American Bulldog rehome

[ElsieMc]

My DD bought an American bulldog pup a few months ago and has now had to move house and the new Landlord won't allow her to have the dog.

I did tell her that the breed was demanding and that she would have to spend a lot of time with her, but she now also has a full time job.

She put her up for re-home on facebook, but the family who took her readvertised her 48 hours later. Although I don't think my DD should have got the dog in the first place, she contacted the family and asked them to return her to her which they have done but of course leaves her in difficulties.

The dog is a bitch and is far too exuberant, jumping all over the place and untrained. She is very greedy. She is however good off the lead and will walk with the family. Personally I wouldn't let her go to a home with young children as though not aggressive, she is so big she could easily hurt a child.
It is such a shame for her, what can I do to help as I would hate her to fall into the wrong hands?

you could try these people www.facebook.com/groups/dunroamin/

have you tried breed rescue?

www.americanbulldogrescue.co.uk/

You need to contact local no-kill rescues and pray that they have room. Also these people might help.

For the love of all things good and holy please implore your dd to start using her common sense and do not under any circumstances advertise the dog on FB or Gumtree et al ever again. No matter what. I'd rather you drive the poor pup to me if it comes down to it and I will do my best to clean up your idiotic and irresponible daughter's mess for you.

Of course she is exuberant she is a bull breed pup they are meant to be joyful and playful.

Thanks for your responses. Please don't blame me for this DooinMeCleanin, I share your views but am just trying to do the best thing for the dog. She just needs time, training, exercise and love. I really welcome positive, non-judgemental suggestions.

I did not blame you. I blamed your daughter. Threads like this make me very angry. Your daughter went and took on a puppy without a second thought and then gave it away just as easily when things got harder than she expected. Rescue is full to bursting all around the country. People who have genuine reason like the op on yesterdays thread struggling to find places for their very much loved pooches because of too many people like your daughter. I sincerely hope she has gotten it from both barrels by your good self, op. If she were mine I'd be kicking her sorry backside all the way down to the pound to show her just what happens when people take on pets without thinking.

People need to think carefully before committing to any pet and they need to understand that commitment is for life. Not until they fancy moving or find a new job.

Bullies in need would be the best place to start. Where in the country are you?

The others above have given advice, please contact ALL the bullbreed rescue, Iron Mountain, too.

I cant even continue with this thread at the moment.

Think this one will have to be 'hidden'

Sorry you are very angry -and also aggressive. I won't be "kicking" anyone. Hectoring, sanctimonious attitudes certainly don't help the poor dog but demotivate and frighten off those who genuinely want to help. Whatever the rights and wrongs, it's clear she needs a re-home and this was what I wanted to focus upon.

Where in the country are you based? People would be able to suggest local rescue centers if we knew where is local to you.

As I said Bullies in Need is a great place to start. If you are near them you could also try here. They do a lot to help bull breeds, as far as I know they're always full, but it's worth asking.

What you describe as "hectoring" and "sanctimonious" are people who are rescue volunteers describing the reality to you.

Please tell us where in the UK your DD is, so we can suggest more local rescues or you've been given some excellent advice already.

Then maybe they need to realise aggressive condemnation and suggestions of kicking are not excellent advice and hardly the way forward when someone has asked for help in a difficult situation not of their own making. I won't respond further other than to say that a re-focus on what is best for the animal rather than the venting anger may be more appropriate in future as it alienates rather than assists.

ElsieMc, please don't be offended by DooinMeCleanin - she does a huge amount for dogs, and their owners. I think if you look a little more deeply you would find out that practically everyone in this section of MN focuses on the animal. If you were involved with animal rescue perhaps you would be more angry at your daughter. It is your dd who has behaved very badly, not Dooin. The dog is very lucky to still be alive after being passed onto god knows who on FB. I hope you find some help for this poor dog.

When you've stopped telling Dooin off for expressing her opinion, which is based on cold, hard facts and dead dogs, please take a look at what she is saying because she is absolutely and entirely RIGHT and it NEEDS saying so that we can all limit the amount of owners like your daughter. I should know, I'm one of those who picks up the pieces of irresponsible purchases of dogs and equally irresponsible rehoming when the owner no longer wants the dog. I find the rescue places, I arrange the transport to get them there and I foster too. I also pick up the bills for many of the dogs I save from being killed and I pick up the shit because I help out in rescue kennels too. I get my hands dirty and I put my money where my mouth is... so I don't advise that you try to call me sanctimonious because I agree with Dooin.

BTW, ScuttleButter is involved in rescue too...

Dooin has suggested Bullies In Need as a good starting point. American Bulldog Rescue, which has also been mentioned, is another excellent idea, as is Iron Mountain. The owner of Doris Banham, to which Dooin also linked, is known to me. At the moment she has 6 dogs on death row in a pound which she is desperate to place before they die. She will do her utmost to help nonetheless. Her name is Trudie James, I suggest that your DD calls her ASAP.

Please tell your DD to get the pup spayed if she is of an age to be as that will make rescue FAR more likely to be willing to take her and tell your DD NEVER to advertise her on Facebook again... or Free ads, Gumtree, shop windows etc... that is the quickest fucking way to a puppy farm or to a dog fighting ring imaginable.

