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Dog has stopped weeing in the garden

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feesh · 31/10/2011 09:05

Can anyone advise what to do, if anything?

Our dog has her own small side garden, which is gated off from the main garden. She has access to it from her own "bedroom" which has a dog door. (I know this sounds like the most spoilt dog in the world - we live in the Middle East and the house layout allows us to do this!).

Since she was a puppy, she has always taken herself outside into "her" garden for a wee if she needs to - obviously we trained her to do this as part of her housetraining. I consider her to be fully housetrained now, as we haven't had any accidents for at least 4 months and she is now 8-9 months old.

The gardener watered the soil in "her" garden last week - he doesn't normally do this as it is bare soil and all the plants are dead anyway since she dug them all up - and she seemed to have quite a strong aversion to walking on the wet soil! I know this sounds bonkers to anyone living in England, but she has only ever experienced dry, sandy soil in her short life, and she's never felt or experienced rain! She might also have been bitten out there, as she has a couple of insect bites on her muzzle. Either way, something has happened to make her wary of "her" garden in the past few days.

So now she will hold her wees and poos in for HOURS, until she leaves the house for a walk. I tested her on Friday night and it was a good 15 hours before she finally went for a wee in her own garden, and only then it was because my husband sat outside with her for a good hour, clicker training her to walk on the wet soil again (by shaping her behaviour in the same way you do the '101 things to do with a box' game) and eventually she went for a wee.

Yesterday, she took herself out into her garden for a wee in the morning, so I rushed out there and heaped lots of praise on her (I didn't have any treats to hand unfortunately) and brought her back in for her breakfast. She wouldn't go for a wee out there before bed last night, so I gave in and took her into the main "human" garden on a lead, where she happily peed.

But this morning, we're back to square one again. She has been outside, but she won't step on the soil (even though it's dry) and she was squeaking earlier because she needed a wee but didn't know what to do. In the end, I took her for her morning walk and she did the BIGGEST wee ever!

I'm a bit annoyed because our life was so much easier when she would take herself off for a wee!! Now I would be worried to leave her home alone, in case she got so desperate for a wee that she chose to wee inside instead of in the 'scary' garden. Also I am concerned that by holding it in for hours, she is going to get infections or worse.

I don't know for sure that this is linked to the soil being wet - it could be something else - she is quite a nervy rescue dog and is also a little feaful of going outside in the dark. It could also be that because this is the first cool week we've had in months, I am starting to spend a lot of time in the main "human" garden, and she is out there with me quite a lot - as a result she doesn't seem to like her own garden any more! I control her access to the main garden - i.e. she only goes in it on a lead - as she is quite prone to digging, which is the whole reason we gave her her own garden in the first place.

Shall I just ignore all of this (and let her hold it in until we go out for walks), or carry on clicker training her to be comfortable on her own soil again?

I don't want to go back to the days before we got the dog door, when she used to ask to go out for wees in the main garden - that was a massive pain, which she used to manipulate to her advantage so I would take her outside more often than she really needed to go. She can't be allowed access to the main garden unsupervised, as she brings so much dirt back into the house and she also digs up and destroys all the plants.

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bumpybecky · 31/10/2011 09:57

if it were me I'd try and make it much more fun to be in her garden, to try and encourage her to get sued to it again

so I'd spend time out there with her, play with her toys, just sit out there (maybe read a book or whatever) while she potters about, feed her out there (maybe one of those balls that needs to be moved about to drop food), hide treats out there for her to find

hopefully if she starts to enjoy her time out there she'll get the hang of it again :)

bumpybecky · 31/10/2011 09:58

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feesh · 31/10/2011 10:55

Thanks Bb - that's kind of what I was thinking. BUT if it's a small garden, and I start feeding her in it, would that put her off weeing and pooing out there? Because dogs don't like to soil places they eat in?

Also it's not a pleasant place to sit in this heat - all the stale wee stinks and it's full of flies so I don't really fancy sitting out there myself! I had assumed dogs were immune to those sorts of worries, but do correct me if I'm wrong.

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feesh · 31/10/2011 10:57

Maybe I should just give the soil a good digging over and hose it all down to get rid of any lingering wee smells and maybe put some of her toys out there....

