitment and don't want to offer a doggy a home if it wouldn't work.

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kittycat68 · 20/01/2012 20:37

got our first dog last year so can see where u are comming from!!

now have another little puppy also.

they do chew up your stuff( recently my blackberry and leather dinning chair!!)

also got through a few rugs( cos of the toilet training)

it is hard work for the first year!! I AM SINGLE PARENT MYSELFwith three kids with special needs. had no previous experience with dogs either.

I have two small dogs now of mixed breed as the vets said they have often better temperments and less health issues. kids love them to bits!!
would recomend also air filter as they can smell a bit sometimes also am allergic to dogs!!!

there are several sites on internet which you can type in your lifestyle and the site will suggest types of dogs most suitable for you.

you can gat anti allergy dogs that dont need to much exercise like a bision frise and they are small dogs too

you will have to be less house proud when you have a dog im affraid

i went for a puupy as i thought the children and i would bond better than with a resue dog , also was concerned that resue dogs mostly dont come with any history. hope this helps!

toboldlygo · 20/01/2012 21:08

Will pop back to formulate a better response when I have time but just wanted to point out that many rescue dogs have a fully known history, that it will be harder for a nervous child to bond with a jumpy nippy puppy than a calm adult dog and it is a complete misconception that mixed breed dogs are any healthier or have better temperaments than pedigree dogs.

If you can reconcile the house proud thing (there will be pee and poo, muddy footprints and dog smell) I'd go for a rescue greyhound or, if size really is an issue, a whippet. They sleep something like 23 hours a day and refuse to go out in the rain. Grin

wildfig · 20/01/2012 21:46

I don't have any experience of small breeds, but to be honest, if you're really house-proud you might struggle with the inevitable dogginess that most dogs bring with them. There are some breeds that don't shed, and you could restrict the dog to one or two easily cleaned rooms, but they all smell a bit and get muddy - it's what they do!

The love and fun a dog can bring to your family should outweigh the extra hoovering, but if you think it (and the training - it's an on-going thing, even after puppyhood) might become a bone of contention (hee) between you and your DH, can you visit friends who have a dog to see what kind of impact it has on their house/lives? Partners who 'grew up with dogs' often remain blissfully unaware of the amount of work their parents shouldered at the time she writes, through gritted teeth.

Shoutymomma · 20/01/2012 21:52

Sighthound. Greyhound, lurcher, whippet. Loving, lazy and bloody gorgeous. Only need shorts bursts of activity- they are sprinters, not long distancers. All they want is a cuddle on a cosy sofa. House proud? Get throws, lots of cheap hand towels for after walks and maybe a Paw Plunger. Just do it... you won't be sorry.

SpaghettiTwirlerAndProud · 20/01/2012 21:53

I second greyhound! We are in the process of adopting one. They are retired young, 2yrs old or thereabouts, they are lazy and sleep a lot, they love lots of cuddles and they only need 2 short walks a day! You can also buy them pyjamas :o

SpaghettiTwirlerAndProud · 20/01/2012 21:54

shouty wtf is a paw plunger?

SpaghettiTwirlerAndProud · 20/01/2012 21:57

Oh I forgot to mention, the majority of greys are extremely gentle and make fantastic family pets for people with young children.

Shoutymomma · 20/01/2012 22:00

SpagT - Paw Plunger is a sort of mug full of bristles. It has a rubber lid with spoke shaped splits in it so you can put a paw inside. You put warm water in, shove paw through the lid, twizzle it round and it comes out clean. I don't have one but bought one as a gift for someone with higher standards of housekeeping than me (not hard).

kittycat68 · 20/01/2012 22:01

MsGee said she wanted a small dog grey hounds and whippets are NOT small dogs. ( although great temperments)

Shoutymomma · 20/01/2012 22:03

When did whippets get big? Ought I measure mine up for a new coat? He fitted his yesterday....

FiveHoursSleep · 20/01/2012 22:07

If you get a lurcher try not to avoid anything with saluki in it. They do not sleep for 23 out of 24 hours.
If you want a pure bred, what about an Italian greyhound?

Shoutymomma · 20/01/2012 22:16

A girlfriend in my village has 2 Italian treys and they are a bit neurotic for my money. I agree about salukis and they can be a bit aloof. A friend of mine has a bedlington/whippet and he's a peach. We had a lurcher girl and now a whippet boy, both a joy to behold.

WyrdMother · 20/01/2012 22:32

wildfig said "Partners who 'grew up with dogs' often remain blissfully unaware of the amount of work their parents shouldered at the time she writes, through gritted teeth."

