A seriously dweeby doggy conundrum. Need an ACME whistle.. which one?

[30andMerkin]

I"ve been using a PAH whistle, which is a pain in the harris thanks to the fact that the pitch changes if the barrel twists, an it's on a stupid metal chain which is FREEZING on my neck.

Dog (Doodle 7mnths), has started ignoring it anyhow, so I'm going to begin Project Infallible Recall (feel free to laugh here...) using liver and a brand new shiney whistle.

Which one do I get? I started asking advice in our local chandlery and got surrounded by a baying mob of men with flat caps and very strong opinions shouting numbers at me....

Acme 210 and a half.

Thanks Kate, Any particular reason why?
google tells me that one's better for spaniels and 211.5 was good for labs.... but I seem to remember that was shouted down by the flat caps!

No reason other than it was recommended to me, and it's got a nice sound

You do realise though that it's all in the training, not the whistle? Your OP just makes it sound a bit like "He's ignoring whistle A, I'm going to move on to a whistle I hope he won't ignore" but if he's learned to ignore whistle A, chances are he'll learn to ignore whistle B unless you're methodical about teaching recall.

That'll do for me !

I do realise it's all in the training. I just think the fact that the pitch changes on my current one every time I get it out of my pocket can't help. A trainer I know has given me a very solid training programme which involves changing the reward, so I thought it was good opportunity to ditch the crap whistle and start with a new one at the same time!

Thanks for your help.

I use a novelty one that I got out of a Christmas cracker a couple of years ago and my gorgeous lab comes back to it every time. It is quite loud .

I use acme 211 and a half .

I have a 7 month lab - repsonds well to it , now and again I have to do some 'refresher' training and up the treats and then business as usual, accept when she is in playful mood and wants to play with other dogs - but once she has had a romp she comes back .

Another 211 and a half (no pea, don't forget the no pea) user here.

Choose your peeps too. After my river recall incident last year I have a distinctive two shorts and a medium peep for recall.