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POSSIBLE STRAY DOG - any advice please!

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redvelvetmooncupcake · 23/04/2011 17:58

There's a dog wandering around our estate. He seems lost and is a bit scruffy-looking so I'm concerned someone has chucked him out. He was in our garden before and seems reasonably amiable but he is an entire male and a very big bull breed x. He looks quite old and skinny. I did manage to catch him and surprise surprise he's got no ID on his collar, but I've got no lead so had to let him go again. He trotted away in a fairly purposeful manner so I thought he'd gone home but he's been back again and gone the other way this time. Asked a few people but nobody recognises him or has heard about a lost dog. Not sure what to do. I've looked up the number for the dog warden and will ring them but not sure if they do much these days and it's a bank holiday. (I'm not taking him in, house is tiny and I'm not risking a massive dog I don't know with my baby or my cat) Any ideas? I'm in West Yorks.

TIA doggy folk

(copied and pasted from my other thread with a crap title!)

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Al1son · 23/04/2011 18:19

When we were in the same position the police couldn't come and get him but they asked us to take him to a reasonably local station with a kennels. It might be worth a call to your local police station to see if they have anyone who could take him.

Vallhala · 23/04/2011 19:20

The Police no longer take in strays or have anything to do with them EXCEPT those which come under the Dangerous Dogs Act. All responsibility was handed over to the local councils about 2 years ago.

Long story short, Councils don't HAVE to have an out of hours stray service. Please ring your council and find out if they do. If not, they will give you the option of either taking him yourself to the nearest (usually sole) "reception point" for their county and will advise you of where it is or to take him in yoursef until the dog warden or whoever they have doing that job is back in work. If you took him in you CAN if you wish keep him instead of handing him into the council dog warden but by law you MUST inform the council that you've found him, you MUST keep him for at least 28 days and you MUST endeavour to find his owner and reunite him if possible - but as you say, you are (understandably) unwilling to do that. The other option is to do nothing.

Yes, it's utterly inhumane, potentially dangerous to the public (road accidents and possible aggression) and a fucking disgrace - thank the Labour Government).

If he's a large bull breed and is old he will stand no chance in a pound and will almost certainly be put to sleep as soon as he has been there for the legally demanded 7 days. The pounds in your area are particularly shit and barbaric - Fleet pound in West Yorks admit that they don't even try to find homes or rescue places for GSDs, Rotts, Staffs or other bull breeds or most large breeds but they immediately kill them as soon as the law says they can - ie after 7 days. Springfield, which has just lost it's license and which Fleet has taken over from, were abusing the dogs in their "care" and killed them in huge numbers.

There is another option which is a bit grey when ot comes to law but is the best, most humane and most sensible IMHO although it isn't going to be easy. It's to catch the dog (spare lead, jeans belt?) and, before or after, obtain a place in a NO-KILL rescue for him. That will mean you explaining to them that you're aware of your responsibilities in law but that you're equally aware that he will probably be PTS if he gets taken to the pound and ask them if they can care for him instead of you. If they have a good working relationship with the local council dog warden staff they'll be able to swing it and keep him with them, eventually reoming him if the owner isn't located within 7 days. BUT... rescue places are already like rocking horse droppings and no rescue wants an elderly large bull breed as they know that rehoming him will be virtually impossible and that he will take up a rescue space for a bloody long time whilst being a potential vet bill on legs. (You can thank the "Oh I'd never adopt from rescue/Oh I'd never own a bull breed, they're dangerous" mentality of half the UK population for that).

If you can catch him that would be the best thing you can do... but PLEASE be sure that you are asking for help from RESCUE with a NO-KILL policy and NOT from a pound simply calling itself a rescue.

If you need transport to get the dog anywhere, speak to Suzanne at Yorkshire Animal Ambulance (details online) - she owes me one! Tell her that her rescue contact from Poplar Farm Kennels passed you her way. :) And, get back to me if I can help.

HTH.

kid · 23/04/2011 21:03

Sounds like great advice Vallhala. I hate to see dogs roaming around on their own, it makes me really nervous especially when they are near roads.

Good luck with the dog redvelvetmooncupcake Hope you are able to help him or that his owners are found quickly without any harm coming to him.

kid · 23/04/2011 21:19

redvelvetmooncupcake could you have a look on the doglost website and search your area to see if any dogs have been reported missing in the area? They often include photos of the dog so you could see if it is the dog roaming in your area.

Vallhala · 23/04/2011 21:53

First class advice, kid... I did think of that, honest, but I got carried away and forgot to say it!

I've put a thread on here re asking for some Stickies... if MNHQ agree I think that what to do if you find a stray or lose a dog would be a helpful addition. Whatcha fink?

redvelvetmooncupcake · 24/04/2011 14:16

Thanks so much for that advice, I'm going to save this thread as every time there is a loose dog in the street (fairly frequent round her) I do try and catch it (also going to buy a dog lead!).

This poor old lad has not been seen since teatime yesterday when he trotted past the end of the drive, I was holding baby at the time and by the time I had got her safely corralled and got after him he had disappeared. Hopefully he has gone home, wherever that is, but it does seem odd that nobody recognised him as he was quite a distinctive looking fella (DDB coloured with a thin white blaze on his face, size of an American Bulldog but pitbull sort of head).

I totally agree with you Valhalla (I am excited to post to you, I have read loads of your posts on here and I lurked on Dogchat for years!) that he would be virtually impossible to rehome if he is indeed a stray - his sheer size would put a lot of people off (if he was a Staff my inlaws might take him but he's way too big for them) and he's quite "scary" looking to boot. Could be wrong but would guess from appearance and demeanour that he is about 8 or 9 years old and in the twilight of his time as well.

Should I see him again I will update on what happens. Thanks again to everybody who posted on here or on my other thread xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

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redvelvetmooncupcake · 24/04/2011 14:21

He's not on Doglost :( but maybe he's at home in his basket...[hopeful emoticon]

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redvelvetmooncupcake · 25/04/2011 13:34

While walking the baby this morning I identified my canine friend on the end of a lead right down near the main road, nowhere near where he was yesterday. If When I see him again, I will be catching him, putting him on a lead and returning him.

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Al1son · 25/04/2011 19:42

Nice one!

Poor thing! I hope they don't let him roam near a main road again.

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