Ain't that the truth! My DH grew up with dogs, I didn't, of the two of us he's been shocked at the sheer hard work involved, that I'd researched but I left choice of breed to him as I thought he knew what he was about, as a result we have dog that is really too big for our small house (though dearly loved) so my advice, (basically what I would do if we were doing this again), is:

  • research breeds carefully and make a shortlist, even if you don't stick to it it gives you a place to start
  • visit rescue kennels (I reccomend the RSPCA and Dogs Trust, they were very helpful to us) and talk to the staff.
  • Get some books on dog training and I'd also reccomend Colin Tennant's "Breaking bad habits in dogs" because he really explains how Dogs think but I'm sure most dog books would cover it.
  • Consider having a crate, it can speed up house training and gives you somewhere safe to leave pup when you do have to go out.
  • Check out prices of food, vets bills etc and see if your budget can stand it (castration plus small operation to repair a birth defect that might affect our dogs health just cost £315 but he's big and size does make a difference).
  • Clear your calender for at least the first couple of weeks you will have the dog, especially a puppy as I was taking ours out every hour and a half to start with.
  • Accept that you might have to relax your housekeeping a little, especially in the early days.

Finally our pup was very nippy and had razor blade puppy teeth, plus he still hurtles about like a loon on a regular basis. I've assumed that that's just what puppies do and don't know how much breed would change that so I'd get advice regarding your daughters nervousness. I ended up as the middle man in the rehoming of a kitten that an aquaintence had got to try and get her daughter over her severe fear of animals, (thankfully my mil is a fosterer for the Cats Protection League and was happy to take him on) it was an upsetting situation all round, can you introduce your daughter slowly to dogs first?

Anyway, good luck Grin it's hard work but definitely worth it.

Wayoutthere · 20/01/2012 22:55

I have allergies to both cats and dogs. We got a border terrier (this is one of the types noted as anti - allergy dogs). I would still have sneezed etc and took allergy tablets at times. The good news is that I have now built up a tolerance over the year and my dog can lick me without my skin going red!!

I also was house proud but found it hard to keep up to that standard with a dog in the house. Dogs are messy especially if they cast.

We were also advised to get a pup as we have a son. Means they can bond and grow up together.

I love my border terrier to bits, she is loving and brilliant with kids, but I don't think it would suit you. They need 2 and half miles a day (at least). Hyper as anything, always wanting to play and does get bored easy. Hard work at times but worth it Smile

There will be a dog to suit your lifestyle, so good luck.

SpaghettiTwirlerAndProud · 21/01/2012 01:53

Well I tried :(

A whippet then? :o

TheCatInTheHairnet · 21/01/2012 01:59

Welcome to Mumsnets The Doghouse. The only place on the entire planet where the answer is always Rescue, Greyhound, or Whippet.

She asked for small breed ideas!!

Janey1387 · 21/01/2012 02:43

Here is a article you might find useful habee.hubpages.com/hub/Lazy-Dog-Breeds . I know they aren't the most graceful of dogs but for your household I would definitely recommend a English bulldog or a pug , they don't need a lot of exercise and are generally OK just running around the back garden or a 15 - 20 minute walk . Both of these breeds nap for large parts of the day and even when not sleeping they are happy to just chill out lol . Bulldogs are very loving with children and make friends with pretty much everyone and everything! It will entertain your DH for ages on end , they're such goofy dogs she wont be intimidated at all. The best part is they are low maintenance in terms of grooming , just a brush and a bath now and again . You can go to www.bulldogrescue.org.uk/ , they have all kinds of resources for first time owners like training tips and advice etc and have dogs and pups available everywhere . I plan on getting one myself when DS arrives in a few months :)

Janey1387 · 21/01/2012 02:47
  • oops I meant it will entertain your DD not DH , but him too I guess lol
TheCatInTheHairnet · 21/01/2012 03:57

Bulldogs, IMO, are the Best Dogs Ever.

TheCatInTheHairnet · 21/01/2012 04:03

Although I will add that bulldogs are waaaay more intelligent and active than their reputation suggests. Their big fat mouths can do a lot of damage to a sofa if they are allowed to just sit and wallow. Mine needs a good hour off leash walk each day just to start with.

nannipigg · 21/01/2012 05:03

I would say a Whippet too! they are extremely gentle, love the companionship of humans and don't need huge walks, they just need them everyday.
But dogs are very tying and lots of hard work so you have to be sure and committed to training/looking after all there needs before you jump in!
Borrow a book from the Library or look on the Web for dog traits and I personally would go for a rescue dog, they are so loving and there are so many needing homes

MsGee · 21/01/2012 08:26

Wow!! Thanks for all the responses - lots of information.