Besides that, who knows what the new owners are like. Your DD won't homecheck them, she won't obtain vet references from them, she won't demand proof that they own their home or that their Landlord allows them to have a dog and she sure as fuck isn't able to take the dog back if the next owner doesn't want her... which means that the dog could well end up in cruel, illegal or dangerous hands, on the streets, in the pound and therefore dead after 7 days or just dead on the vet's table if the new owner can be arsed to spend over £100 having her killed.

NB If the suggestions above draw no results:

A. Don't be surprised, rescue is overflowing with unwanted dogs like this one.

B. Please come back to me and I will search further afield amongst my rescue contacts country-wide.

c. Please be aware that at all times anything I do or any advice I offer is in the interests of dog welfare regardless of my personal opinions, good or bad, of any humans involved. I work for the DOG, not the current owner, not the prospective owner, not for any particular rescue and not for myself.

FGS do not let her advertise on facebook or gumtree. That poor dog is guaranteed to end up on a puppy farm or fighting.

I have an american bull and I also have 3dc. Youngest is 10mo. There is no reason she should not go to a family with dc.

She just needs to be with someone who have the sense and time to train her properly.

Where about are you?

Obviously I did not mean to actually kick her all the way to the pound. That would be far too tiring and you'd probably be arrested half way there

Op, you are a big girl, I have not called you any names. I have offered help.

I am sorry if you found my tone harsh. This is something I feel strongly about and with good reason. Plus I am rather partial to bull breeds.

You have caught me on a bad day. Everyone has nits and they will not fucking die. I found a flea on my terrier but cannot for the life of me remember where I put the flea drops, so I am going to have to order more even though I know I have some. I am pissed off and itchy.

I would like to give you enough credit to believe that you are adult enough to not let a few words on a screen to stop you helping this dog and potentially saving its life.

"Everyone has nits and they will not fucking die."

What won't? The nits or the family? :o

You'll find the flea drops precisely one minute and thirty seconds after you have clicked "Confirm Payment Details" on the webpage of PetMeds.

Guaranteed.

Cos I did.

DogsBeastFriend - aggressive, threatening foul mouthed post. You are quite right of course my DD has behaved very badly indeed. I'm sure no-one would dare call you sanctimonious, but would they want to come to you for help?

Mumatron - Thank you. I have spoken to some kind owners of american bulls before I came here who have spent time training and yes, they have confirmed once trained are good with children. I wanted to err on the side of caution.

On that note, I will leave and not enrage DogsBeastFriend and Dooinmecleanin any further and of course feel utterly chastened.

Elsie - if you don't have any luck getting a rescue place then PLEASE come back here. The posters you don't like are the MOST likely people to find a place suitable to the dog.

do come back here, and also read this thread. www.mumsnet.com/Talk/the_doghouse/1331755-Need-to-rehome-my-dog

Threatening?

WHERE?

Aggressive? That may have been how it was received but it was not how it left me. It was HONEST. And informative, potentially helpful if you care to follow the advice.

Foul mouthed? Yes. I was and I can be, along with a large number of other posters across all the topics on MN. In this case it's with good reason, not least that I was still up at 2 o'clock this morning dealing with issues surrounding the rescue of the dog which misdee linked to above, having spent almost all day identifying and arranging the rescue place and I'm tired... physically tired, emotionally tired and tired too of the number of ElsieMc's daughters I encounter.

So yes, it might be a foul mouth but I put my money where it is. Always happy to work for the dog but I will NOT be censored just because people don't like the truth.

surely for the dog's sake you would stay in case someone could help you find the best home/rescue for the dog? surely, you are not going to flounce when a dog's life/welfare is at stake?

btw dogbeastfriend does have lots of posters turn to her for help and has helped quite a few people in the doghouse find new homes for their dogs. i think when you see dogs without homes, dogs being killed, dogs being used for fighting, dogs in puppy farms, the pitiful sight of breeding bitches in puppy farms, etc on a regular basis then it is natural to feel pissed off with what your daughter has done. it was extremely irresponsible of her to buy a puppy and the rescuers work unpaid every day of the year to pick up the pieces

tbh you come across as immature too if you really are going to flounce when this dog needs a home. take the flak and do the best for the dog

Another thing - had you not called Dooin "hectoring", "sanctimonious" and "aggressive" to start with when she was doing nothing but pointing out the truth AND offering rescue suggestions I wouldn't have responded in her defence as I did.

Elsie, get down off your cross. We need the wood.

People on this thread have provided you with constructive suggestions for specialist rescues and have asked for further information to help your daughter's dog. In spite of our views on your daughter (which initially you said you shared) we have all tried to suggest specialist rescues or to seek further information to allow us to help this dog further.

Dooin and DBF have been honest and straight with you. Nobody has been threatening or aggressive, and I certainly haven't seen any hectoring. You asked for help and you have been given it.

Hmmf, knew I should have stuffed my face with kids halloween chocolate and not came back to this thread.

OP - take the advice, it is in the best interests of the DOG not your daughter. Maybe you should be having a chat with your daughter about being a responsible adult.

I feel sorry for the dog, angry with the OPs DD and with the OP herself for her attack upon Dooin, not to mention the accusation that I was threatening her ... but nonetheless I'm still chuckling at ScuttleButter's "Elsie, get down off your cross. We need the wood". :o

That's a new one to me. A Welsh-ism, ScuttleButter? :)