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DejaWho · 31/10/2011 12:42

Has something been IN the garden? Mine went on pee-strike last week after the ferretty visitor - the place just smelt TOOOOOOO fabulously interesting.

www.petsathome.com/shop/pee-post-for-dogs-and-puppies-by-simple-solution-15452 might be of interest - pheremone-scented "target" for leg waving and widdling?

feesh · 31/10/2011 15:13

There is already wee on the ground so I shouldn't need to resort to pheromones. I'm not sure if something has been in the garden - its unlikely though. I tell you what IS weird - I caught her earlier un-burying and eating a big chunk of meat out there. I'm not sure where it came from, unless it's Saturday's (sirloin steak) breakfast which had been rotting nicely in the soil since we gave it to her....!!!

Do you think this is why she wouldnt wee out there? Because she had a stash of buried treasure?

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feesh · 02/11/2011 05:35

Sorry to bring this up again. But last night we were treated to a wee and a poo in our kitchen.

I am GUTTED - I am so worried this means I have to start housetraining again from scratch.

She was taken out for a wee last thing, but now I think of it, she hadn't had a poo since her walk in the morning. She did cry a bit when she went to bed, as she sometimes does, but we ignored it. Now I think it was because she needed a poo.

I thought we were doing OK - I had been treating her for weeing in "her" garden, and she had started going out there for wees again on her own, but I totally forgot about the poos. We can't take her out for an evening walk, as we are not allowed to walk dogs on our compound, so I HAVE to get her back to a point where she is happy to poo outside on her own and will be proactive about going out there to relieve herself.

I feel so down today - I have the flu anyway, so I just didn't need this :(

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feesh · 02/11/2011 07:17

I'm sure it's to do with her new habit of burying her meals in the garden. I've been sat outside here all morning and I've witnessed her bring her breakfast out and bury it. Now she is getting agitated trying to find a wee spot away from any food burials - I think the burial sites pretty much cover the entire garden.

She is on a raw food diet and we give her meat frozen so I think I need to start defrosting it so she can eat it immediately.

Also she's not allowed into the main bit of the house in the mornings until all the breakfast has gone - I think she's cottoned onto this and is hiding her breakfast instead of eating it do she can get out quicker. Not sure what to do about this.

As I write, she is VERY agitated trying to find a poo spot, to the point where she was trying to leap up a 20 foot concrete wall to get out of the garden. Quite upsetting to watch. Eventually she just this second went for a poo but was clearly not happy about her chosen spot.

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daisydotandgertie · 02/11/2011 07:28

Sounds as though she could be coming into season for the first time. It really upsets some dogs.

Has she already had her first season?

feesh · 02/11/2011 11:00

No she was spayed at 5 and a half months as we were going away and I wanted it doing before she went into boarding kennels. We have an excellent Brit vet and I'm confident it was done properly.

She has a spot of diarrhoea this morning, that's why she is getting so worked up before she poos.

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daisydotandgertie · 02/11/2011 11:17

OK.

Sounds as though it's to do with the food burying then. I wouldn't think she'd be at all keen to wee or poo on her food stores which might account for it.

Does she not need to eat the food you give her? Is she burying because it's an excess of food?

If dogs are hungry - they eat food, no matter how it's presented. Has her apetite decreased? Or does she have an excess?

I certainly wouldn't be encouraging food burial in the UK - let alone somewhere hot. It's going to stink before very long at all. And encourage all sorts of vermin.

What breed is she?

feesh · 02/11/2011 12:30

She is a saluki mix which looks a lot like a retriever. I think there is some GSD in there as well. She is nervy and slightly neurotic like a saluki, and very guardy like a GSD, also very intelligent like a GSD. Needs lots of mental stimulation, feel like she outwits me sometimes.

The burying thing is very saluki - they love digging.

I am going to starve her for 24 hrs, but then start feeding her inside and whatever hasn't been eaten after 15 mins gets removed. That should stop it.

Meanwhile, her having the squits is giving me lots of opportunity to praise her for going outside - I am also giving her a small amount of primula cheese spread to reward her, hope this doesn't add to the upset tummy.

Not sure about tonight - she's happier/more secure in herself in the kitchen but it has no garden access if she needs the loo.

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feesh · 11/11/2011 19:02

Just to update, we have solved this problem now by (a) stopping her from taking her food outside by locking the dog door while she is eating - she has it in her "bedroom" for 15 mins and if she doesn't eat it in that time, it gets taken away

and (b) we've been spending more time outside with her in her garden, so she seems much happier being out there now and more relaxed about going outside by herself.

Problem solved :)

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