DH is mightily impressed with the whippet suggestions as his folks always had whippets (and ferrets - but that is another story!). He is keen on the idea of a small whippet but suspect DD and I will lean towards other breeds!

Right, research to begin... Will look into finances but that should be ok. Will come up with a short list and come back to you all if that's ok?

Thanks also for not saying we are bonkers (as my family are doing!). All they tell me is that dogs are a commitment ... As if i don't already have a child. I work freelance so shifting work for puppy care no trouble either.

Am quite excited - would be lovely to have some company at home when DD at nursery / school Smile

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Scuttlebutter · 21/01/2012 09:44

It sounds lovely that you're thinking about getting a dog. Grin A few points. Allergies - NO such thing as a NON shedding dog - just a dog who sheds less than others. Sometimes the allergy is to the dander rather than the hair so you need to find out what triggers you/allergic person. Try to be around/handle a variety of dogs (both long and short haired) to see what triggers you. What would be utterly heartbreaking for all of you is to get a dog and then find that allergies mean you can't keep it. Sadly, this does happen quite often.

Housekeeping - if you are really, really houseproud please don't get a dog. Even a small dog will shed, occasionally wee, poo, vomit, bleed, walk in odd things, roll in odd things, smell, fart etc. Could you be prepared to think of dog hair as a condiment? Please visit some dog owning friends and think about their standards of housekeeping and what you'd be happy with. Not just the house, but the garden and the car too. Car will get dog hair, mud, smells etc. Garden will have plants wee-ed over, holes dug, small plants trampled, poo deposited. It is possible to have a clean tidy house with a dog (or three) but does take a lot more work, especially at this time of the year, when everything outside is wet and muddy.

One of the things you could do before getting the dog, is to go along to some doggy events and chat to people. Most areas have regular events like fun dog shows, walks, open days for charities, etc etc - go to events, have fun, (most important!) and chat to people about how dogs fit with their family/lifestyle, and any other questions. The more time you spend in this type of preparation, research, the better informed you will be, and the more likely to get a dog that is right for your family. Have a think also about once your dog arrives and what you will be doing with it, as a family. Taking it to basic obedience classes (and puppy classes if you get a pup) is essential, but there are lots of other fun things, like Cani X, agility, flyball, obedience classes, geocaching etc. Most of these activities will have clubs/groups locally and it's worth going along to find out more.

With regard to the small dog/big dog thing, it's surprising that the impact of the dog when you live with it is not so much to do with size as temperament. A very small JRT with no "off switch" Grin will make its presence felt far, far more than a larger, but very quiet greyhound who just likes to snooze on the sofa.

Lastly, before you get ANY breed of dog take a look at this terrific website - Dog Breed Health here. It gives an honest look at the health issues, health testing and diseases associated with particular breeds. It's a mine of information, that every potential dog owner should consider when thinking about breeds. One of the reasons why I regularly recommend greyhounds for instance is that they are generally v healthy and can be expected to live to their mid teens. Their COI score is 0.7% (score for inbreeding) - for a bulldog (as recommended upthread) the score would be 9.9% and the list of illnesses/welfare problems associated with the breed is long and depressing.

Good luck! Smile

toboldlygo · 21/01/2012 09:54

Am I missing something? Whippets are small dogs. Rescues have small dogs. Greyhounds are admittedly large but have the mysterious property of not taking up very much room at all. There is a reason they are so often recommended in this kind of situation and that is because they are probably the most non-doggy dog you can get - they eschew mud, rain and excessive exercise, don't shed a great deal, I've never known one to pull on the lead, are generally sleepy, gently affectionate and graceful.

I have extremely high maintenance dogs and I can see the appeal, when I'm an old fart I will have a house full of the buggers and a quiet life.

MsGee · 21/01/2012 09:55

Thanks Scuttle. We sadly don't have friends with dogs but will try to get to some doggy events and would def need to assess for allergies. We researched low allergy cats but a short visit proved that I still had a strong reaction to them.

I think we could get past the house proud thing. There is really only one room downstairs that is carpeted and most of the house has been covered in DD wee and poo at some point!

Also take the point in size / impact. We are quite self aware in terms of our lifestyle and what we could offer a dog and how he'd fit in.

DD not impressed with whippet pics! Kennel club questionnaire recommended havanese / Maltese / bolognese - so will look into these more. I'm happy to get an older pup (benefit of already trained and personality known!) so will look into rescue places. We can't get a dog until after March (overseas hol booked) so lots of time. I'm also going to look at costs involved but am guessing we need a couple of k per annum and up front though?

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