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I did an awful thing - feel so bad and not sure I should be admitting this but..

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Spamspamspam · 24/05/2011 10:54

It was a instant reaction, I couldn't stop it and now I feel awful, awful

We were out in the woods for the first time today, me, DH and Maggie. To date we have taken her to the park where she has met another dog, I have also taken her on a walk where she has met other dogs by confirming with owner she can and then they have introduced themselves.

We were wandering along, Maggie on lead I was on one side of the path, husband on the other but the path was quite narrow and my husband just said my name fairly urgently, I turned to see a huge bouncy bear like dog (actually his name was bear) right at my ankles in pounce mode ready to jump on Maggie, Maggie hadn't seen him either and I just pulled the lead up and pulled her off the floor Shock and up into my arms, the dog was jumping up at me in an excited frenzy trying to get to Maggie and the owner did say oh he is friendly so I put Maggie on the floor, they said hello, bounced around the path a bit wanting to play but then we decided it was time to part company as the other dog was huge compared to Maggie and getting really boisterous, it was only a year old. However we couldn't actually go because woman was on a horse, the dog had no lead and wasn't listening to a word she said - she told me to tell him off but I was just trying to concentrate on Maggie. Everytime I picked Maggie up the dog would be jumping up at me which frightens me, let alone Maggie. I am not good with dogs hurling themselves at me at all and if I had been with my daughter she would have been terrified. Eventually my husband took Maggie and I had to drag the dog away from him and walk it behind the horse until it eventually realised the game was up and it had to follow it's owner. Thank god my husband was there as I don't think she would have got it to leave us alone otherwise.

Thankfully Maggie is fine by her "hanging" as my husband is now referring to it. She didn't yelp or make a choking noise (which she manages to do to herself by pulling on the lead) she is fine in herself and had a lovely walk after that event. I just went into protective mode and didn't think at all..

I was quite annoyed but husband says oh well she probably just expects that if she is riding on a public bridleway she can behave as she likes.

I ride and I have never ever taken this attitude, I allways warn people I am coming because a small child, or a dog suddenly startled by a horse is not good and I don't want my horse to get a fright if a dog suddenly starts yapping or a child screams. She gave no warning, my husband only just saw her she was right up close when he turned and then said my name. She must have seen us in the distance and could easily have done what I do on a horse and stop my horse, get the person's attention and everyone walks calmly by! Our puppy was on a lead, she is very obviously a puppy and a small breed anyway, I would have thought that it was only common courtesy to give some warning that a great big horse and a big bouncy woolly dog 10 times the size of your puppy were heading your way - or maybe not? Am I in the wrong, should I not be out in those places with Maggie?

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Vallhala · 24/05/2011 11:18

No you're not wrong, the rider was an ass though. If the dog doesn't take any notice he shouldn't be out with the horse at all, friendly or not, for his own safety. Bloody idiot rider! He sounds like a nice dog, as does Maggie, but that ain't the point!

I know that I can walk my younger Shep to heel near other dogs (and probably horses but not worth the risk). Not least he has instant recall. My Lab is old and stubborn less instantly biddable and I prefer to lead him up, my elder GSD can be nervous so again goes on a lead. I take the same attitude to people coming towards me on country footpaths etc - WhiteGSD and Lab go on the lead, Black&TanGSD comes to heel or sits/stays til the people have passed. Not fecking rocket science is it!

I'm sure that you don't make a habit of yanking Maggie off the floor and that she'll be none the worse for it. All I WOULD say - bearing in mind that I'm NOT a trainer - is that I've seen some very anxious, yappy, snappy small dogs held in arms when my big dogs amble past bemused and I can't help wondering whether the being in arms makes them worse rather than protects them.

(Makes me laugh too as big WhiteGSD used to play out with 2 Shiba Inus when in rescue and my dogs live with cats, one of whom normally comes on our evening walk with us!).

Rootatoot · 24/05/2011 11:19

You're not in the wrong at all. You are free to go where you like but it does put you off some places a bit when these things happen. My border terrier is not great with some other dogs so I tend to have to judge how the situation is going to go (best on lead or off lead etc). However, if I were in your position it would have been a whole lot worse, as my BT detests horses and goes WILD at the sight of them.

If I'm in a horsey area I do keep a look out and I get him on the lead/out of way as quick as poss if I see one. Trouble is, some horse riders, as you have discovered, just seem to think they own the place and don't give any thought to safety of everyone around (including them). I have had two horses at almost full gallop come belting past me and dog before, when I only JUST had time to grab him. They couldn't care less.

She was clearly just a thoughtless dog/horse owner. I can't stand people who don't take responsibility for their animals. The 'he's friendly' excuse when they're leaping all over you is just unacceptable. I had a massive labrador nearly knock me to the ground 'being friendly' when my BT was a pup. Now not a big problem at that time, as I'm not scared of dogs and could handle it but if that was a child/old person or me in my current 27week pregnant state....not good!

Obviously yanking your poor little pup up by the lead wasn't ideal but I'm sure I've reacted like that once just without thinking in a bad situation.

Just put it down to experience but I sympathise. How ANNOYING!

midori1999 · 24/05/2011 11:47

I doubt it did her any harm, just keep an eye on her. The rider was absolutely in the wrong, what a twit!

It is probably best to try and avoid picking Maggie up even if you think she might get a bit squished though, it can make small dogs get very nervous as picking them up seems to reinforce there is something to be worried about.

They are tougher than you think. My friend had a Pug puppy and an adult St. Bernard and although their play got really rough at times, the Pug was never hurt.

Spamspamspam · 24/05/2011 11:55

Thanks for your replies and not making me feel even worse, Maggie seems fine but I will definately keep an eye on her, I think she is wondering why I keep saying sorry and nuzzling her :)

I will definately take on board the not picking her up thing. I have done it twice once today and once when she was yapping at a muzzled dog and it was easier than dragging her along the road.

She met a lovely dog today, owner was fantastic and left one of her not so trustworthy dogs with her walking partner and bought her dog over to meet Maggie so it wasn't all a bad experience.

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Rootatoot · 24/05/2011 12:26

That sounds good, re playing with a nice dog. I think it's all about building confidence up. Little dogs (like my little bruiser) can be fearful and mine certainly has a bit of a nervous agression problem. Unfortunately, we didn't get him till he was a few months old and I think he had issues from before then possibly, from lack of socialising well.

We have a lovely common not too far away which I really like taking him too. He always meets LOTS of dogs on that walk and I can see them coming, so any that I think might be an issue I can avoid, but then he can also have some fun with others and it builds his confidence up.

I've had quite a few encounters with rubbish owners, and I'm not beyond telling them what for if it's really out of order, so I wouldn't worry! ;)

QuietTiger · 24/05/2011 14:10

Speaking as a rider who goes out with her dog(s) (so have been in the other owners shoes IYSWIM) I would say you are absolutely, totally not in the wrong and the rider should never have had her dog with her as he was not under control. Control in this instance (i.e. rider on horse with a dog) is "instant" obedience from a voice command, even if that is just a "Sit and leave".

Spamspamspam · 24/05/2011 14:55

QT - I do agree with you, DH is not as outdoorsey as me and doesn't seem to get the etiquette that should be applied in this situation which is frustrating! Although I have never ridden with a dog of mine I have ridden with people whose dogs come along and they are allways 100% under control. Thankfully her horse was an absolute saint adding a spooking horse into the mix would have been a bloomin nightmare.

I am taking Maggie to puppy class tomorrow and I promise I won't pick her up once - she can get on with it and I will "grow a pair" :)

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